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jays i bet pat kennys bricking himself !



not to mention the eh, niche, area of their shows. the only reason i know Iradio exists is because me smart phone tuned it in automatically along with everything else it could find.

only 10% of our population goes to trinity or UCD.

Yet those institutions make up ALL our media.

constitutionus wrote: »

only 10% of our population goes to trinity or UCD.

Yet those institutions make up ALL our media.

Not exactly since DCU run the main journalism course in the country,

Judgement Day wrote: »

You're a great man for labelling people so why don't you say what you mean instead of hiding behind words? Anyway, no need to reply.

I'll reply if I like, but said all I want to say.

GSF wrote: »

Not exactly since DCU run the main journalism course in the country,

which would be relevent if RTE and their ilk actually hired their broadcasters on that basis.

the premier current affairs broadcaster in the country is pat kenny.

his only qualifications is as a chemical engineer.

ditto joe duffy. social studies trinity.

all sharon ni bheolain ever did was teaching with a degree in ancient irish , and dobbo started off in pirate radio !

google half the big names in irish media and youll be hard pushed to find someone thats actually qualified to do that job.

but ya do find an awfull lot of trinity/ucd heads. aine lawlor, claire byrne , miriam o callaghan. ok im guilty of using a trope of saying "all", and im sorry for that , but these are the heavy hitters of irish media that dominate the airwaves and if you look at newstalk et all its not all that different.

sarah carey ,sean moncreif, marc coleman . list goes on.

Judgement Day wrote: »

You're adding all sorts of interpretations to what I said, and I have nothing against people standing up for their rights but not when they are just off the boat. 13 years = a wet weekend in my book.

I asked questions on the back of some of your statements that I felt weren't based on fact but on your own presumptions (also the fact that "native" Irish sounds like a stupid phrase from 'Gangs of New York' I took issue with)

P.s. I might also add you cherry-picked the census figures yourself there to suit your argument.

Judgement Day wrote: »

Given that , by official reckoning 17% of the currentpopulation were born outside the country (+ their children), + all those who are here illegally, how long will it be before the loony left/politically correct brigade starting demanding that 20%+ members of the Dail should be from those born outside the country; or that 20% of the Gardai/Army etc. should be also drawn from the immigrant community. You really think that that is sustainable? Do you have any upper limit in mind to the percentage of the Irish population that should be made up from immigrants?

In the last census 87.4% of people identified "Irish" as their ethnicity and 1 in 3 emigrants to Ireland had a college degree or higher. That doesn't sound like a recipe for a disaster, especially if proper policies are pursued and unfounded xenophobic fears don't create a "them" versus "us" society.

Judgement Day wrote: »

The UK, which due to its colonial history has had large scale immigration since the 1950's, had only reached an 11% foreign born population by 2010 and yet Ireland managed to reach 17%+ in about 10 years. Clearly we are a much more welcoming country or is it, like so much else here, something that is completely out of control?

Unlike the UK we do not have systematic issues with integration so far like in cities such as Bristol and Leicester. Therefore we are handling things well based on all available evidence. (Bar of course widespread anti-semitism in Limerick in the 1930s sadly, which hopefully we won't return to.)

Judgement Day wrote: »

....how long will it be before the loony left/politically correct brigade starting demanding that 20%+ members of the Dail should be from those born outside the country; or that 20% of the Gardai/Army etc. should be also drawn from the immigrant community. You really think that that is sustainable? Do you have any upper limit in mind to the percentage of the Irish population that should be made up from immigrants?

You do seem to have things very well mapped out here. Maybe you have insider information or evidence that you could base these things actually happening on?

And if they did happen, so what?

Surely that would mean we would have more Irish citizens of "non-native" ethnicity (to use your lexicon) creating greater involvement and integration in Irish society with some of our newer visitors? Is that something to be feared "if" it happened? Sounds like a good way of avoiding the apocalypse that you seem to fear is coming...

Judgement Day wrote: »

13 years = a wet weekend in my book.

If you think 13 years is a "wet weekend" - fair enough, that's your opinion, others may differ. I personally would find nearly a decade and a half a particularly long weekend (especially if it was wet, then it would really drag....)

Judgement Day wrote: »

PS - I don't listen to Dil's programme but have caught snatches of it from time to time; but given Newstalk's annoying habit of interviewing their own radio personalities it's hard to avoid her as she's a regular on "The Right Hook".

I agree it is annoying habit to interview your own personalities, but that's not a problem exclusive to Newstalk or Dil, and luckily there's a lot of variety in what's available live or even via podcast.

I would also say that people could fully criticize her show, presentation or even her viewpoints, but there seems to be a lot of presumption and false equivalencies in your argument regarding Ireland and immigrants.

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

But according to hotmail.com criticising her 'show presentation or even her viewpoints' is proof positive of racism....

A lot of the times, yes, it is proof of racism.

People's comments on this site show it.

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

But according to hotmail.com criticising her 'show presentation or even her viewpoints' is proof positive of racism....

1. I'm not hotmail.com and

2. I agree the show isn't that polished, then again it is on at 8.00pm on a Saturday.

I'm taking issue with some of the weird mental leaps people are making about a relatively obscure show being evidence of some sort of left wing agenda or immigration issue bringing destruction on Erin. My eyebrows also get raised when terms like "native Irish" get thrown around and that certain people in society shouldn't be allowed to talk about their rights. I think anyone who says that should happen should be very detailed about why a fundamental right should be taken away from someone.

As someone pointed out above it is interesting how many people take issue with the content of an obscure show and Dil's role as a talking head on these issues in Ireland.

elvis jones wrote: »

Add to that, i believe, the view that if you're not a black, gay, traveller then shame on you !

Really? Could you cite a specific example where she implicitly or explicitly said this? I wouldn't agree with that if she said it either...and it seems at odds with her general message of inclusiveness in a society is a good thing.

@ Magpie - I never posted what you quoted me as posting???

Originally Posted by Bits_n_Bobs View Post
Add to that, i believe, the view that if you're not a black, gay, traveller then shame on you !


And my criticism was pointed at hotmail - not you.

salonfire wrote: »

Is there any parking at Newstalk? I get the impression, not knowing the area, that Newstalk is in the city centre and only accessible by public transport realistically. Does anyone here know the area of Briggs Lane?

Will PK be getting to work on Dublin Bus versus parking out at Montrose..

Its Diggs Lane, i think. It's right beside Stephen's Green SC. There's another multi storey carpark on the other side.

What's going on? No Tom Dunne!! Will Jonathan Healy have to be even more dramatic if half an hour is knocked off his show? Does PK know what he's letting himself in for?? I can't wait for the Friday Right Hook with him, George and Bobby Kerr....Pat gives me the impression that he doesn't suffer fools gladly....maybe he won't be able to see the wood for the trees....

Dave! wrote: »

Global Village is the worst show on radio. Terrible.

yeah that tinita tikerum is a head wrecker