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Your favourite unsolved mystery?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    Excellent thread. I've spent most of the day going through it.

    Some modern mysteries I find interesting:
    • The disappearance of the McStay Family from San Diego. A family of four suddenly run from their house, leaving half-eaten food out and their dogs without food, to flee across the (nearby) Mexican border. Despite them owning a car, cameras show them (or a group thought to be them) walking over the border on foot. This was a middle-class family with no connection to gangs or crime. They gave no indication to family or friends that they were in trouble. What were they running from? Where are they now?
    • The "disappearance" of Shelly Miscavige (wife of the leader of Scientology). Until just last month, when actress Leah Remini broke scientology ranks and made an official missing person's report, it was thought by some that Shelly was dead. She hadn't been seen in public since 2007. It has become clear that she is alive and that she is willingly/being held at a compound in California. The whole thing gives me the creeps, it's hard to know of she's there of her own free will or not.
    • The death of Flo Barnett (Shelly Miscavige's mother). Shot 3 times in the chest and once in the head with a rifle. Yet, a "suicide". It seems obvious given the weapon used that she physically could not have killed herself in this way so who killed her and why?
    • The disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley from a cruise ship off South America. It's thought she was kidnapped and forced into sexual slavery (a pretty disturbing photo which surfaced years later seems to give this legs) but what happened to her is still a mystery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,564 ✭✭✭Duff


    Average-Ro wrote: »
    Coincidentally, look what I came across this morning.


    Watched it a few weeks ago. Not the worst.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    http://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-mysteries-with-really-obvious-solutions.html

    Apologies if this has been posted already, only on page 11 of the thread so far.

    Number 6 - Dyatlov Pass
    Number 3 - The Mad Gasser
    Number 1 - Bermuda Triangle

    Great thread btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Colmustard wrote: »
    OK I will say it

    How come women can put a duvet cover on in such a simple movement

    While us men usually get tied up and inside the damn thing.

    Jus,,t just,, why can't us men put a duvet cover on.

    If anyone know the answer, lay off the quantum physics, and tell me in plain english.

    Stop acting dumb!

    You start with the duvet cover inside out, put your hands in it to the two distant corners, once this is done, grab two corners on the duvet and shake the duvet cover, it will turn itself around the right way and voila...

    Now stop using that lame excuse to get out of doing it. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Stop acting dumb!

    You start with the duvet cover inside out, put your hands in it to the two distant corners, once this is done, grab two corners on the duvet and shake the duvet cover, it will turn itself around the right way and voila...

    Now stop using that lame excuse to get out of doing it. :D

    shhhh, Sunflower!
    Whatever you do, don't tell them how to do the towel-turban over wet hair in two shakes of a lamb's tail.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone Would love if this turned out to be authentic .

    Especially with other "out of place" artifacts http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/society/text/other_artifacts.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,293 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    dyatlov pass incident is nuts...

    I mean there isn't a real logical explanation as to what happened.

    Read up and watch videos on this. Really is one of the biggest mysteries of all time.

    EVENFLOW



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    dyatlov pass incident is nuts...

    I mean there isn't a real logical explanation as to what happened.

    Read up and watch videos on this. Really is one of the biggest mysteries of all time.

    this link a few posts back has a plausible explanation:
    http://www.cracked.com/article_16671_6-famous-unsolved-mysteries-with-really-obvious-solutions.html

    (sorry, I can't resist doing the scooby-doo on mysteries, though it's ultimately deflating, like bubble-wrap...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,971 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Who actually was the person who eventually took the horse to France.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Average-Ro wrote: »
    Coincidentally, look what I came across this morning.



    Just finished watching it and, apart from a split second view of the top half of Gemma Atkinson's wonderful E cups, it was overall sh!te.
    They threw in every theory known to this incident and mashed them altogether in a gooey, silly paste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    The Big Bang :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭nervous_twitch


    The polaroid of Tara Calico is another interesting if disturbing story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    There are a lot of unsolved issues in the world and what we hear and what goes on tends to be different. Love them or hate them, but Israel and the West can get away with anything they like whereas other countries (even if they say something rather than do something) tend to be reprimanded if they step out of line. Contrast Israel's invasion of Lebanon and the wars in the former Yugoslavia. The then leaders Olmert and Milosevic were very very similar (evil is the word) but a blind eye was turned to one whereas the other was bombed!

    9/11 remains the biggest unsolved mystery. Firstly, that an organised crime syndicate could get away with planning this without the US knowing something I do not buy. The chaos that followed this including the Afghan and Iraq wars and the subsequent financial crises are a legacy of this and it seems it was all futile. The Middle East has been plagued by war and when one country seems to be calming, another civil war erupts elsewhere. Terrorism and the threat of it has not gone away and the biggest mystery about al Qaeda is who is really behind it? Or why a direct war on that evil organisation has never truly been launched.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    What exactly is it that Meat Loaf WONT do for love.?
    Personally i would do anything.

    Euthanasia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Average-Ro wrote: »
    Coincidentally, look what I came across this morning.
    Lol, look at the paper clippings in the video. All Lorem Ipsum.
    About 10 secs in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Hedgemeister


    The theft of the Irish Crown Jewels is an interesting mystery, and one which fascinated me so much I include it in my latest book.
    The theft appears to have been remarkably easy, because security was lax to the point of being non existent.

    The Jewels were last seen on the 11 June 1907, and only missed on the 03 July when a house-keeper found a security cabinet open.

    There's some who thought the theft an inside job (and there was evidence for this) while more assumed it was a joke, or a prank that went belly up when the yellow stuff hit the fan, and the jewels dumped because they were too hot to handle)

    There's some evidence of this too.

    My theory?

    I believe the latter was the case, and the jewels were hastily hidden and await discovery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    That D. B. Cooper page on Wikipedia is a fascinating read. Really enjoyed it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,743 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Not 'favourite', but the ones I'd like to see solved the soonest (it probably isn't to be, though): Maddie McCann and JonBenet Ramsey (RIP).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 JohnC83


    The Money Pit......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island
    Who knows what treasures lurk beneath!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Philip Cairns is another one - only happened a 10-15 minute walk down the road from me as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Cairns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    I remember Philip Cairns well he was the same age as me.Often wondered what happened to him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7



    9/11 remains the biggest unsolved mystery.

    Planes were hijacked and flown into buildings. Dramatic and extraordinary? yes. A mystery? no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,332 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    There are a lot of unsolved issues in the world and what we hear and what goes on tends to be different. Love them or hate them, but Israel and the West can get away with anything they like whereas other countries (even if they say something rather than do something) tend to be reprimanded if they step out of line. Contrast Israel's invasion of Lebanon and the wars in the former Yugoslavia. The then leaders Olmert and Milosevic were very very similar (evil is the word) but a blind eye was turned to one whereas the other was bombed!

    9/11 remains the biggest unsolved mystery. Firstly, that an organised crime syndicate could get away with planning this without the US knowing something I do not buy. The chaos that followed this including the Afghan and Iraq wars and the subsequent financial crises are a legacy of this and it seems it was all futile. The Middle East has been plagued by war and when one country seems to be calming, another civil war erupts elsewhere. Terrorism and the threat of it has not gone away and the biggest mystery about al Qaeda is who is really behind it? Or why a direct war on that evil organisation has never truly been launched.



    The biggest ifs and buts to the 9/11 conspiracy theories are the scale of the attacks.

    The US would have justified two wars with strong public backing by committing deadly but less financially and casualty causing attacks. A wave of car bomb attacks in various cities for example, would have been a somewhat lesser carnage but still horrifying enough to get the public behind a war.

    But thousands dead, the airline industry nearly collapsing, insurance companies going to the brink, the two financial powerhouses of the country hit with many of the greatest economic and military minds among the dead at the WTC and Pentagon, it really would be too much of a shoot yourself in the foot attack to entertain a false flag theory. Particularly against Afghanistan, a rugged land the USA already would have had justification in attacking but chose not to do so because of its historical ability to beat foreign invaders. There was certainly negligence that allowed the attacks to occur, but direct involvement is a stretch too far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    The biggest ifs and buts to the 9/11 conspiracy theories are the scale of the attacks.

    The US would have justified two wars with strong public backing by committing deadly but less financially and casualty causing attacks. A wave of car bomb attacks in various cities for example, would have been a somewhat lesser carnage but still horrifying enough to get the public behind a war.

    But thousands dead, the airline industry nearly collapsing, insurance companies going to the brink, the two financial powerhouses of the country hit with many of the greatest economic and military minds among the dead at the WTC and Pentagon, it really would be too much of a shoot yourself in the foot attack to entertain a false flag theory. Particularly against Afghanistan, a rugged land the USA already would have had justification in attacking but chose not to do so because of its historical ability to beat foreign invaders. There was certainly negligence that allowed the attacks to occur, but direct involvement is a stretch too far.
    I would be inclined to agree... if that administration didn't prove itself to be utterly, and increasingly, insane throughout it's tenure - as well as utterly reckless. They set the blueprint for the sheer madness that the Republican Parry is today.

    That said, I don't follow the 'mass conspiracy' bit myself either, as there are some tinfoil hat wearers who have brought it to the nth degree and just made any valid argument toxic by association. But I figure there had to be something murky there at some level, somewhere... just not sure what. Kind of a situation that even if they all got proven 100% guilty of complete conspiracy tomorrow, I wouldn't be all too shocked, but at the same time there's not enough information out there for anyone to claim to know the entire truth about alleged conspiracies and whatnot.

    Kind of like before Snowden, most were suspicious of what the NSA were up to (or at least chunks of it), but there wasn't enough to know it for fact. When that story broke, all that really surprised me was that it surprised so many other people. But I'm a bit of a sceptic on both sides. :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Sunglasses Ron


    Billy86 wrote: »

    Kind of like before Snowden, most were suspicious of what the NSA were up to (or at least chunks of it), but there wasn't enough to know it for fact. When that story broke, all that really surprised me was that it surprised so many other people. But I'm a bit of a sceptic on both sides. :p


    I remembering hearing of this programme before 9/11 and the Homeland Security days, it is essentially the same thing

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

    Why Captain Edward Obvious is a hero for telling us something that was common knowledge at least 13 years ago I'm not too sure of. The US government has been monitoring international conversations for many, many years. The world seems to think it is something that their now fallen hero Obama started.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭michael.dublin


    who killed jimmy hoffa and where is he buried ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    I remembering hearing of this programme before 9/11 and the Homeland Security days, it is essentially the same thing

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

    Why Captain Edward Obvious is a hero for telling us something that was common knowledge at least 13 years ago I'm not too sure of. The US government has been monitoring international conversations for many, many years. The world seems to think it is something that their now fallen hero Obama started.
    You'd have to ask the global public who are so outraged (read: naive) or the US gov't who are so eager to get him, to be honest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    The biggest ifs and buts to the 9/11 conspiracy theories are the scale of the attacks.

    The US would have justified two wars with strong public backing by committing deadly but less financially and casualty causing attacks. A wave of car bomb attacks in various cities for example, would have been a somewhat lesser carnage but still horrifying enough to get the public behind a war.

    But thousands dead, the airline industry nearly collapsing, insurance companies going to the brink, the two financial powerhouses of the country hit with many of the greatest economic and military minds among the dead at the WTC and Pentagon, it really would be too much of a shoot yourself in the foot attack to entertain a false flag theory. Particularly against Afghanistan, a rugged land the USA already would have had justification in attacking but chose not to do so because of its historical ability to beat foreign invaders. There was certainly negligence that allowed the attacks to occur, but direct involvement is a stretch too far.

    I never said that the US was directly involved in the attacks but that a whole lot of unanswered questions remain about the attacks. Here's some issues:

    1- I would find it hard to believe that the US agencies knew nothing about them but could have played down the issues and never believed it was possible. Hindsight is easy.
    2- Why target what was targetted? What was in the WTO that someone was so desperate to destroy? That was picked for a reason not for some vague gesture like 'attacking a building that symbolises keeping poor countries down'. The organisers of 9/11 were hardly poor and could not care less about the poor!! Under their reign, indeed Afghanistan was the poorest country outside Africa but they lived in luxury - bin Laden and Zawahiri were upperclass rich men - even if they were caves: but modified and house-like caves. Frontman Mullah Omar lived in palace. Enemies of the poor? Definitely? WTO as threat to them? Maybe something about drug money being laundered was about to break?
    3- How could well-educated postgrad students be convinced to fly planes into buildings and obey and believe in voodoo black magic? They were either drugged (AQ is one of the biggest heroin dealers on the planet) or else forced into it. Certainly, they would not do it in their right mind as they had minds. What did 9/11 were zombies and to be a zombie, you either have to be drugged or told to do it to avoid some worse fate.
    4- Iran, Iraq and North Korea had nothing got to do with it. Why was one of them attacked and two threatened?

    I believe the full truth about 9/11 will never be truly known. The key though is to find out WHY WTO was attacked? What was in that building that posed a threat to the biggest drug dealers on the planet? That is the key to the truth.


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