Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

I'm not pissed as such at loosing out on Gustavo but more so on the fact it's been quite clear we had an interest in a player and once again we couldn't close the deal.

We really have to be the worst club for getting business done. Once again were going into a season desperately short lessons are never learned.

how would his chance of playing for brazil increase at arsenal if he already starts for them

+ scolari is loyal to his players/starter from what i heard about him in the confed. cup

the way things are at the minute arsenal & wenger would get crucified for not getting messi

Marty McFly wrote: »

I've read differently and going by ESPN the last two summers I'd have them on a par with goal.com

Second bit I don't buy either he would have played a lot of games at Arsenal no doubt his chances of playing for Brazil would have been improved at Arsenal aswell.

watch the video, their talking about what rafa honeigstein said

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/230357.html

he'd play games at munich too, no doubt but from what he's said now & even the stories about him being available in january, it's all about being a starter for him

sometime it's not arsenals fault or you can't blame them, sometimes :pac:

gandalf

batistuta9 wrote: »

ESPN are saying £17m with comments from Gustave "I need to play, play, play"

it also says he agreed to wolfsburg with less money than arsenal are offering

I'd say his primary driver is to ensure he is playing for Brazil at the world cup next year and we could not give him the assurance that his name would be first on the team sheet for every game. I assume that's what Wolfsburg have given him (along with more wages obviously).

Even as an optimist I am highly concerned at the lack of depth and cover in the squad and am getting more and more frustrated because I really believe our team with a couple of additions are well capable of mounting a serious challenge for the league.

I don't think the Gustavo transfer is one to beat ourselves up about. He had plenty of offers to join clubs all over Europe and he chose to stay in Germany for his own reasons. Nothing Arsenal could have done about it.

batistuta9 wrote: »

ESPN are saying £17m with comments from Gustave "I need to play, play, play"

it also says he agreed to wolfsburg with less money than arsenal are offering

I've read differently and going by ESPN the last two summers I'd have them on a par with goal.com

Second bit I don't buy either he would have played a lot of games at Arsenal no doubt his chances of playing for Brazil would have been improved at Arsenal aswell.

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know that but they got him for 14 million!!! Yet we wouldn't match that. No excuses for that.

ESPN are saying £17m with comments from Gustave "I need to play, play, play"

it also says he agreed to wolfsburg with less money than arsenal are offering

keano_afc

cathalio11 wrote: »

14 million isn't the problem. I'm sure we would have matched that.

It's the 114k a week. Which as I said, is higher than any current Arsenal player and will give many players like Cazorla, Walcott, Wilshere and Koscielny a reason to look for more money; whether it is in the club or outside the club.

We've saved thousands a week on wages so we can pay players that bit extra who are going to contribute. How much were Chamakh, Santos, Denilson, Squirrel, Arshavin on a week combined for no contribution? Are you telling me their wages cant be spent on a player who would have made a difference for us? Its crazy.

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know that but they got him for 14 million!!! Yet we wouldn't match that. No excuses for that.

I thought we bid more than that

Kirby

keano_afc wrote: »

If we dont want to pay over €100k for a player where exactly does Wenger expect to sign 2-3 players of "super super quality" from?

From 1996 apparently.

keano_afc

We're living in the past with regard to wages. Players of Gustavo's quality demand high wages. Thats just how it is. If we dont want to pay over €100k for a player where exactly does Wenger expect to sign 2-3 players of "super super quality" from?

cathalio11

Marty McFly wrote: »

I know that but they got him for 14 million!!! Yet we wouldn't match that. No excuses for that.

14 million isn't the problem. I'm sure we would have matched that.

It's the 114k a week. Which as I said, is higher than any current Arsenal player and will give many players like Cazorla, Walcott, Wilshere and Koscielny a reason to look for more money; whether it is in the club or outside the club.

cson

Its all about perspective; we could have Santos and Denilson, who probably were on close to 120k, between them contributing absolutely nothing or we could have an incumbent Brazilian international proven at the highest level in Europe who if fit would probably start 30-40 games this season for the same price.

We're running a circus at the moment, and I'm not really finding it one bit funny.

greendom wrote: »

Wolfsburg are bankrolled by VW

I know that but they got him for 14 million!!! Yet we wouldn't match that. No excuses for that.

overpronator wrote: »

Would really love it a journalist had the courage to take Wenger to task over his transfer policy in the press conference today, really ask him the difficult questions rather than just listen to him philosophise like a University lecturer. He needs to articulate his plans to the supporters that he seem to so blatantly disregard.

Im a huge Wenger fan but if we do sign Flamini (only speculation I know) then it makes a mockery of every season ticket holder and he need to explain himself.

you know what i've noticed him doing recently is butting in before the reporter can finish the real question he's asking, talking over them even and then wenger takes it off direction too.

you'll only notice that if you see the full press conf. instead of just a clip of him speaking on SSN or on the website the title of the story broadly is about the answer

and even then its quite hard to actually notice what the journos are asking but i picked up on it at the emirates cup ones

the press conf. is on the player now, must watch it

Kirby

bad2dabone wrote: »

and which Bender? Lars or Sven? neither going to happen.

Both! The fans can call them the wonder twins!

AnCapaillMor

Probably end up with futurama's bender.

bad2dabone

Oranage2 wrote: »

Bender and suarez for sure - jotivic, Rooney possibly

you mean Jovetic who joined manchester city over a month ago?
and which Bender? Lars or Sven? neither going to happen.

gosplan

Until we sign someone, people will be furious with any player that might fit going to any club for any price.

That's how desperate the club are for players.

I'm still hoping for an all out splash the cash (Suarez) and two backup players, one for Mert and one for Arteta.

At the end of the summer, I'll simply say - Wenger you spanner, why did you risk so much by signing the backup's late.

Marty McFly wrote: »

It's not a star players wage anymore compare it to city's, united or Chelsea top earners it's not; )

Plus if we have a club like Wolfsburg outbidding us for players is a disgrace never mind his wage demands reports are saying we wouldn't match there bid. That is a disgrace no matter what spin you put on it it's not like they got him for astronomical money.

Wolfsburg are bankrolled by VW

bad2dabone wrote: »

well yeah i agree with this.

114k gbp a week is a big wage, its a star players wage.

he was on 60k euro at bayern I heard, so he's more than doubled his wages to go a lower placed bundesliga team.

I won't be going into Meltdown over losing this one.

It's not a star players wage anymore compare it to city's, united or Chelsea top earners it's not; )

Plus if we have a club like Wolfsburg outbidding us for players is a disgrace never mind his wage demands reports are saying we wouldn't match there bid. That is a disgrace no matter what spin you put on it it's not like they got him for astronomical money.

cathalio11

Mertesacker had an absolute shocked on Wednesday against Paraguay so that's not a good sign.
German fans apparently livid with him.