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delaval · 28-08-2013 06:06AM

15s acre paddock. 18 acres of seed, I agree 12.5 too little.
It got slug pellets at 1kg/acre.
It was sprayed and direct drilled. The photo doesn't do it justice, really good strike when you walk through it.
Needs grazing now to thicken

just do it · 28-08-2013 06:26AM

Great growth considering you were in drought at the time.

vanderbadger · 28-08-2013 06:55AM

parthenaise Char springer and her calf, ai simm! cant remember bull from dovea, sim wouldnt be my cup of tea but he arrived handy enough anyway

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leg wax · 28-08-2013 08:03AM

vanderbadger wrote: »

parthenaise Char springer and her calf, ai simm! cant remember bull from dovea, sim wouldnt be my cup of tea but he arrived handy enough anyway

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she looks like she has a nice amount of milk,she kept her ch looks ,have you many more of them,they were off your bull yes?

bob charles · 28-08-2013 08:07AM

delaval wrote: »

15s acre paddock. 18 acres of seed, I agree 12.5 too little.
It got slug pellets at 1kg/acre.
It was sprayed and direct drilled. The photo doesn't do it justice, really good strike when you walk through it.
Needs grazing now to thicken

What are the boot widths on the aitchison, from the pictures if hard to see a pattern. As usual when I take a picture of a sward it always looks way poorer on camera than in real life. are you sure you dont have them slugs and nipping young seedlings.

vanderbadger · 28-08-2013 08:18AM

leg wax wrote: »

she looks like she has a nice amount of milk,she kept her ch looks ,have you many more of them,they were off your bull yes?

ya off my bull, 2 others i think and 2 heifers calves, none of them would be muscly looking, if they were crossed back wit a blue would they produce a shapey calf?

delaval · 28-08-2013 08:22AM

Sour grass cows refused

Sprayed for seeding

awaywithyou · 28-08-2013 10:22AM

delaval wrote: »

Sour grass cows refused

Sprayed for seeding

take it your wrapping it?

what then for seeding?

leg wax · 28-08-2013 10:30AM

vanderbadger wrote: »

ya off my bull, 2 others i think and 2 heifers calves, none of them would be muscly looking, if they were crossed back wit a blue would they produce a shapey calf?

hard to know,they might have a shapey calf but i dont think a muscley calf, it looks like the ch has to much influence in the mother.

bob charles · 28-08-2013 10:39AM

delaval wrote: »

Sour grass cows refused

Sprayed for seeding

you going dumping it? presume there is plenty of cow crap in it after they being in it for a few hours

As usual im disappointed, a plough based reseed done a month ago. If it was fat hen I was looking to establish I would have done a perfect job. Grass stand is very average even where seed rate was around 15kilo/ac. Will go with legumex DB, CCC and Manganesse this evening to see what that can do. Think there is Mn deficiency being shown by the seedlings which is common this year across all crops for some reason or other. Is Mn that easily leached?

Midlandsman80 · 28-08-2013 11:17AM

leg wax wrote: »

hard to know,they might have a shapey calf but i dont think a muscley calf, it looks like the ch has to much influence in the mother.

Hi Leg, did you get a chance to get a pic of the cows that produced you recent top quality weanling sales? can compare to CHxPT and see the diff, also give me an idea if any I have may have too much muscle...do you ever use blue on the mother side for muscle or always BA/PT. I see the big Jalex herd up north use almost all blue for the muscle on the mothers side but he surely has unreal management systems, staff and most likely an in house vet...a lot of lads would swear never any Blue in a suckler cow…

pakalasa · 28-08-2013 12:38PM

Bizzum · 28-08-2013 01:16PM

vanderbadger wrote: »

parthenaise Char springer and her calf, ai simm! cant remember bull from dovea, sim wouldnt be my cup of tea but he arrived handy enough

Seems to me using a Sim bull is a great way to get a bull calf. :-)
Great outfit that. She'd look lovely with her tail clipped.

leg wax · 28-08-2013 01:34PM

Midlandsman80 wrote: »

Hi Leg, did you get a chance to get a pic of the cows that produced you recent top quality weanling sales? can compare to CHxPT and see the diff, also give me an idea if any I have may have too much muscle...do you ever use blue on the mother side for muscle or always BA/PT. I see the big Jalex herd up north use almost all blue for the muscle on the mothers side but he surely has unreal management systems, staff and most likely an in house vet...a lot of lads would swear never any Blue in a suckler cow…

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Muckit · 28-08-2013 01:47PM

Off to the factory with the third one :pac:

Midlandsman80 · 28-08-2013 02:03PM

Thanks, they are a good bit above “nothing special” around these parts, what’s the breeding in the Lim’s? are they Lim’s with muscle or something else bringing that?

And my query or using any Blue on a Dam side? Iv two, one Blue (Gitan) x PB SIM and one Blue (BBQ) x Lim that I am going to give both AI Angus or Saler (2-3% Calving d) later this year to calve at 25 months, ill manage their feeding well in last 6-7 weeks and if they cant calve them ill let them go once fat again, good cows that would kill out big if it came to it. If it worked out I would move to proven easy Lim/BA/PT then before proven easy Blue.

delaval · 28-08-2013 02:25PM

awaywithyou wrote: »

take it your wrapping it?

what then for seeding?

Wrapped and stacked

Direct drill this evening or morning. I'd say morning as sunny here and contractor at grain I'd imagine

just do it · 28-08-2013 08:58PM

For those that are used to reseeding look away now - a few boring photos ahead!

Pic 1 - Grass 4 days post spraying and turning yellow. Not sure how will it comes out in the photo.

Pic 2 - Grass 6 days post spraying

Pic 3 - Freshly mowed. You can see the ridges (humps and hollows) I talked about in another thread

Pic 4 - Patch on left will be reseeded using chain harrow only. Ground on right has been disced. Me thinks my sprayer missed a strip :rolleyes:

Pic 5 - Close up on what the disc does. Turns up around 5 inches of soil

leg wax · 28-08-2013 09:14PM

Midlandsman80 wrote: »

Thanks, they are a good bit above “nothing special” around these parts, what’s the breeding in the Lim’s? are they Lim’s with muscle or something else bringing that?

And my query or using any Blue on a Dam side? Iv two, one Blue (Gitan) x PB SIM and one Blue (BBQ) x Lim that I am going to give both AI Angus or Saler (2-3% Calving d) later this year to calve at 25 months, ill manage their feeding well in last 6-7 weeks and if they cant calve them ill let them go once fat again, good cows that would kill out big if it came to it. If it worked out I would move to proven easy Lim/BA/PT then before proven easy Blue.

i have a good few blue cows and more 1st calved heifers with parthenaise calves with no problems ,just make sure they are big enough and if in dought throw out.

Muckit · 28-08-2013 09:17PM

Excellent stuff jdi. Ur like me with the experiment s :-) people can tell u What they like but sometimes ujust have to try it and figure it out for yourself. I'm watching this with interest cos want to try discing sometime

delaval · 29-08-2013 06:23AM

bob charles wrote: »

you going dumping it? presume there is plenty of cow crap in it after they being in it for a few hours

As usual im disappointed, a plough based reseed done a month ago. If it was fat hen I was looking to establish I would have done a perfect job. Grass stand is very average even where seed rate was around 15kilo/ac. Will go with legumex DB, CCC and Manganesse this evening to see what that can do. Think there is Mn deficiency being shown by the seedlings which is common this year across all crops for some reason or other. Is Mn that easily leached?

No, repackaging it. Will be better than a snowball in March;)

vanderbadger · 29-08-2013 06:25AM

just do it wrote: »

For those that are used to reseeding look away now - a few boring photos ahead!
are you hedging your bets between discing and chain harrow?

bob charles · 29-08-2013 08:51AM

just do it wrote: »

Pic 5 - Close up on what the disc does. Turns up around 5 inches of soil

How are you going working this ground down, is it the type of ground that goes into powder when dries out? Im not a fan of using discs when there is a strong sod in the ground as it chops it into blocks

get out with your budgie and get that spray miss:o

just do it · 29-08-2013 09:09AM

vanderbadger wrote: »

are you hedging your bets between discing and chain harrow?

No. I'd have done it all with the chain harrow if it was level.

just do it · 29-08-2013 09:12AM

bob charles wrote: »

How are you going working this ground down, is it the type of ground that goes into powder when dries out? Im not a fan of using discs when there is a strong sod in the ground as it chops it into blocks

get out with your budgie and get that spray miss:o

Time will tell how well it works

bob charles · 29-08-2013 09:17AM

just do it wrote: »

Time will tell how well it works

what machine is contractor going using to make a seed bed? it will work alright

just do it · 29-08-2013 09:19AM

Bob
What would you have done to level out the humps and hollows? Bare in mind I'll not let a plough near the place

just do it · 29-08-2013 09:25AM

bob charles wrote: »

what machine is contractor going using to make a seed bed? it will work alright

Power harrow

moy83 · 29-08-2013 09:29AM

just do it wrote: »

Bob
What would you have done to level out the humps and hollows? Bare in mind I'll not let a plough near the place

Why not a plough ? Stones ?

just do it · 29-08-2013 09:34AM

moy83 wrote: »

Why not a plough ? Stones ?

Yup, and little top soil

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