Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

RoryMac · 03-09-2013 05:15PM

Peter Lawwell has been appointed to the board of the SFA, any ideas on what that might mean for Celtic apart from maybe getting a few decisions go our way in future old firm games! :pac:

http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=4535

Dempsey · 03-09-2013 05:21PM

RoryMac wrote: »

Peter Lawwell has been appointed to the board of the SFA, any ideas on what that might mean for Celtic apart from maybe getting a few decisions go our way in future old firm games! :pac:

http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=4535

10 in a row is in the bag now! :pac:

weldoninhio · 03-09-2013 05:23PM

RoryMac wrote: »

Peter Lawwell has been appointed to the board of the SFA, any ideas on what that might mean for Celtic apart from maybe getting a few decisions go our way in future old firm games! :pac:

http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=4535

Can't ever happen, one of the clubs passed away.

premierstone · 03-09-2013 05:37PM

Dempsey wrote: »

You're not setting the bar very high, Long isnt a good striker and certainly not good enough for Celtic.

Long not good enough for Celtic?? Come off it who exactly have we? Our no. one striker a the moment has a record in England of 6 goals in 63 appearances, and Long has scored 75 in 264 games - as you say not exactly prolific but certainly and unquestionably good enough for Celtic.

He has scored against United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Everton among others at club level and Russia, Denamark and England on the intermnational scene if you think we have four even three strikers anywhere near capable of doing that you are very wrong.

Lennonist · 03-09-2013 05:52PM

premierstone wrote: »

Long not good enough for Celtic?? Come off it who exactly have we? Our no. one striker a the moment has a record in England of 6 goals in 63 appearances, and Long has scored 75 in 264 games - as you say not exactly prolific but certainly and unquestionably good enough for Celtic.

He has scored against United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Everton among others at club level and Russia, Denamark and England on the intermnational scene if you think we have four even three strikers anywhere near capable of doing that you are very wrong.

He's one to consider in January if the price is right. He's better than Hull. Why did the deal with Hull fall through?

weldoninhio · 03-09-2013 05:54PM

Lennonist wrote: »

He's one to consider in January if the price is right. He's better than Hull. Why did the deal with Hull fall through?

I think he's Kevin Doyle MkII, Hull fell through because Clarke thought he was getting Lukaku, that didn't materialise so he kept Long.

Dempsey · 03-09-2013 06:39PM

premierstone wrote: »

Long not good enough for Celtic?? Come off it who exactly have we? Our no. one striker a the moment has a record in England of 6 goals in 63 appearances, and Long has scored 75 in 264 games - as you say not exactly prolific but certainly and unquestionably good enough for Celtic.

He has scored against United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and Everton among others at club level and Russia, Denamark and England on the intermnational scene if you think we have four even three strikers anywhere near capable of doing that you are very wrong.

Doing a wikipedia comparison to Stokes spell in England is done by people that dont watch the players and how they play the game. Its abit disingenuous to call Stokes Celtic's no.1 striker when he regularly fails to start the big matches. Long isnt a great finisher and naming out all the clubs he's scored goals against fails to impress when you look at his goalscoring record. I've watched him waste so many chances, big chances, in his career, its not funny anymore.

Steve Clarke clearly doesnt rate him anymore and he's dropped down the pecking order to Victor Anichebe and would have been out of the club to Hull if Lukaku was signed. I dont think he's good enough, especially not for that price

eire4 · 03-09-2013 06:59PM

Didn't get to watching the game myself until last night as I was away. Thought we were brilliant in the first 20-25 minutes. Could easily have had the game done and dusted at that point. But we didn't really create much after that opening spell. Thankfully though Stokes pops up with that great free kick late on to win it. Some moments of magic from Commons on the ball that were great to watch although he had an off day with his shooting boots. Deserved 3 points really as Dundee United never looked like scoring. Ambrose and Van Dijk were solid with Van Dijk in particular outstanding. Man of the match for me from the Dutchman. If he can keep up that level we may well have replaced Wilson with an even better and younger player.
All in all a very good 3 points on the road after such a tough midweek game.

premierstone · 03-09-2013 07:01PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Doing a wikipedia comparison to Stokes spell in England is done by people that dont watch the players and how they play the game. Its abit disingenuous to call Stokes Celtic's no.1 striker when he regularly fails to start the big matches. Long isnt a great finisher and naming out all the clubs he's scored goals against fails to impress when you look at his goalscoring record. I've watched him waste so many chances, big chances, in his career, its not funny anymore.

Steve Clarke clearly doesnt rate him anymore and he's dropped down the pecking order to Victor Anichebe and would have been out of the club to Hull if Lukaku was signed. I dont think he's good enough, especially not for that price

I have seen both play plenty thanks for the condescending quip though!

If Stokes isn't our no. 1 striker who is? He didn't start big games in the past when Lennon just played one up front and we had Hooper.

Long is faster and works harder than Stokes and far better managers than Steve Clark have fancied him so Im not sure what the relevance of that is, Clarke had the chance of bringing in Lukaku instead of course he was going to choose Lukaku over Long, we do not have anyone of the quality of either of these.

RoryMac · 03-09-2013 07:02PM

I think Long would do a good job for Celtic, he'd be an upgrade on Stokes and Balde imo but not by much.

I'd like to see him sign up but not at the expense of our budget and wage structure, if he did join I'd still have him behind Forster, Ledley and Sami as our star man.

Dempsey · 03-09-2013 07:17PM

premierstone wrote: »

I have seen both play plenty thanks for the condescending quip though!

If Stokes isn't our no. 1 striker who is? He didn't start big games in the past when Lennon just played one up front and we had Hooper.

Long is faster and works harder than Stokes and far better managers than Steve Clark have fancied him so Im not sure what the relevance of that is, Clarke had the chance of bringing in Lukaku instead of course he was going to choose Lukaku over Long, we do not have anyone of the quality of either of these.

Hard to know but it wont be Stokes when it comes down to it unless he improves. Calling him no.1 just because Hooper is gone is disingenuous.

Stokes isnt the same type of player. Long is a workhorse forward, dime a dozen in British football. Far better managers than Clarke have fancied him but not enough to put their clubs money where their mouth is. Wanting to sell him altogether shows that Clarke has plans that dont involve Long longterm. I dont see him joining a better club when he does leave, do you?

premierstone · 03-09-2013 07:32PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Hard to know but it wont be Stokes when it comes down to it unless he improves. Calling him no.1 just because Hooper is gone is disingenuous.

Stokes isnt the same type of player. Long is a workhorse forward, dime a dozen in British football. Far better managers than Clarke have fancied him but not enough to put their clubs money where their mouth is. Wanting to sell him altogether shows that Clarke has plans that dont involve Long longterm. I dont see him joining a better club when he does leave, do you?

I don't see how it is disingenuous he is our no.1 striker at the moment how can anyone argue any different??

Steve Coppell, Roy Hodgson, Steve Bruce and Giovanni Trapattoni have achieved just a little more in the game than Steve Clarke and Clarke thought he was going to have Lukaku and Anelka both top drawer players.

Dempsey · 03-09-2013 07:48PM

premierstone wrote: »

I don't see how it is disingenuous he is our no.1 striker at the moment how can anyone argue any different??

Steve Coppell, Roy Hodgson, Steve Bruce and Giovanni Trapattoni have achieved just a little more in the game than Steve Clarke and Clarke thought he was going to have Lukaku and Anelka both top drawer players.

Its a very small window where you can consider him no.1! I'd call it clutching at straws all things considered.

Those managers were/are managing clubs staring at relegation most seasons, all clubs trying to be hard to beat rather than attacking football and requiring a workhorse forward or two. Trappatoni plays Conor Sammon, that shows the lack of quality available to the Irish setup.

Do you really think Celtic need to spend £5m to get that type of player?? I certainly dont.

premierstone · 03-09-2013 07:59PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Its a very small window where you can consider him no.1! I'd call it clutching at straws all things considered.

Those managers were/are managing clubs staring at relegation most seasons, all clubs trying to be hard to beat rather than attacking football and requiring a workhorse forward or two. Trappatoni plays Conor Sammon, that shows the lack of quality available to the Irish setup.

Do you really think Celtic need to spend £5m to get that type of player?? I certainly dont.

We will agree to disagree on this and anyway its completely irrelevant as there was never any chance of Long ever ending up at Celtic, but dude seriously are you really comparing Long with Conor Salmon, now whos clutching at straws?

Dempsey · 03-09-2013 08:02PM

premierstone wrote: »

We will agree to disagree on this and anyway its completely irrelevant as there was never any chance of Long ever ending up at Celtic, but dude seriously are you really comparing Long with Conor Salmon, now whos clutching at straws?

I didnt compare Long to Sammon, try reading my posts properly

blahfckingblah · 03-09-2013 08:10PM

I have absolutely no interest in talking about irish internationals who will never sign for us. the fact of the matter is that we have Stokes and Balde and Pukki and we need to get the most out of them

premierstone · 03-09-2013 08:14PM

Dempsey wrote: »

I didnt compare Long to Sammon, try reading my posts properly

Again bravo with the smart arse comments, maybe you should have bought yourself a sense of humour in the transfer window :rolleyes:

Dempsey · 03-09-2013 08:26PM

premierstone wrote: »

Again bravo with the smart arse comments, maybe you should have bought yourself a sense of humour in the transfer window :rolleyes:

Its not a smart arse comment, I didnt compare Long to Sammon. If you read my post properly, you wouldnt have said

but dude seriously are you really comparing Long with Conor Salmon, now whos clutching at straws?

I've a grand sense of humour btw

premierstone · 03-09-2013 08:31PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Its not a smart arse comment, I didnt compare Long to Sammon. If you read my post properly, you wouldnt have said

I've a grand sense of humour btw

It was a joke :cool:

Dempsey · 03-09-2013 08:36PM

premierstone wrote: »

It was a joke :cool:

A joke intended at my expense, good one! :rolleyes:

premierstone · 03-09-2013 08:41PM

Dempsey wrote: »

A joke intended at my expense, good one! :rolleyes:

Seriously get over yourself, don't worry very little chance of me misreading any future posts from you oh mighty one

blahfckingblah · 03-09-2013 08:47PM

am i going to have to sit in between you two?

Dempsey · 03-09-2013 08:54PM

premierstone wrote: »

Seriously get over yourself, don't worry very little chance of me misreading any future posts from you oh mighty one

LOL, wtf?

blahfckingblah wrote: »

am i going to have to sit in between you two?

Er no

premierstone · 03-09-2013 09:00PM

blahfckingblah wrote: »

am i going to have to sit in between you two?

Nope that's the beauty of the ignore list

Dempsey · 04-09-2013 07:33PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2410611/Celtic-play-2014-Champions-League-qualifiers-Murrayfield--exclusive.html?ico=sport^headlines

EXCLUSIVE: Turfed out! Celtic may have to play 2014 Euro qualifiers at Murrayfield as Scotland prepares for Commonwealths

Next years qualifiers has added hassle for Celtic

Lennonist · 04-09-2013 07:47PM

Dempsey wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2410611/Celtic-play-2014-Champions-League-qualifiers-Murrayfield--exclusive.html?ico=sport^headlines

Next years qualifiers has added hassle for Celtic

Will make little difference. Any team Celtic meet at that stage of the competition is cannon fodder. Just have to keep qualifying year after year 'til we don't have to pre-qualify anymore. Might take about 5 years I'm guessing.

Irishmale0399 · 04-09-2013 09:08PM

They could even take the game to Dublin....the would get a good crowd and I am sure the Irish fans would love it.
Not sure what the rules are on the matter of playing a home game outside your home country, but would be a viable option.

Pudders · 04-09-2013 09:24PM

Stephen Ireland nearly signed on loan. A lucky escape for Celtic.

Dempsey · 04-09-2013 09:43PM

Pudders wrote: »

Stephen Ireland nearly signed on loan. A lucky escape for Celtic.

Wow, desperation!

Lennonist · 04-09-2013 09:46PM

Must be off season or an international break, Pudders is back with the inside info.

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