Warframe

Looks ok, don't think its the 3rd most popular game on steam tho.

Has it a pay2win model or is it fair enough ?

I have played about 10 hours so far and it is very good but a bit overwhelming in all the choices
so what would you suggest I invest in first as I bought the €10 pack in the summer sale but haven't used it yet?

Dammit I'm being suckered into this too...

So just installed this, is there any frame/weapon i should build towards that is good in later missions or anything i should avoid ? I picked the Excalibur frame to begin with.

Been seeing a few bugs, which is to be expected at this point.

Yesterday I was mowed down by an invisible assailant, the rifle fire was coming from close range in a big empty space, but I was on my own and could do nothing about it.
Then at the end of the mission the game froze on a blank screen (after mission success).
Could hear my guy running/shooting etc but nothing on screen and attempts to abort the mission failed cause it was already complete.... Had to shut down the game from the task manager to get out.

Finally it seems as thought the mission stats are off.
Every mission I kill at least half of my targets with a sword, but stats show 0 melee kills.

Gummy Panda wrote: »

so what do you do in warframe?

Is it pvp or do you do missions/episodes like borderlands/l4d?

You farm. It's a grindfest of a game, and it won't change unless they come with an actual idea for gameplay.

I think the game could be better if they incorporated more cover style combat into it.

At the moment you can just stand behind cover, but cant really use it.
For all the missions I've played so far it turns into a speed run with several players sprinting through the level, killing everything as they go with little regard towards protecting themselves...right now it's a game built for tanks with no need for stealth outside of solo missions.

I say make the enemy weapons stronger and allow players to use cover more effectively to bring a little more thought and strategy to the gameplay.

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Oh Jesus no! If they will add cover then the whole game will go to tits. We don't need another gears of war clone.
That's the point of this game - to be agile fast killing machine. You are a God damn samurai/ninja. When the last time you sow ninja behind chest high wall with a shotgun?!

+1 . I went Grandmaster on this months ago to support DE exactly because they were getting away from the cover/pause/shoot based crap that has dominated the market for the last few years. The tactical aspect is in sizing up a room as you are charging full speed into it and mapping/executing your maneuvers while being able to maintain fire on your targets. NOT semi-scripted-press-a-button-for-cover-hold-your-hand-because-we-devs-think-you-have-no-reflexes-skill-or-aim-crap . For that please pick military FPS xxxxxx on a console and be happy, nothing wrong with that if its what you want but PLEASE don't try and ruin one of the few games that dares to go back to when we actually needed more realtime skill to play at high speed.

Okay semi-rant off.

Some key things to remember (or some key things that took me a while to realise )

1. XP is shared within a 50m radius of the player that makes a kill. He gets 50% for the frame, 50% for the weapon making the kill. All other players in range get 25% each for Frame/Primary/Secondary/Melee. So don't think someone is stealing kills if they are dominating, everyone gets 100% it's just shared out a little differently. If you're bored try harder to keep up or accept you need to level some more to do so.

2. Soloing is great fun, when not with my Clanmates that's what I do most of the time but you will level more slowly (see point 1, mixed with higher Mob counts for more players).

3. The best way to farm for XP and MODS/resources comes when you open up some of the infested defense maps. Jupiter/IO is a good early one, then later Eres/Xini and a few others. Do not solo these, besides being harder based on point 2 you will gain less. Go in on a pub and you will level incredibly quickly (with a booster running I average 15 or so levels from scratch for frame and primary weapons with a relatively easy 30 wave run).

4. The best way to get credits is through Tower/Void missions. You need to get the keys as rewards (defense mostly) but they give a ton of credits as reward - and are also the only reliable source of the Prime weapons/frames (excl. those given as part of the various founder levels).

5. For weapon damage always boost base damage first (e.g. Serration/Hornet Strike etc.) as all other damage is based off the normal damage of the weapon with this multiplier applied. E.g. If you have a 100% serration on a 100point rifle your base dmg is now 200, adding a 90% fire mod brings this to 200+180(fire). The only other MOD that will multiply all dmg is a multi-shot (e.g Barrel diffusion). These fire extra rounds that cost you nothing for ammo. So if you have a 20 shot mag, with a 90% multi-shot on there by the time you empty the mag you should have fired ~38 shots. Put this onto something like the Torid or Flux rifle and it's insane.

6. Many weapons have inate abilities that are not shown on their in-game descriptions. The Wiki is your friend here. E.g. Armour-Ignore, bonus vs. certain types of enemies.

7. Armour-Ignore (native ability on some weapons) is NOT the same as Armour-Piercing dmg. AP adds to your dmg and isnt affected by armour, Armour-ignore applies all base dmg without being affected by armour. Basically since AP is always a smaller % of base armour-ignore is better, but since the former is a MOD and the latter an inate ability you don't have to choose - Ideally though have both. It's just a common misconception that AP doesn't help on something like a Boltor.

8. Always keep one of each type of mod card. Even if you think you will never use it you might end up wanting it a month down the line and waiting for the RNG gods to smile upon you.


My $.02