SM746 wrote: » Maybe your correct but can you answer me one thing? when is last time a Dgl player concussed a fellow player or put a player in hospital from actions on a gaelic pitch?
Nialler15 wrote: » Ridiculous question. There was nothing intentional. Gaelic despite the refereeing is a physical sport. These things happen. Get on with it. It wasnt an attack on Mark Mc Hugh.
aveytare wrote: » Joe McMahon in 2011 for one. Leo McLoone came on, left McMahon (who'd just recovered from a broken jaw) concussed then McLoone was brought off again.
SM746 wrote: » im just pointing out the fact that I think the physicality against Donegal is far and above anything we've directed at other teams. Just my opinion
Pighead wrote: » Who on earth were saying that Kerry were out of the top 6? They've never been out of the top 4 in the bookies odds for the Sam Maguire all year. There still is an argument that Tyrone are not top 6.
Smartly Dressed wrote: » The challenge on Mark McHugh was to win a 50/50 ball? I didn't think it was possible to be that naive.
InchicoreDude wrote: » In what way was it not a 50/50 ball????
SM746 wrote: » Getting attacked alot for expressing an opinion. Do you honestly not think 3 concussions in 3 games is extremely high? And no I do not think he meant to hospitalise him. Just stating I think the physicality against Dgl is a lot harder than what we have hit other teams with
Timmyctc wrote: » This is a genuine question but does the tackle have to be shoulder-to-shoulder or what? I only saw the Mc Hugh challenge on the day and it didn't look like that from where we were standing.
Nialler15 wrote: » Were Meath in the 90's not just a physcial team? Mayo came looking for a fight that day and got their arses handed to them. Go back to 91 Meath werent dirty or cynical. They had some serious footballers they had no need to be. Flynn, Stafford, O Rourke....and some hard men like Lyons Mc Entee etc. The difference between those teams and the ulster teams is that the Ulster teams have n interest in football. Donegal the All Ireland Champions in their last two first halves have scored 5 points.....( open to correction if thats wrong) That tells a lot of the story. Stop the opposition play and we will score the minimum. Yes its winning football but where is the spectacle?
Nialler15 wrote: » Shoulder to shoulder and a tackle are two very differnt things. They were both going for the ball...
Lemlin wrote: » Have a watch of the '96 All Ireland semi against Tyrone. Meath were physical but they were also cynical. Tyrone and Donegal have serious footballers so I don't see where you pull this line about no interest in football from. You're picking two Donegal games there. What about the matches they annihilated Kildare and Cork in last year? Why not pick those? Those were fine attacking spectacles to me. There was nothing wrong with the All Ireland final either. Ulster teams also have some of the best footballers in the country. Cavanagh and O'Neill were a joy to watch yesterday. Gaelic football isn't all about scoring. It's about hard hits, tactics and knowledge now. People talk about Dublin now but they tend to forget that in 2010 Dublin went to an All Ireland semi final basically using only two players, O'Gara and Brogan, in the opposition half. Dublin have strength in depth now and good forwards so they can play to their attacking strength. In 2010 they didn't have that and just like other teams they played to their strengths.
Lemlin wrote: » You think cynical play was introduced by Ulster teams? The first cynical team I remember was Meath in the 90s but I'm sure there were others before.
Lemlin wrote: » Don't believe all the crap Spillane spouts because he isn't happy that his beloved Kerry struggled in the 00s to beat Tyrone. I've heard people often say Spillane's Kerry were no angels. I'm not old enough to remember them play.
I can see the irony though in Ciaran Whelan lecturing on cynical play in TSG. A man who didn't even make it past the throw in before he gave Crawford a dig one year.
Nialler15 wrote: » Who were the players concussed other than Mc Hugh? Did they play yesterday?
STB wrote: » It has certainly been embraced! Pay less attention to what other people say. Pat Spillane for all his cute hoooor punditry was an excellent player. That will be 2 time All Star Ciaran Whelan to you. A man, definitely and not one you wanted marking you. A physical force to be reckoned with. He wasn't lecturing either, he made the point that there was a degree of puff PR in it on the run in to the crucial part of this years All Ireland Final. McGuinness's party political broadcast on cynical man marking was laughable given his own interpretation of how his own interpretation of how gaelic football should be played defeated .
Nialler15 wrote: » Did you just say O Gara? Ronan never played for the Dubs. As for Eoin...he is a big waste of space. Donegal V Kildare??? Kildare have really shown how good they are this year now havent they. As for football being about hard hits? I wish it was. The GAA have taken all physicality from the game. A simple bit of contact now is a free.
STB wrote: » That will be 2 time All Star Ciaran Whelan to you. A man, definitely and not one you wanted marking you. A physical force to be reckoned with.
