All-Ireland SFC Semi-Final - Dublin -v- Kerry

Amprodude · 26-08-2013 12:05PM

Only bad oman for Kerry is that any time I have been abroad over last 10 years they have always lost in championship. They rarely lose when I'm in Ireland. I will be abroad for this game.

Amprodude · 26-08-2013 12:07PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Think Kerry will put in their best performance on Sunday and will sneak a win.

Yeah I agree, Kerry can do things that no other county could do when they are written off.

Amprodude · 26-08-2013 12:10PM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

More this game gets closer the more I fancy Kerry. Had same feeling for Limerick/Clare game.

Kerry are too quiet..Way too quite... and Dubs seem to be too confident.

I have said it here already that I wouldn't be surprised if Dublin didn't turn up on the day.If Kerry win, they will win the All Ireland.

DoctaDee · 26-08-2013 12:16PM

Amprodude wrote: »

I have said it here already that I wouldn't be surprised if Dublin didn't turn up on the day.If Kerry win, they will win the All Ireland.

Well thats completely unfair 15 v 0 .. yup youse will win

Amprodude · 26-08-2013 12:39PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

Well thats completely unfair 15 v 0 .. yup youse will win

Ha ha funny.... We all know how good Dublin are and when in form would blow anyone away. They will have a big test next Sunday and if they blow Kerry away, then they are a serious team. I can't call the game but I for one won't write Kerry off.

Seamu$ · 26-08-2013 01:05PM

Amprodude wrote: »

Only bad oman for Kerry is that any time I have been abroad over last 10 years they have always lost in championship. They rarely lose when I'm in Ireland. I will be abroad for this game.

Have the Kerry County Board not been in touch to make arrangements for you to fly home?!!

DoctaDee · 26-08-2013 01:41PM

Amprodude wrote: »

Ha ha funny.... We all know how good Dublin are and when in form would blow anyone away. They will have a big test next Sunday and if they blow Kerry away, then they are a serious team. I can't call the game but I for one won't write Kerry off.

With the risk of indulging in hyperbole ... Dublin/Kerry matches in the championship have given some of the greatest defining moments in Football. The 70's are now consigned to nostalgia .. but even back to the 2 games in Thurles in 2001 and "that" point. The 2007 & 09 S/F's for differing reasons rubberstamped the greatness of the Kerry team. The '07 SF was a match between the 2 best teams in the country and befitted a final.

2011 gave (and I'm biased) Dublin a well deserved AI from all the disappointments in the intervening 16 years and beating Kerry added it as a "proper" AI.

So 2013 I feel will be no different. In many cases over the years one of the SF's was in actual fact the game of the year - followed by a damp squib of an AI final. The result is unclear but there's every chance this game will leave an indelible mark for years

seligehgit · 26-08-2013 01:46PM

Amprodude wrote: »

I have said it here already that I wouldn't be surprised if Dublin didn't turn up on the day.If Kerry win, they will win the All Ireland.

Sure Mayo might as well not show up if Kerry win next week.

Moneymaker · 26-08-2013 01:47PM

I still remember the last 15 minutes of 2011 so clearly in my mind and probably will til the day I die. Never heard noise and seen emotion like that at a sporting event ever in my life. A day I will cherish.

seligehgit wrote: »

Sure Mayo might as well not show up if Kerry win next week.

Cop on.

homerjay2005 · 26-08-2013 01:54PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

2011 gave (and I'm biased) Dublin a well deserved AI from all the disappointments in the intervening 16 years and beating Kerry added it as a "proper" AI.

just on this, Kerrys win over Cavan keeps an 18 year run going - the team that knocks out kerry normally at least gets to the final and this will be the case again this year if Dublin win.

More telling however, is that as has been the case apart from one year of the last 12, if Kerry dont win the all ireland, the team that beats them normally does.

1995 was the last time one of the teams in the All ireland final wasnt either Kerry, or the team that beat them.

2012 - Donegal (all ireland Champions)
2011 - Dublin (all ireland champions)
2010 - Down (Beaten finalists)
2009 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
2008 - Tyrone ((all ireland champions)
2007 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
2006 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
2005 - Tyrone (all ireland champions)
2004 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
2003 - Tyrone (all ireland champions)
2002 - Armagh (all ireland champions)
2001 - Meath (Beaten finalists)
2000 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
1999 - Cork - (Beaten finalists)
1998 - Kildate - (Beaten finalists)
1997 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
1996 - Mayo (Beaten finalists)
1995 - Cork (beaten in semi final)

seligehgit · 26-08-2013 01:56PM

Moneymaker wrote: »

I still remember the last 15 minutes of 2011 so clearly in my mind and probably will til the day I die. Never heard noise and seen emotion like that at a sporting event ever in my life. A day I will cherish.

Cop on.

Sorry that was a disrespectful post to Mayo, why be so dismissive of another team whatever one's personal opinion?

yop · 26-08-2013 04:04PM

Cormac Reilly appointed as ref seen on TV3, presume that was already known...

Whats he like?

Fr Tod Umptious · 26-08-2013 05:07PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

just on this, Kerrys win over Cavan keeps an 18 year run going - the team that knocks out kerry normally at least gets to the final and this will be the case again this year if Dublin win.

More telling however, is that as has been the case apart from one year of the last 12, if Kerry dont win the all ireland, the team that beats them normally does.

1995 was the last time one of the teams in the All ireland final wasnt either Kerry, or the team that beat them.

2012 - Donegal (all ireland Champions)
2011 - Dublin (all ireland champions)
2010 - Down (Beaten finalists)
2009 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
2008 - Tyrone ((all ireland champions)
2007 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
2006 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
2005 - Tyrone (all ireland champions)
2004 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
2003 - Tyrone (all ireland champions)
2002 - Armagh (all ireland champions)
2001 - Meath (Beaten finalists)
2000 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
1999 - Cork - (Beaten finalists)
1998 - Kildate - (Beaten finalists)
1997 - Kerry All Ireland Champions
1996 - Mayo (Beaten finalists)
1995 - Cork (beaten in semi final)

No it doesn't
Of the years you quoted, the 12 teams that beat Kerry, 6 won the All Ireland and 6 did not, and 4 of those 6 winners beat Kerry in the final

keane2097 · 26-08-2013 05:08PM

Watched the Cork game back. All criticism of Bernard Brogan withdrawn - I must have been hungover or something.

Dr. Bre · 26-08-2013 05:12PM

ha i can see a lot arriving late for this with liverpool manu finishing bout 3.20!

JulietJones · 26-08-2013 11:06PM

Going to be abroad on Sunday and no where near an irish pub so wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to watch the game on line live.. I know I can listen to radio one but would love to be able to watch it. Any help greatly appreciated.. perhaps I should be posting on technical website but am luddite!! Thanks

DoctaDee · 27-08-2013 10:05AM

It's official not a ticket left .. ladez and germs we have a sell out

Stinicker · 27-08-2013 10:13AM

DoctaDee wrote: »

It's official not a ticket left .. ladez and germs we have a sell out

Good, always a great spectacle to see these two old titans go head to head. Up the Kingdom and may the best team win and may it be Kerry!

homerjay2005 · 27-08-2013 10:41AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

No it doesn't
Of the years you quoted, the 12 teams that beat Kerry, 6 won the All Ireland and 6 did not, and 4 of those 6 winners beat Kerry in the final

10 of the last 11 have either been kerry or the team that beat them...that is pretty conclusive. 5 of the 6 teams you talk about came from 96 to 2001 so the point stands correct.

DoctaDee · 27-08-2013 11:09AM

Stinicker wrote: »

Good, always a great spectacle to see these two old titans go head to head. Up the Kingdom and may the best team win and may it be Kerry!

LOL.. I think Kerry have to take a bit of credit for the sell out - youse lads are an inquisitive lot.. I'm sure yer up to see what all the fuss is about with this Dublin team

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 27-08-2013 11:46AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

10 of the last 11 have either been kerry or the team that beat them...that is pretty conclusive. 5 of the 6 teams you talk about came from 96 to 2001 so the point stands correct.

That's because the Kerry team from '03 to '11 was exceptionally good, and got to every final in that period bar '10. They're clearly a team on the decline now however, so beating them doesn't hold the same relevance it used to hold. The point you made is obviously correct though. But since Horan and McGuiness have come in, Mayo and Donegal look to be the teams to beat. I think now there are 5 teams that could realistically beat Kerry, I'm not saying they're better than Kerry, but during the course of the naughties it only looked like Kerry could be defeated by Tyrone.

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-08-2013 02:26PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

10 of the last 11 have either been kerry or the team that beat them...that is pretty conclusive. 5 of the 6 teams you talk about came from 96 to 2001 so the point stands correct.

But you quoted from 1995, I was just analysing the data you submitted.

And on your point of 10 of the last 11 being Kerry or the team that beat them, 4 of those beatings were in finals, so there ain't a whole lot more playing do do once you win the final.
In your data only Donegal and Tyrone (2003) have beaten Kerry before the final and went on to win it, 6 others failed.

DDC1990 · 27-08-2013 08:38PM

1. Brendan Kealy Kilcummin
2. Marc Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
3. Mark Griffin St Michaels/Foilmore
4. Shane Enright Tarbert
5. Tomás Ó Sé An Ghaeltacht
6. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers
7. Fionn Fitzgerald Dr Crokes
8. Anthony Maher Duagh
9. Johnny Buckley Dr Crokes
10. Paul Galvin Finuge
11. Colm Cooper Dr Crokes (Capt)
12. Donnchadh Walsh Cromane
13. Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh/Glencar
14. Declan O’Sullivan Dromid Pearses
15. James O’Donoghue Killarney Legion
Subs:
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion
17. Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks
18. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys
19. Eoin Brosnan Dr Crokes
20. Kieran O’Leary Dr Crokes
21. Jack Sherwood Firies
22. Bryan Sheehan St Marys
23. Patrick Curtin Moyvane
24. Aidan O’Mahony Rathmore
25. Michael Geaney Dingle
26. Paul Geaney Dingle

Kerry team named as I expected. Will go man to man at the back, not sure of the matchups until the Dublin team is named.

Excitement starting to build now.

Pacy front three, so hopefully things will start the same way as the Cork game.

Fireball07 · 27-08-2013 08:50PM

So Brosnan doesn't get the start, Fitzgerald is in. I quite like Fitzgerald, good player imo. O'Mahony and Brosnan were great servants to Kerry, but neither are anywhere near as good as they used to be.

It's a good team, although the bench mightn't be as strong as Dublin's.

keane2097 · 27-08-2013 09:00PM

Marc - Brogan
Griffin - Rock
Enright - Mannion
Tomás - Connolly
Fitzgerald - Kilkenny
Crowley - Flynn

I imagine?

DDC1990 · 27-08-2013 09:08PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Marc - Brogan
Griffin - Rock
Enright - Mannion
Tomás - Connolly
Fitzgerald - Kilkenny
Crowley - Flynn

I imagine?

Swap Enright and Fitzgerald i'd say.

InchicoreDude · 27-08-2013 09:18PM

Seems very very early in the week to be naming your team. Any particular reason for this?

keane2097 · 27-08-2013 09:19PM

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Seems very very early in the week to be naming your team. Any particular reason for this?

Same as all year I think.

InchicoreDude · 27-08-2013 09:20PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Same as all year I think.

aah ok fair enough. They must have some routine in the Kerry set-up and are sticking to it. I guess it has worked for them so far.....but seems very early in week.

Padkir · 27-08-2013 09:21PM

keane2097 wrote: »

Marc - Brogan
Griffin - Rock
Enright - Mannion
Tomás - Connolly
Fitzgerald - Kilkenny
Crowley - Flynn

I imagine?

Jesus when you line them up like that you have to really fear for Kerry...

All-Ireland SFC Semi-Final - Dublin -v- Kerry

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