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All-Ireland SFC Semi-Final - Dublin -v- Kerry

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Can't believe how down on Bernard Brogan people are?Ok he has'nt been at his best the last couple of seasons but there were real signs of a return to form against Cork,as already mentioned the attention he generates creates space for his fellow forwards.He seems to lacking a little confidence,shots dropping into the keeper's hands,missed goal chance..
    Obviously there is no comparison between league and championship but it was a pleasure(NOT:D) to witness the exhibition he put on against Mayo in the league game in Croker this year,his sideline score was amazing.Not too many players give Ger Cafferkey such a testing evening.
    Form is temporary class is permanent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭TheGoldenAges


    Really?
    Excellent, Kerry might aswell start going easy in training as they'll win the game handy now so

    Although lacking experience, Shane supple the bench goalkeeper is a very able replacement and would be starting for most inter county teams. Though I'd almost guarantee cluxton will be fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,727 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Bernard may not be scoring but hes putting a good shift in on the pitch. He is working his socks off and with his reputation from the past he receives greater attention from opponents on marking him which allows the likes of Mannion, Connolly and Paddy Andrews to get more space and time on the ball. Now that Mannion has become the main man and the attention has diverted from Bernard he will get his chance to shine possibly against Kerry and hopefully in the final. He may have a massive say in the rest of this championship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 winteractive


    billyhead wrote: »
    Bernard may not be scoring but hes putting a good shift in on the pitch. He is working his socks off and with his reputation from the past he receives greater attention from opponents on marking him which allows the likes of Mannion, Connolly and Paddy Andrews to get more space and time on the ball. Now that Mannion has become the main man and the attention has diverted from Bernard he will get his chance to shine possibly against Kerry and hopefully in the final. He may have a massive say in the rest of this championship.

    Except he needs to actualy be able to put the ball between the posts to do that! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Although lacking experience, Shane supple the bench goalkeeper is a very able replacement and would be starting for most inter county teams. Though I'd almost guarantee cluxton will be fine

    I was taking the p*ss- just highlighting how idiotic and pointless these leaks of injuries are


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭manster


    Hope that Jack McCaffrey is ok for the match after his serious hand injury. Would like to see him and Darren O'Sullivan racing for a 50/50 ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    is the Ref announced yet? if its Mcquillan, its a 3 or 4 point head start for the Dubs already, so hopefully its not, we need every break we can get.

    Dublin already in the final according to practically everywhere you look and read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude



    Dublin already in the final according to practically everywhere you look and read.

    I wouldnt believe it for one minute. There is a big game in Kerry next day out against Dublin. I would be more interested on how Dublin will deal with it. If Dublin pass this test, then they are a serious team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    Dublin already in the final according to practically everywhere you look and read.

    Go on then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Ed Winchester


    is the Ref announced yet? if its Mcquillan, its a 3 or 4 point head start for the Dubs already, so hopefully its not, we need every break we can get.

    Dublin already in the final according to practically everywhere you look and read.

    Jesus wept!

    Are you for real?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Jesus wept!

    Are you for real?

    do tell......


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird


    do tell......

    Win, lose or draw Dublin will accept the result. As the other thirty counties would.
    Kerry as usual if they lose will be graceless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Win, lose or draw Dublin will accept the result. As the other thirty counties would.
    Kerry as usual if they lose will be graceless.

    That's rubbish-I don't want to go down the petty tit-for-tat route that you seem to want to take this.
    It is hard to deny though that Joe had a stinker in 2011


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Killian Young seriously injured in training match today, massive loss for Kerry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Killian Young seriously injured in training match today, massive loss for Kerry.
    After all the good news yesterday, AOM and Sheehan and Tomás were all pronounced fit!

    Hammerblow! Fractured ankle!

    Enright AOM Marc
    Fionn Tomás Crowley

    Is how they should lineout, with Griffin in for AOM if need be. Brosnan doesn't have 70 mins in him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    That's rubbish-I don't want to go down the petty tit-for-tat route that you seem to want to take this.
    It is hard to deny though that Joe had a stinker in 2011

    I don't think he brought it up to be honest. I'll deny he had a bad game no problem, Kerry were beaten but some posters seem to want dwell on the analysis , lets stop the game with ten minutes to go when Kerry were 4 points up, the Biggest lead the game had, 3 minutes minutes later a goal was scored by a player that everyone knew was going to be brought on as an impact sub but the kerry management team didn't prepare for, he scores a gaol there are about 7 minutes of normal time left. Why can't we talk about kerry being one point up with 7 minutes plus extra time to go?

    The lad is having a pop because there are posters here who have done everything to take from the victory in 2011. Some have gone out of their way always returning to 10 minutes left 4 points up, failing to spot the Gilroy tactic of strengthening the team for the final 20 minutes that he used for two years. The guy who was brought on to run at a tired kerry defence and score a goal did just that. The kerry management team got it wrong, they miss judged the momentum of the game didn't study how hard Gilroy worked on the final quarter due to falling apart at that stage do many times before.
    Kerry lost, not by much Dublin had a bit of luck along the way, but let it go about the ref, I actually think that 2011 will motivate Dublin more than Kerry. I see EF in the star having a moan about now too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    Hard to blame J McQ for Kerry's loss in '11. Stinks of bitterness as well. As John Evans alluded to during the week, I think the person most at fault for Kerry losing was Declan O' S. Sloppily gave away possession before the goal was got and put in a lazy tackle on McMenamin when he should've taken him down. He should be raring to go next Sunday, but he has been exceptionally poor thus far in championship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Stoner wrote: »
    I don't think he brought it up to be honest. I'll deny he had a bad game no problem, Kerry were beaten but some posters seem to want dwell on the analysis , lets stop the game with ten minutes to go when Kerry were 4 points up, the Biggest lead the game had, 3 minutes minutes later a goal was scored by a player that everyone knew was going to be brought on as an impact sub but the kerry management team didn't prepare for, he scores a gaol there are about 7 minutes of normal time left. Why can't we talk about kerry being one point up with 7 minutes plus extra time to go?

    The lad is having a pop because there are posters here who have done everything to take from the victory in 2011. Some have gone out of their way always returning to 10 minutes left 4 points up, failing to spot the Gilroy tactic of strengthening the team for the final 20 minutes that he used for two years. The guy who was brought on to run at a tired kerry defence and score a goal did just that. The kerry management team got it wrong, they miss judged the momentum of the game didn't study how hard Gilroy worked on the final quarter due to falling apart at that stage do many times before.
    Kerry lost, not by much Dublin had a bit of luck along the way, but let it go about the ref, I actually think that 2011 will motivate Dublin more than Kerry. I see EF in the star having a moan about now too.

    I agree with you to an extent but any analysis of a game is going to include an analysis of the refs performance.
    On the day it was very poor, which you have agreed with!

    He got a lot of calls wrong, which is common place for GAA refs as the standard is generally poor, and the problem most people have is that they favoured Dublin.

    I think it needs to be let go of now though as its in the past- attempts to change the narrative though will not help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I agree with you to an extent but any analysis of a game is going to include an analysis of the refs performance.
    On the day it was very poor, which you have agreed with!

    He got a lot of calls wrong, which is common place for GAA refs as the standard is generally poor, and the problem most people have is that they favoured Dublin.

    I think it needs to be let go of now though as its in the past- attempts to change the narrative though will not help
    u

    Fair enough, but I didn't agree with him having a bad game, I think brennan was lucky to stay on, but I thought KDs off the ball antics went unnoticed too. We can disagree on issues no problem, but there is no need for your post to form an opinion for me, because it's not my opinion in this case, nor is it really within the scope of one poster to make a claim on behalf of '' most people '' might be most people where you are from, but it not where I'm from.
    We've lost plenty of games over the years by one point to the eventual winners and were in many people's eyes worth of the loss, you can't have it both ways well beaten by a point one day and handed a game the next.
    The bit of luck along the way referred to the way to winning, Kildare deserved a replay that year IMHO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    THFC wrote: »
    Hard to blame J McQ for Kerry's loss in '11. Stinks of bitterness as well. As John Evans alluded to during the week, I think the person most at fault for Kerry losing was Declan O' S. Sloppily gave away possession before the goal was got and put in a lazy tackle on McMenamin when he should've taken him down. He should be raring to go next Sunday, but he has been exceptionally poor thus far in championship.
    People are very quick to cry "bitterness" and "sour grapes" if any complaint is made about an officials performance.

    I'm not bitter about Dublin winning. Kerry were in a position to win and lost focus on the field and on the sideline.

    But to say McQuillan didn't have an influence on the game, and as such had an influence on the loss is pretty laughable.

    The problem with his performance was inconsistency, and the fact that this inconsistency didn't balance itself out.

    Some tackles were fouls at one end of the field and not at the other. Im not saying every decision went against Kerry (that would be deluded and blinkered) but I felt on the day and after watching it back that Kerry got a raw deal from McQuillan that day.

    Were other factors at play? Of course! No one factor can solely be attributed to a loss in any game. But he did have an influence.

    And thats Sport! At the end of the day, it happens every day all over the world. But its certainly not bitterness to highlight it. And its not a slight on Dublin either. Dublin showed immense character and drive to come out and claw that game back. They made the right calls on the sideline and outfoxed Kerry on and off the Field in the last 10 minutes. They deserved their All Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 surfer86


    Does anyone know or are you able to find out for me where I can watch the game of the championship :) in siem reap in Cambodia. Can't wait to watch this game. Thanks for any help you can give. I emailed one Irish bar there called Molly malones Irish pub haven't received any reply yet though. Go raibh maith agat a chara


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭TheGoldenAges


    surfer86 wrote: »
    Does anyone know or are you able to find out for me where I can watch the game of the championship :) in siem reap in Cambodia. Can't wait to watch this game. Thanks for any help you can give. I emailed one Irish bar there called Molly malones Irish pub haven't received any reply yet though. Go raibh maith agat a chara

    If you have a decent internet connection there'll be streams online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 surfer86


    If you have a decent internet connection there'll be streams online.

    Cheers for that, Internet stream will be last resort, not sure if the speed will be good enough and would love the pub atmosphere for the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    Think Kerry could be line for a big performance..alot of the Dubs side are very young...Earwigs joe earwigs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    Great to see E Fitz at the match yesterday - must be planning for next years league campaign .. now that's commitment :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    People are very quick to cry "bitterness" and "sour grapes" if any complaint is made about an officials performance.

    I'm not bitter about Dublin winning. Kerry were in a position to win and lost focus on the field and on the sideline.

    But to say McQuillan didn't have an influence on the game, and as such had an influence on the loss is pretty laughable.

    The problem with his performance was inconsistency, and the fact that this inconsistency didn't balance itself out.

    Some tackles were fouls at one end of the field and not at the other. Im not saying every decision went against Kerry (that would be deluded and blinkered) but I felt on the day and after watching it back that Kerry got a raw deal from McQuillan that day.

    Were other factors at play? Of course! No one factor can solely be attributed to a loss in any game. But he did have an influence.

    And thats Sport! At the end of the day, it happens every day all over the world. But its certainly not bitterness to highlight it. And its not a slight on Dublin either. Dublin showed immense character and drive to come out and claw that game back. They made the right calls on the sideline and outfoxed Kerry on and off the Field in the last 10 minutes. They deserved their All Ireland.

    Thank you, been listening to Kerry folk whine about that same thing ever since, finally someone sensible.

    That's the past now, lets hope for a cracking game next week and may the best team win.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Think Kerry will put in their best performance on Sunday and will sneak a win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,731 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    More this game gets closer the more I fancy Kerry. Had same feeling for Limerick/Clare game.

    Kerry are too quiet..Way too quite... and Dubs seem to be too confident.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    81,000 tickets sold so far,Should be sold out by weekend


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,411 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Prop Joe wrote: »
    81,000 tickets sold so far,Should be sold out by weekend

    Thats the first of the year, and the first in a long time


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