Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

wawaman · 16-08-2013 10:39AM

maximoose wrote: »

If Arsenal were never really in for him, and were never really in for Higuain either as reported - then bar Suarez, who the hell are they actually really in for?

There must be some targets being worked on that are being kept hush hush.

Surely....

They are so secretive that neither Wenger or the board know who they are !!

Oranage2 · 16-08-2013 10:39AM

Bender and suarez for sure - jotivic, Rooney possibly

greendom · 16-08-2013 10:43AM

Did Wenger mention whether there was any chance of signing anybody today ? I may just turn off the internet for a while if not. I can't cope with much more of this misery.

cathalio11 · 16-08-2013 10:44AM

Mertesacker had an absolute shocked on Wednesday against Paraguay so that's not a good sign.
German fans apparently livid with him.

Marty McFly · 16-08-2013 10:47AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

well yeah i agree with this.

114k gbp a week is a big wage, its a star players wage.

he was on 60k euro at bayern I heard, so he's more than doubled his wages to go a lower placed bundesliga team.

I won't be going into Meltdown over losing this one.

It's not a star players wage anymore compare it to city's, united or Chelsea top earners it's not; )

Plus if we have a club like Wolfsburg outbidding us for players is a disgrace never mind his wage demands reports are saying we wouldn't match there bid. That is a disgrace no matter what spin you put on it it's not like they got him for astronomical money.

greendom · 16-08-2013 10:48AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

It's not a star players wage anymore compare it to city's, united or Chelsea top earners it's not; )

Plus if we have a club like Wolfsburg outbidding us for players is a disgrace never mind his wage demands reports are saying we wouldn't match there bid. That is a disgrace no matter what spin you put on it it's not like they got him for astronomical money.

Wolfsburg are bankrolled by VW

gosplan · 16-08-2013 10:50AM

Until we sign someone, people will be furious with any player that might fit going to any club for any price.

That's how desperate the club are for players.

I'm still hoping for an all out splash the cash (Suarez) and two backup players, one for Mert and one for Arteta.

At the end of the summer, I'll simply say - Wenger you spanner, why did you risk so much by signing the backup's late.

bad2dabone · 16-08-2013 10:53AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Bender and suarez for sure - jotivic, Rooney possibly

you mean Jovetic who joined manchester city over a month ago?
and which Bender? Lars or Sven? neither going to happen.

AnCapaillMor · 16-08-2013 10:55AM

Probably end up with futurama's bender.

Kirby · 16-08-2013 10:55AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

and which Bender? Lars or Sven? neither going to happen.

Both! The fans can call them the wonder twins!

batistuta9 · 16-08-2013 10:56AM

overpronator wrote: »

Would really love it a journalist had the courage to take Wenger to task over his transfer policy in the press conference today, really ask him the difficult questions rather than just listen to him philosophise like a University lecturer. He needs to articulate his plans to the supporters that he seem to so blatantly disregard.

Im a huge Wenger fan but if we do sign Flamini (only speculation I know) then it makes a mockery of every season ticket holder and he need to explain himself.

you know what i've noticed him doing recently is butting in before the reporter can finish the real question he's asking, talking over them even and then wenger takes it off direction too.

you'll only notice that if you see the full press conf. instead of just a clip of him speaking on SSN or on the website the title of the story broadly is about the answer

and even then its quite hard to actually notice what the journos are asking but i picked up on it at the emirates cup ones

the press conf. is on the player now, must watch it

Marty McFly · 16-08-2013 10:56AM

greendom wrote: »

Wolfsburg are bankrolled by VW

I know that but they got him for 14 million!!! Yet we wouldn't match that. No excuses for that.

cson · 16-08-2013 10:57AM

Its all about perspective; we could have Santos and Denilson, who probably were on close to 120k, between them contributing absolutely nothing or we could have an incumbent Brazilian international proven at the highest level in Europe who if fit would probably start 30-40 games this season for the same price.

We're running a circus at the moment, and I'm not really finding it one bit funny.

cathalio11 · 16-08-2013 10:58AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know that but they got him for 14 million!!! Yet we wouldn't match that. No excuses for that.

14 million isn't the problem. I'm sure we would have matched that.

It's the 114k a week. Which as I said, is higher than any current Arsenal player and will give many players like Cazorla, Walcott, Wilshere and Koscielny a reason to look for more money; whether it is in the club or outside the club.

keano_afc · 16-08-2013 10:58AM

We're living in the past with regard to wages. Players of Gustavo's quality demand high wages. Thats just how it is. If we dont want to pay over €100k for a player where exactly does Wenger expect to sign 2-3 players of "super super quality" from?

Kirby · 16-08-2013 10:59AM

keano_afc wrote: »

If we dont want to pay over €100k for a player where exactly does Wenger expect to sign 2-3 players of "super super quality" from?

From 1996 apparently.

greendom · 16-08-2013 11:00AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know that but they got him for 14 million!!! Yet we wouldn't match that. No excuses for that.

I thought we bid more than that

keano_afc · 16-08-2013 11:00AM

cathalio11 wrote: »

14 million isn't the problem. I'm sure we would have matched that.

It's the 114k a week. Which as I said, is higher than any current Arsenal player and will give many players like Cazorla, Walcott, Wilshere and Koscielny a reason to look for more money; whether it is in the club or outside the club.

We've saved thousands a week on wages so we can pay players that bit extra who are going to contribute. How much were Chamakh, Santos, Denilson, Squirrel, Arshavin on a week combined for no contribution? Are you telling me their wages cant be spent on a player who would have made a difference for us? Its crazy.

batistuta9 · 16-08-2013 11:01AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know that but they got him for 14 million!!! Yet we wouldn't match that. No excuses for that.

ESPN are saying £17m with comments from Gustave "I need to play, play, play"

it also says he agreed to wolfsburg with less money than arsenal are offering

Marty McFly · 16-08-2013 11:07AM

batistuta9 wrote: »

ESPN are saying £17m with comments from Gustave "I need to play, play, play"

it also says he agreed to wolfsburg with less money than arsenal are offering

I've read differently and going by ESPN the last two summers I'd have them on a par with goal.com

Second bit I don't buy either he would have played a lot of games at Arsenal no doubt his chances of playing for Brazil would have been improved at Arsenal aswell.

greendom · 16-08-2013 11:07AM

I don't think the Gustavo transfer is one to beat ourselves up about. He had plenty of offers to join clubs all over Europe and he chose to stay in Germany for his own reasons. Nothing Arsenal could have done about it.

gandalf · 16-08-2013 11:10AM

batistuta9 wrote: »

ESPN are saying £17m with comments from Gustave "I need to play, play, play"

it also says he agreed to wolfsburg with less money than arsenal are offering

I'd say his primary driver is to ensure he is playing for Brazil at the world cup next year and we could not give him the assurance that his name would be first on the team sheet for every game. I assume that's what Wolfsburg have given him (along with more wages obviously).

Even as an optimist I am highly concerned at the lack of depth and cover in the squad and am getting more and more frustrated because I really believe our team with a couple of additions are well capable of mounting a serious challenge for the league.

batistuta9 · 16-08-2013 11:10AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

I've read differently and going by ESPN the last two summers I'd have them on a par with goal.com

Second bit I don't buy either he would have played a lot of games at Arsenal no doubt his chances of playing for Brazil would have been improved at Arsenal aswell.

watch the video, their talking about what rafa honeigstein said

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/230357.html

he'd play games at munich too, no doubt but from what he's said now & even the stories about him being available in january, it's all about being a starter for him

sometime it's not arsenals fault or you can't blame them, sometimes :pac:

batistuta9 · 16-08-2013 11:15AM

how would his chance of playing for brazil increase at arsenal if he already starts for them

+ scolari is loyal to his players/starter from what i heard about him in the confed. cup

the way things are at the minute arsenal & wenger would get crucified for not getting messi

Marty McFly · 16-08-2013 11:19AM

I'm not pissed as such at loosing out on Gustavo but more so on the fact it's been quite clear we had an interest in a player and once again we couldn't close the deal.

We really have to be the worst club for getting business done. Once again were going into a season desperately short lessons are never learned.

FearDark · 16-08-2013 11:27AM

Is it time to put Wenger out to pasture?

bad2dabone · 16-08-2013 11:32AM

FearDark wrote: »

Is it time to put Wenger out to pasture?

I really want the man to succeed as I want arsenal to succeed.

But as i've said before I think if he doesn't sign a new contract it might not be the worst thing

L'prof · 16-08-2013 11:32AM

FearDark wrote: »

Is it time to put Wenger out to pasture?

Not yet. He says he wants to add 2/3 players, maybe more, and I believe him. He says he wants to add quality players and I believe him. If he fails to sign at least 2 players who can make a real contribution then maybe we can ask that question then. It's still to early right now.

greendom · 16-08-2013 11:36AM

FearDark wrote: »

Is it time to put Wenger out to pasture?

I don't think he'll be eating grass anyway !

wawaman · 16-08-2013 11:37AM

L'prof wrote: »

Not yet. He says he wants to add 2/3 players, maybe more, and I believe him. He says he wants to add quality players and I believe him. If he fails to sign at least 2 players who can make a real contribution then maybe we can ask that question then. It's still to early right now.

But when is too late? Drop points in the league and go out of the CL?

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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