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Wilberto · 29-07-2013 08:17PM

Henry McKean's slot was particularly painful today. Biscuits. FFS. What is the point of his slot? Seriously. I know it's only 5 minutes but it was still five minutes of radio trying to make my ears bleed.

Larbre34 · 29-07-2013 08:28PM

Wilberto wrote: »

Henry McKean's slot was particularly painful today. Biscuits. FFS. What is the point of his slot? Seriously. I know it's only 5 minutes but it was still five minutes of radio trying to make my ears bleed.

Does he go to methadone clinics for all his vox pops? The skobe who has a liking for visssscount biscuits was taking the bleedin biscuit

kneemos · 29-07-2013 08:34PM

Wilberto wrote: »

Henry McKean's slot was particularly painful today. Biscuits. FFS. What is the point of his slot? Seriously. I know it's only 5 minutes but it was still five minutes of radio trying to make my ears bleed.

The two boys suggesting they go to Lidl for their bisbuits was quite amusing,but yeah he's usually rubbish.

Judgement Day · 29-07-2013 09:11PM

Magpie87 wrote: »

What are the 'native' Irish? Celts? Vikings? Normans? Planters? Very hard to define that. How would you define what a "native" Irish person is?

Also how is there "clearly" going to be a problem? That presumption seems to based on fear more than anything else?

I'm with Dil, if someone wants to come to this country and has contributed and stayed long enough in this beknighted kip through the bad times, good stuff!

Sorry, I forgot that Ireland is different from other countries, we don't have racism......and 'native' Irish, to me, is somebody whose family have lived here for generations and not here a wet weekend and bleating about their rights.

JonathanAnon · 29-07-2013 10:16PM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot that Ireland is different from other countries, we don't have racism......

I wish George had followed through with his point... "Nobody asked you to come here"... She spends two hours every Saturday night giving out about how bad things are in Ireland ... Why doesnt she just leave if it's so bad?

If it rained on her, she'd say the Irish weather was being racist..

Jack Kyle · 29-07-2013 10:21PM

That "Di Vikrama Singh" person makes me wanna puke.

All she ever does is moan about Ireland. Why doesn't she just f..k off then?

Today she's moaning about how difficult it is to get Irish citizenship and how it costs €175 to apply. Dare I say it...if an applicant has an issue with paying €175, we probably don't want them here.

And how any producer thought that it would be a good idea to put a lesbian immigrant who can hardly speak English on the airwaves beggars belief.

Wilberto · 29-07-2013 11:09PM

Jack Kyle wrote: »

That "Di Vikrama Singh" person makes me wanna puke.

All she ever does is moan about Ireland. Why doesn't she just f..k off then?

Today she's moaning about how difficult it is to get Irish citizenship and how it costs €175 to apply. Dare I say it...if an applicant has an issue with paying €175, we probably don't want them here.

And how any producer thought that it would be a good idea to put a lesbian immigrant who can hardly speak English on the airwaves beggars belief.

Hardly speaks English?? She speaks better English than a lot of Irish "natives" ((May be a gross exaggeration!! :P)). You can criticise her, rightly, for a lot of things but, to be fair, I don't think her grasp of the English language is one of them. That's just my opinion anyway.

Profiler · 29-07-2013 11:19PM

Jack Kyle wrote: »

That "Di Vikrama Singh" person makes me wanna puke.

All she ever does is moan about Ireland. Why doesn't she just f..k off then?

Today she's moaning about how difficult it is to get Irish citizenship and how it costs €175 to apply. Dare I say it...if an applicant has an issue with paying €175, we probably don't want them here.

And how any producer thought that it would be a good idea to put a lesbian immigrant who can hardly speak English on the airwaves beggars belief.

I had to check on line before I posted, because I've heard only a few editions of Global Village in my time. That being said, my first question is what has her nationhood or sexuality got to do with anything?

That she can get a broadcasting job hosting a show here in Ireland is a good thing, she has to be one of the few females hosting a show never mind the fact that she's not Irish

Moreover, an outsiders view on Ireland is a good thing, just look at what happened us in the Celtic tiger days when we Irish thought we were masters of all we saw (or borrowed from the bank to but) and we didn't pay anywhere near enough attention to those outside of Ireland who were warning us of the dangers of what we were doing.

hotmail.com · 29-07-2013 11:46PM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot that Ireland is different from other countries, we don't have racism......and 'native' Irish, to me, is somebody whose family have lived here for generations and not here a wet weekend and bleating about their rights.

I hope the many thousands of Irish that are abroad don't encounter people like you.

Magpie87 · 30-07-2013 12:14AM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot that Ireland is different from other countries, we don't have racism......and 'native' Irish, to me, is somebody whose family have lived here for generations and not here a wet weekend and bleating about their rights.

Where did I say we don't have racism? We clearly do... as Dil has pointed out in the past. So you're saying you agree with her assessment but she shouldn't be the one to say it as she has only been here a "wet week"? (Dil has been here 13 years)

So people shouldn't "bleat" about their rights? Is that only immigrants, asylum seekers and other non "native Irish"? That sounds like the ingredients for a healthy society.

How does someone who was born in Ireland of Vietanese parents have any less of a say in this country than anyone else. How far do I need to trace back my lineage before I'm allowed to "bleat" about my rights?

People don't have to like or listen to Dil, but her opinions are perfectly healthy for Irish society and she seems to have ensconced herself in Irish life. This a good thing. If you don't like her as a broadcaster, well then turn her off (her show is on 8 O'Clock on a Saturday it's quite easy to miss if you don't like it.)

hotmail.com · 30-07-2013 12:20AM

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I wish George had followed through with his point... "Nobody asked you to come here"... She spends two hours every Saturday night giving out about how bad things are in Ireland ... Why doesnt she just leave if it's so bad?

If it rained on her, she'd say the Irish weather was being racist..

She does it to try to get through to people like you.

I really fail to understand why you would listen to her if you so intensely disagree with her. Not only that, but if she is wrong about the scale of racism in Ireland, then what's the big deal? Why have you got a problem with her talking about racism? The programme is clearly intended to talk about minority issues, something which you've clearly no time for. So turn the radio off.

Swan Curry · 30-07-2013 02:25AM

I do sometimes wonder whether Dil's show is part of some plan by DOB to try to create a living embodiment of the "looney-lefty" strawman that other Newstalk presenters like Coleman love to hate.She's got quite far-left views,but somehow has a show on the most right-wing station in Ireland?

I wish they'd put someone better in Dil's place.I imagine I'd agree with a lot of her views,but she just can't articulate them intelligently without moaning.

Calhoun · 30-07-2013 03:58AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

She does it to try to get through to people like you.

I really fail to understand why you would listen to her if you so intensely disagree with her. Not only that, but if she is wrong about the scale of racism in Ireland, then what's the big deal? Why have you got a problem with her talking about racism? The programme is clearly intended to talk about minority issues, something which you've clearly no time for. So turn the radio off.

When she turns up on drive time its very hard not to listen to her. What exactly is she trying to get through to people how horrible we are because we are Irish?

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with her or anyone having the right to discuss racism on the radio or other forms of media. However delivery is critical on such sensitive topics, when you are a condescending know it all who is constantly badmouthing the country you live in you should not expect to be welcome or liked for that fact.

Nobody should be given a get out of jail free card just because they are talking about a minority subject. The presenter for this program should have been selected carefully if its job was to introduce minority concerns to broader audience, the message is currently lost in translation with the current host as folk switch off when she starts her usual anti-Irish spiel.

Judgement Day · 30-07-2013 06:18AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

I hope the many thousands of Irish that are abroad don't encounter people like you.

Care to try and explain what you mean? If, however, you mean what I think.. In my experience any Irish I've met abroad emigrate to improve their lot and keep their heads down, work hard to earn money and are not bothered with rocking the boat/biting the hand that feeds them. Dil, and people like her, think they can emigrate to a country and then change it to suit themselves rather than trying to fit in with the traditions of their adopted country.

Judgement Day · 30-07-2013 06:36AM

Magpie87 wrote: »

Where did I say we don't have racism? We clearly do... as Dil has pointed out in the past. So you're saying you agree with her assessment but she shouldn't be the one to say it as she has only been here a "wet week"? (Dil has been here 13 years)

So people shouldn't "bleat" about their rights? Is that only immigrants, asylum seekers and other non "native Irish"? That sounds like the ingredients for a healthy society.

How does someone who was born in Ireland of Vietanese parents have any less of a say in this country than anyone else. How far do I need to trace back my lineage before I'm allowed to "bleat" about my rights?

People don't have to like or listen to Dil, but her opinions are perfectly healthy for Irish society and she seems to have ensconced herself in Irish life. This a good thing. If you don't like her as a broadcaster, well then turn her off (her show is on 8 O'Clock on a Saturday it's quite easy to miss if you don't like it.)

You're adding all sorts of interpretations to what I said, and I have nothing against people standing up for their rights but not when they are just off the boat. 13 years = a wet weekend in my book.

Given that, by official reckoning 17% of the current population were born outside the country (+ their children), + all those who are here illegally, how long will it be before the loony left/politically correct brigade starting demanding that 20%+ members of the Dail should be from those born outside the country; or that 20% of the Gardai/Army etc. should be also drawn from the immigrant community. You really think that that is sustainable? Do you have any upper limit in mind to the percentage of the Irish population that should be made up from immigrants?

The UK, which due to its colonial history has had large scale immigration since the 1950's, had only reached an 11% foreign born population by 2010 and yet Ireland managed to reach 17%+ in about 10 years. Clearly we are a much more welcoming country or is it, like so much else here, something that is completely out of control?

PS - I don't listen to Dil's programme but have caught snatches of it from time to time; but given Newstalk's annoying habit of interviewing their own radio personalities it's hard to avoid her as she's a regular on "The Right Hook".

hotmail.com · 30-07-2013 11:34AM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Care to try and explain what you mean? If, however, you mean what I think.. In my experience any Irish I've met abroad emigrate to improve their lot and keep their heads down, work hard to earn money and are not bothered with rocking the boat/biting the hand that feeds them. Dil, and people like her, think they can emigrate to a country and then change it to suit themselves rather than trying to fit in with the traditions of their adopted country.

Again I hope the many thousands of Irish people abroad don't encounter people like you.

Dil simply brings to light issues that ethnic minorities, no other broadcaster does it.

And some of the comments on here have just confirmed Dil's views.

hotmail.com · 30-07-2013 11:36AM

Judgement Day wrote: »

You're adding all sorts of interpretations to what I said, and I have nothing against people standing up for their rights but not when they are just off the boat. 13 years = a wet weekend in my book.

Given that, by official reckoning 17% of the current population were born outside the country (+ their children), + all those who are here illegally, how long will it be before the loony left/politically correct brigade starting demanding that 20%+ members of the Dail should be from those born outside the country; or that 20% of the Gardai/Army etc. should be also drawn from the immigrant community. You really think that that is sustainable? Do you have any upper limit in mind to the percentage of the Irish population that should be made up from immigrants?

The UK, which due to its colonial history has had large scale immigration since the 1950's, had only reached an 11% foreign born population by 2010 and yet Ireland managed to reach 17%+ in about 10 years. Clearly we are a much more welcoming country or is it, like so much else here, something that is completely out of control?

Given that thousands of Irish people are emigrating at the moment, I find your comments baffling to say the least.

hotmail.com · 30-07-2013 11:39AM

Calhoun wrote: »

When she turns up on drive time its very hard not to listen to her. What exactly is she trying to get through to people how horrible we are because we are Irish?

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with her or anyone having the right to discuss racism on the radio or other forms of media. However delivery is critical on such sensitive topics, when you are a condescending know it all who is constantly badmouthing the country you live in you should not expect to be welcome or liked for that fact.

Nobody should be given a get out of jail free card just because they are talking about a minority subject. The presenter for this program should have been selected carefully if its job was to introduce minority concerns to broader audience, the message is currently lost in translation with the current host as folk switch off when she starts her usual anti-Irish spiel.

She's entitled to her opinions and to express them.

She's obviously touched a nerve with a lot of people, so maybe the truth hurts?

Bits_n_Bobs · 30-07-2013 11:57AM

Swan Curry wrote: »

a show on the most right-wing station in Ireland?

How is Newstalk 'the most right wing station in Ireland'? Mark Coleman can have some right-wing opinions (if you define 'right wing' as occasional public service bashing), but the rest of the presenters seem pretty middle of the road to me?

The problem with Dill is she appears to be a one issue broadcaster and that one issue is 'Minority Rights'. It's an agenda that runs through everything she has to say and gets tedious quickly. I tune out whenever I hear her as I find people lecturing me with an overt and obvious agenda boring.

hotmail.com · 30-07-2013 12:03PM

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

How is Newstalk 'the most right wing station in Ireland'? Mark Coleman can have some right-wing opinions (if you define 'right wing' as occasional public service bashing), but the rest of the presenters seem pretty middle of the road to me?

The problem with Dill is she appears to be a one issue broadcaster and that one issue is 'Minority Rights'. It's an agenda that runs through everything she has to say and gets tedious quickly. I tune out whenever I hear her as I find people lecturing me with an overt and obvious agenda boring.

The programme is there to specifically deal with minority issues - it's called Global Village?

Did you not know that?

Two hours a week on a Saturday night isn't exactly a high profile slot.

Bits_n_Bobs · 30-07-2013 12:10PM

Yup, it's on once a week in a crap slot, presumably so Newstalk can claim some level of social service broadcasting to meet some obscure license requirement and I find it predictable and boring. Obviously that's racist of me.

I have a similar problem with the properly right-wing Yank who appears on Hook - he's predictable and therefore boring. This obviously confirms me as bigoted against all foreign-non-national-not-Irish people. Probably sexist too.

hotmail.com · 30-07-2013 12:16PM

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

Yup, it's on once a week in a crap slot, presumably so Newstalk can claim some level of social service broadcasting to meet some obscure license requirement and I find it predictable and boring. Obviously that's racist of me.

I have a similar problem with the properly right-wing Yank who appears on Hook - he's predictable and therefore boring. This obviously confirms me as bigoted against all foreign-non-national-not-Irish people. Probably sexist too.

Your last post seemed to imply that you didn't know it was a minority driven programme.

But it now seems that you did know about that, and that you just dislike that. Great.

Loafing Oaf · 30-07-2013 12:24PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

She's entitled to her opinions and to express them.

She's obviously touched a nerve with a lot of people, so maybe the truth hurts?

Indeed, I'm constantly taken aback at how much ire this obscure show attracts on boards. Large chunks of NT's schedule are pretty much forgettable filler, why get so work up about this one programme?

Bits_n_Bobs · 30-07-2013 12:26PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Your last post seemed to imply that you didn't know it was a minority driven programme.

But it now seems that you did know about that, and that you just dislike that. Great.

I have zero issue with a one issue program. I quite enjoy the science slot on Newstalk and the history one was pretty good too (not too sure if it's still running).

What I do not enjoy is when a presenter has an obvious agenda and is provided with a platform purely to propagate that agenda. I prefer a presenter who attempts to provide a balanced debate or discussion.

Calling it a 'minority driven program' reinforces your own agreement with Dill's opinions. I prefer to listen to someone who can present both sides of an argument in a reasonably coherent manner and perhaps even effect a change in my thinking. My reaction to being lectured at by someone is to tell them to **** off.

Listening to someone purely because you agree with what they have to say is rather small minded.

Calhoun · 30-07-2013 12:48PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

She's entitled to her opinions and to express them.

She's obviously touched a nerve with a lot of people, so maybe the truth hurts?

People are entitled to not like her opinion or herself, point being if she turns up on a drive time program with her usual have a go at Ireland don't be too shocked when people express their dislike.

The alternative to her touching a nerve is that members of the minority she represents are defending her, maybe they need to ask the question why they feel the need to do that?

If we agree there is merit in having a program like global village which i think a number of folks on thread agree with, why is there such a focus on Dil?

spank_inferno · 30-07-2013 01:11PM

Anyone notice that Jonathan on the lunch shoe changes his accent depending on who he is speaking too?

He was just speaking to Ted Walsh..... Be-the-hokey!

hotmail.com · 30-07-2013 02:24PM

Calhoun wrote: »

People are entitled to not like her opinion or herself, point being if she turns up on a drive time program with her usual have a go at Ireland don't be too shocked when people express their dislike.

The alternative to her touching a nerve is that members of the minority she represents are defending her, maybe they need to ask the question why they feel the need to do that?

If we agree there is merit in having a program like global village which i think a number of folks on thread agree with, why is there such a focus on Dil?

What?

hotmail.com · 30-07-2013 02:27PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Indeed, I'm constantly taken aback at how much ire this obscure show attracts on boards. Large chunks of NT's schedule are pretty much forgettable filler, why get so work up about this one programme?

It seems to me that only racists, sexists and homophobs listens to her programme and can't wait for Dil to trip up or make a mistake. They're pretty sad.

PopePalpatine · 30-07-2013 02:40PM

Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »

How is Newstalk 'the most right wing station in Ireland'? Mark Coleman can have some right-wing opinions (if you define 'right wing' as occasional public service bashing).

He's very right-wing on social issues like gay marriage, abortion and Church/State relations, going by his rants in the Sindo and his failed "National Alliance" party.

Like with Global Village, there is a market in Ireland for his show.

constitutionus · 30-07-2013 02:47PM

just out of interest are there any other black broadcasters in this country ?

not that i really give a toss its a tad odd considering the DFurr PC consensus on emigration that FUP all got into their profession.

RTE would seem to fit right in with the KKK with their demographics

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