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Football Championship Thread 2013

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  • #1922
    Nialler15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Nialler15


    SM746 wrote: »
    Maybe your correct but can you answer me one thing? when is last time a Dgl player concussed a fellow player or put a player in hospital from actions on a gaelic pitch?


    Ridiculous question. There was nothing intentional. Gaelic despite the refereeing is a physical sport. These things happen. Get on with it. It wasnt an attack on Mark Mc Hugh.


  • #1923
    Seans_Username
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭Seans_Username


    SM746 wrote: »
    Maybe your correct but can you answer me one thing? when is last time a Dgl player concussed a fellow player or put a player in hospital from actions on a gaelic pitch?

    Wow. Are you actually accusing the Monaghan player (who went for a 50-50 ball) of intentionally putting Mark McHugh in hospital?


  • #1924
    Nailz
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    SM746 wrote: »
    Maybe your correct but can you answer me one thing? when is last time a Dgl player concussed a fellow player or put a player in hospital from actions on a gaelic pitch?
    Have you seen the challenge in question? The way you're going on about it you either haven't or are deluded into thinking that McHugh was intentionally clattered, it was a clear 50/50 competition for the ball, if it happened the other way around you's be saying the same thing.

    Mark McHugh is unfortunate to sustain a bad knock from it, but if you're claiming that the challenge was anything but an attempt to win the ball then I just have to say you're sprouting nonsense.


  • #1925
    SM746
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    Nialler15 wrote: »
    Ridiculous question. There was nothing intentional. Gaelic despite the refereeing is a physical sport. These things happen. Get on with it. It wasnt an attack on Mark Mc Hugh.

    im just pointing out the fact that I think the physicality against Donegal is far and above anything we've directed at other teams. Just my opinion


  • #1926
    SM746
    Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭SM746


    Nialler15 wrote: »
    Ridiculous question. There was nothing intentional. Gaelic despite the refereeing is a physical sport. These things happen. Get on with it. It wasnt an attack on Mark Mc Hugh.

    im just pointing out the fact that I think the physicality against Donegal is far and above anything we've directed at other teams. Just my opinion


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  • #1927
    aveytare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭aveytare


    SM746 wrote: »
    Maybe your correct but can you answer me one thing? when is last time a Dgl player concussed a fellow player or put a player in hospital from actions on a gaelic pitch?

    Joe McMahon in 2011 for one. Leo McLoone came on, left McMahon (who'd just recovered from a broken jaw) concussed then McLoone was brought off again.


  • #1928
    naughto
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    SM746 wrote: »
    Maybe your correct but can you answer me one thing? when is last time a Dgl player concussed a fellow player or put a player in hospital from actions on a gaelic pitch?
    did u not see the accident the two players where going for it full belt and both came of the worse for it,the monagh mans eye is f1ucked and the dgl player is in hospital.
    if the monaghan man went to do him do you not think he would have protected him self better it was a 50/50 ball and the donggal lad got the worst of it.
    if it was the other way around i bet there would be nothing said about it.


  • #1929
    SM746
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    aveytare wrote: »
    Joe McMahon in 2011 for one. Leo McLoone came on, left McMahon (who'd just recovered from a broken jaw) concussed then McLoone was brought off again.

    Thanks I genuinely wanted to know.


  • #1930
    Nialler15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Nialler15


    SM746 wrote: »
    im just pointing out the fact that I think the physicality against Donegal is far and above anything we've directed at other teams. Just my opinion

    Well then you boys from Donegal arent as tough and hard as you would like to think. Nothing in that tackle only two players going hard at it. Was going to say two men but Mc Guinness and Lacey with their comments sound like old women.


  • #1931
    Smartly Dressed
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    The challenge on Mark McHugh was to win a 50/50 ball?

    I didn't think it was possible to be that naive.


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  • #1932
    K-9
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    Pighead wrote: »
    Who on earth were saying that Kerry were out of the top 6? They've never been out of the top 4 in the bookies odds for the Sam Maguire all year. There still is an argument that Tyrone are not top 6.

    What argument is that? I'm not that impressed by them, but with them beating Kildare who else is there to challenge them for a top 6 place?

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  • #1933
    InchicoreDude
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    Smartly Dressed wrote: »
    The challenge on Mark McHugh was to win a 50/50 ball?

    I didn't think it was possible to be that naive.

    In what way was it not a 50/50 ball????:confused:


  • #1934
    SM746
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    Getting attacked alot for expressing an opinion. Do you honestly not think 3 concussions in 3 games is extremely high? And no I do not think he meant to hospitalise him. Just stating I think the physicality against Dgl is a lot harder than what we have hit other teams with


  • #1935
    Nialler15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Nialler15


    Smartly Dressed wrote: »
    The challenge on Mark McHugh was to win a 50/50 ball?

    I didn't think it was possible to be that naive.

    To have any credibility in this argument you really should have hidden your location.


  • #1936
    Timmyctc
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    This is a genuine question but does the tackle have to be shoulder-to-shoulder or what? I only saw the Mc Hugh challenge on the day and it didn't look like that from where we were standing.


  • #1937
    aveytare
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭aveytare


    InchicoreDude wrote: »
    In what way was it not a 50/50 ball????:confused:

    I'm a Tyrone fan and we're no angels and have struggled against Donegal, but I thought Gollogly made very little effort to actually get the ball, unlike McHugh.


  • #1938
    Nialler15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Nialler15


    SM746 wrote: »
    Getting attacked alot for expressing an opinion. Do you honestly not think 3 concussions in 3 games is extremely high? And no I do not think he meant to hospitalise him. Just stating I think the physicality against Dgl is a lot harder than what we have hit other teams with

    Who were the players concussed other than Mc Hugh? Did they play yesterday?


  • #1939
    Nialler15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Nialler15


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    This is a genuine question but does the tackle have to be shoulder-to-shoulder or what? I only saw the Mc Hugh challenge on the day and it didn't look like that from where we were standing.

    Shoulder to shoulder and a tackle are two very differnt things. They were both going for the ball...


  • #1940
    Timmyctc
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    Looking at this imo it only looks like Mc Hugh has eyes for the ball and yer man has eyes for Mc Hugh but maybe thats my inner Donegal speaking.



  • #1941
    Lemlin
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    Nialler15 wrote: »
    Were Meath in the 90's not just a physcial team? Mayo came looking for a fight that day and got their arses handed to them. Go back to 91 Meath werent dirty or cynical. They had some serious footballers they had no need to be. Flynn, Stafford, O Rourke....and some hard men like Lyons Mc Entee etc.

    The difference between those teams and the ulster teams is that the Ulster teams have n interest in football. Donegal the All Ireland Champions in their last two first halves have scored 5 points.....( open to correction if thats wrong) That tells a lot of the story. Stop the opposition play and we will score the minimum.

    Yes its winning football but where is the spectacle?

    Have a watch of the '96 All Ireland semi against Tyrone. Meath were physical but they were also cynical.

    Tyrone and Donegal have serious footballers so I don't see where you pull this line about no interest in football from. You're picking two Donegal games there. What about the matches they annihilated Kildare and Cork in last year? Why not pick those? Those were fine attacking spectacles to me. There was nothing wrong with the All Ireland final either.

    Ulster teams also have some of the best footballers in the country. Cavanagh and O'Neill were a joy to watch yesterday.

    Gaelic football isn't all about scoring. It's about hard hits, tactics and knowledge now.

    People talk about Dublin now but they tend to forget that in 2010 Dublin went to an All Ireland semi final basically using only two players, O'Gara and Brogan, in the opposition half.

    Dublin have strength in depth now and good forwards so they can play to their attacking strength. In 2010 they didn't have that and just like other teams they played to their strengths.


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  • #1942
    Timmyctc
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    Nialler15 wrote: »
    Shoulder to shoulder and a tackle are two very differnt things. They were both going for the ball...

    Aye but he leads with his shoulder.


  • #1943
    Nialler15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Nialler15


    Lemlin wrote: »
    Have a watch of the '96 All Ireland semi against Tyrone. Meath were physical but they were also cynical.

    Tyrone and Donegal have serious footballers so I don't see where you pull this line about no interest in football from. You're picking two Donegal games there. What about the matches they annihilated Kildare and Cork in last year? Why not pick those? Those were fine attacking spectacles to me. There was nothing wrong with the All Ireland final either.

    Ulster teams also have some of the best footballers in the country. Cavanagh and O'Neill were a joy to watch yesterday.

    Gaelic football isn't all about scoring. It's about hard hits, tactics and knowledge now.


    People talk about Dublin now but they tend to forget that in 2010 Dublin went to an All Ireland semi final basically using only two players, O'Gara and Brogan, in the opposition half.

    Dublin have strength in depth now and good forwards so they can play to their attacking strength. In 2010 they didn't have that and just like other teams they played to their strengths.
    Did you just say O Gara? Ronan never played for the Dubs. As for Eoin...he is a big waste of space.

    Donegal V Kildare??? Kildare have really shown how good they are this year now havent they.

    As for football being about hard hits? I wish it was. The GAA have taken all physicality from the game. A simple bit of contact now is a free.


  • #1944
    yop
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    That wasn't a cynical challenge, hit with the shoulder but no malice.

    I think we have heard plenty over the last few years of teams who have/are cynical, Meath, Tyrone, Donegal, Mayo, Dublin.
    I'm sure Kerry have nightmares that they weren't cynical in letting the Dubs run through them in the AI final 2 years ago.

    Every team is going to feel they aren't been treated fairly, its part of it, but at the same time lads trying to claim that their own team aren't cynical is daft.


  • #1945
    STB
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    Lemlin wrote: »
    You think cynical play was introduced by Ulster teams? The first cynical team I remember was Meath in the 90s but I'm sure there were others before.

    It has certainly been embraced!
    Lemlin wrote: »
    Don't believe all the crap Spillane spouts because he isn't happy that his beloved Kerry struggled in the 00s to beat Tyrone. I've heard people often say Spillane's Kerry were no angels. I'm not old enough to remember them play.

    Pay less attention to what other people say. Pat Spillane for all his cute hooooer punditry was an excellent player.
    I can see the irony though in Ciaran Whelan lecturing on cynical play in TSG. A man who didn't even make it past the throw in before he gave Crawford a dig one year.

    That will be 2 time All Star Ciaran Whelan to you. A man, definitely and not one you wanted marking you. A physical force to be reckoned with.

    He wasn't lecturing either, he made the point that there was a degree of puff PR in it on the run in to the crucial part of this years All Ireland Final. McGuinness's party political broadcast on cynical man marking was laughable given his own interpretation of how gaelic football should be played defeated .


  • #1946
    SM746
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    Nialler15 wrote: »
    Who were the players concussed other than Mc Hugh? Did they play yesterday?

    Genuinely dont know Nialler but im just taking McGuinness word for it. Im sure they were but were taking into account the last 3 games going back as far as Down which was over a month ago or maybe Tyrone if he was ignoring the Lsois game in his equation. plenty of time to recover since recovery time im guessing is 10-14 days?? Cud be way of the mark on recovery time there


  • #1947
    Nialler15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Nialler15


    STB wrote: »
    It has certainly been embraced!



    Pay less attention to what other people say. Pat Spillane for all his cute hoooor punditry was an excellent player.



    That will be 2 time All Star Ciaran Whelan to you. A man, definitely and not one you wanted marking you. A physical force to be reckoned with.

    He wasn't lecturing either, he made the point that there was a degree of puff PR in it on the run in to the crucial part of this years All Ireland Final. McGuinness's party political broadcast on cynical man marking was laughable given his own interpretation of how his own interpretation of how gaelic football should be played defeated .


    Ah give over about Ciaran Whelan. He was the coward I think Mc Geeney was on about. The only time Whelan would hit you was when you couldnt see him coming. He was the king of the cheapshots. The same fella said if he was from kerry he would have 5 or 6 All Irelands. If he was from Kerry he wouldnt have made the county panel.


  • #1948
    Lemlin
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    Nialler15 wrote: »
    Did you just say O Gara? Ronan never played for the Dubs. As for Eoin...he is a big waste of space.

    Donegal V Kildare??? Kildare have really shown how good they are this year now havent they.

    As for football being about hard hits? I wish it was. The GAA have taken all physicality from the game. A simple bit of contact now is a free.

    You've obviously lost this one because you're making very little sense now.

    You made a point re Donegal not scoring much. I pointed to the All Ireland quarters and semi last year where they annihilated teams in high scoring games.

    You obviously didn't watch Donegal Monaghan if you think hard hits aren't allowed. Monaghan Cavan was also a game full of them.


  • #1949
    aveytare
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    STB wrote: »



    That will be 2 time All Star Ciaran Whelan to you. A man, definitely and not one you wanted marking you. A physical force to be reckoned with.

    Oh come on, I've nothing against the guy but Whelan was a dirty player - ask Ronan McGarrity, Crawford etc.


  • #1950
    Poor_old_gill
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    How anyone who has the McGees in their team can say something like that is ridiculous- late challenges, knees in the head, handbags off the ball- come on Jimmy you're making a fool of yourself


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  • #1951
    InchicoreDude
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    Nialler15 wrote: »
    Who were the players concussed other than Mc Hugh? Did they play yesterday?

    I would have liked to have seen these. As we can on here, the McHugh one is argubale as some people see it as a dirty hit, others see it as a 50/50 ball.

    It would be interesting to see the other incidents. Players can easily get concussed through accidental collisions like we saw in the Kilkenny game today.

    Dont understand why the Sunday Game didnt show clips of them.


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