Which Party do you definately not want to see in the next Government?

Eponymous · 22-07-2013 10:58AM

Bigdeadlydave wrote: »

The reaction of the hysterics will be a great laugh when SF inevitably end up in govt

Nice username for a shinner...

donegal_road · 22-07-2013 11:02AM

by the way, Id vote DUP before Id ever vote FF or FG again.

Eogclouder · 22-07-2013 11:03AM

Any of them, I have lost all faith in politics in Ireland.

Iwasfrozen · 22-07-2013 11:55AM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

As a card-carrying member of the SDLP, who has opposed SF for decades, I'll simply say that if you can't clearly see which of FF and SF has consistently done the most damage to this nation, then you're too innocent to live.

It's not about who has done the most damage. FF bankrupted us but SF's socialist policies will make sure we stay that way. Also if we elected SF into government this country would have lost any sort of moral integrity or decency it might have had.

Foxhound38 · 22-07-2013 12:24PM

donegal_road wrote: »

at least they wouldnt be handing billions of our earnings over to scum Anglo unsecured bondholders, which we will be paying for, for the next 18 years approx

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Not quite true - they voted for the Blanket Banking Guaruntee on that fateful night. They are as culpible as the rest of them for what transpired

awec · 22-07-2013 12:31PM

If SF get in at least it will expose their incompetence on a national level when it comes to real issues that require a bit of thought and a sense of realism.

donegal_road · 22-07-2013 12:46PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

It's not about who has done the most damage. FF bankrupted us but SF's socialist policies will make sure we stay that way. Also if we elected SF into government this country would have lost any sort of moral integrity or decency it might have had.

you could say we have already lost that by now.

Cavehill Red · 22-07-2013 12:47PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

It's not about who has done the most damage. FF bankrupted us but SF's socialist policies will make sure we stay that way. Also if we elected SF into government this country would have lost any sort of moral integrity or decency it might have had.

Piffle. SF have already demonstrated in the North that they're of the same centrist, services-cutting, industry-serving ilk as everyone else.
I don't know how you define moral integrity or decency on the level of a nation, but if it is possible it would seem to me that abandoning a quarter of the national territory to foreign administration for a century would have to be considered as part of that, as would forcing generation upon generation of youth to emigrate so as to keep the same self-serving golden circle elite well-fed, owning everything and in power.
I don't know what your attributed half-life is for the taint of terrorism, but only the SDLP and the Green Party on this island do not come from a lineage connected to violence. SF, whatever their faults, came in from the cold and are functioning in government in the North. To suggest that they are unacceptable is effectively to state that the Irish of the south are somehow more deserving than the Irish of the north. Further, to state that they are less palatable than a Fianna Fail party which has repeatedly destroyed the nation's economy for reasons of corruption defies logic.

Peregrine · 22-07-2013 12:58PM

donegal_road wrote: »

at least they wouldnt be handing billions of our earnings over to scum Anglo unsecured bondholders

Right..and you know this how?

The truth is Sinn Féin haven't got a clue what they're talking about when it comes to economic matters. They'll promise you the moon to get a couple of seats and the sad thing is, some people will believe it. Don't let yourself be fooled.

Foxhound38 · 22-07-2013 12:59PM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Piffle. SF have already demonstrated in the North that they're of the same centrist, services-cutting, industry-serving ilk as everyone else.
I don't know how you define moral integrity or decency on the level of a nation, but if it is possible it would seem to me that abandoning a quarter of the national territory to foreign administration for a century would have to be considered as part of that, as would forcing generation upon generation of youth to emigrate so as to keep the same self-serving golden circle elite well-fed, owning everything and in power.
I don't know what your attributed half-life is for the taint of terrorism, but only the SDLP and the Green Party on this island do not come from a lineage connected to violence. SF, whatever their faults, came in from the cold and are functioning in government in the North. To suggest that they are unacceptable is effectively to state that the Irish of the south are somehow more deserving than the Irish of the north. Further, to state that they are less palatable than a Fianna Fail party which has repeatedly destroyed the nation's economy for reasons of corruption defies logic.

The SDLP is a spent force, the equivilant of FF wishy-washy centro-nationalism in the North. Not that they are worse than SF, but their only remaining USP is their opposition to SF - no new ideas, except attempted hamstringing of Marie Stopes agencies (and this is apparently from a so-called progressive Party of the left?). Time is running out for them, as SF become more and more mainstream.

Also, I believe Labour has no lineage of violence, not that it's making them any better at Governing

Czarcasm · 22-07-2013 01:02PM

TeddyTedson wrote: »

If FF get back in I'll chop off my micky

I'm just bookmarking this so I'll be able to remember where I put it come the next General Election.

I'll have a butter knife ready too.

22-07-2013 01:05PM

Viper_JB wrote: »

Fine Gael have just proven themselves to be a slightly more gaunt looking version of Fianna Fail, who no doubt will be elected again as we appear to have the memory of gold fish - think I may go independent next time.

Would be an excellent decision.

Cavehill Red · 22-07-2013 01:07PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

The SDLP is a spent force, the equivilant of FF wishy-washy centro-nationalism in the North. Not that they are worse than SF, but their only remaining USP is their opposition to SF - no new ideas, except attempted hamstringing of Marie Stopes agencies (and this is apparently from a so-called progressive Party of the left?). Time is running out for them, as SF become more and more mainstream.

The counter-argument is that the SDLP created the political circumstances where everyone else, including SF, ended up having to align to their position. Due to their relationship with Irish Labour, they don't run candidates in the south, so I'm not going to get into a debate about their future which would be off-topic in this thread.

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Also, I believe Labour has no lineage of violence, not that it's making them any better at Governing

Never heard of the Irish Citizen Army?

dublinman1990 · 22-07-2013 01:14PM

I wouldn't vote for any of the parties in the above poll because; whatever political ideologies or background they came from; they are still a bunch of self-serving hypocrites who only do favors for their constituents.

This system for the current state to have now is without question a simply appalling one. I feel that it wouldn't be changing anytime soon by the look of it after the next GE.

I will voting for either more independent candidates next time round or not going to bother.

I would like to see a lot more independents make use of their time in the dail because it would be nice to have a change of scenery to show the current political ilk to know what their up against.

Hootanany · 22-07-2013 01:25PM

FF FG Labor shower of shxxxtes the lot of them

Foxhound38 · 22-07-2013 01:37PM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Never heard of the Irish Citizen Army?

Interesting point, but the Irish Citizen Army was predominantly the paramilitary wing of the Unions, not the Labour Party

Cienciano · 22-07-2013 01:45PM

donegal_road wrote: »

at least they wouldnt be handing billions of our earnings over to scum Anglo unsecured bondholders, which we will be paying for, for the next 18 years approx

LOL, Sinn Fein voted for it! They supported it!

I'm not sure what's worse, Fianna Fail supporters, or Sinn Fein supporters. Surely even the most hardcore Sinn Fein supporter knows that they make all their promises because they know they won't get a majority?
And "they all lie" isn't good enough.

Cavehill Red · 22-07-2013 01:46PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Interesting point, but the Irish Citizen Army was predominantly the paramilitary wing of the Unions, not the Labour Party

You have correctly identified what I described as 'a lineage connected to violence' in relation to the Labour Party.

Craiggers · 21-11-2013 02:17PM

Recently I have been reading into politics and have become curious why we actually have these political parties and don't they pretty much go against democracy? Would anybody agree?

My point being a politician runs for his local area to represent that area but yet if he is part of let's say ff FG labour Sinn Fein etc etc he goes by their policies and votes in line with the party........

To have a true democracy we should abolish these groups and TDs should be totally independent..... Yes it might cause a little more contraversy and people will always will have their little pacts but votes in the Dail would be more open.....

Pretty much every company has these parties but why it's time for change what the oireachteas channel and actually listen to some of the TDs speak they haven't a notion what they are talking about half the time.... People writing speeches for them they are so uneducated it's matters that arise it's just plain ignorance.......

Am I the only one that feels this way and would like to see these numpty parties abolished because let's face it they are as useless as each other the ones that speak the most sense are actually the independents.........

Again my opinions are based from what I have read and watched in recent weeks...... Half the TDs are a sham and don't give a monkey about there constituency.........

Fighting Irish · 21-11-2013 02:59PM

Whichever one looks the most likely to legalize cannabis

hotbabe1992 · 21-11-2013 03:03PM

Ive seen most of the responses on here - and i have to say im dissapointed,very dissapointed with them.

Irish people are stupid,they keep voting the same variant combinations of either: Fine Fail , Fine Gael or Labour..

Did fine gael do their job as opposition party when all the brown envelopes were being passed,when the banksters were committing fraud?NO.

So can you trust fine gael?No.They still will impose austerity measures ie,property tax,broadband tax and so on long after the IMF leave..

Labour?Well they cut the old,disabled,and those on welfare..

FVCK them..

Craiggers · 21-11-2013 03:09PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Whichever one looks the most likely to legalize cannabis

Independents 6 of the 8 votes for mings motion

JillyQ · 21-11-2013 03:11PM

theSHU wrote: »

Sinn Féin - I'd emigrate if they ever got into power.

You wouldnt be the only one emigrating if that shower of thugs got in.

JillyQ · 21-11-2013 03:12PM

theSHU wrote: »

Sinn Féin - I'd emigrate if they ever got into power.

You wouldnt be the only one emigrating if that shower of thugs got in.

Gmol · 21-11-2013 03:17PM

through the process of elimination the only one I could vote for is FG, we badly need a new party, with people who know what they're talking about, it seems to be to only high paid job you can get because your father fixed a pothole

Craiggers · 21-11-2013 03:22PM

Gmol wrote: »

through the process of elimination the only one I could vote for is FG, we badly need a new party, with people who know what they're talking about, it seems to be to only high paid job you can get because your father fixed a pothole

Why a new party? Why not just abolish let them all run on their own merit not because what party they belong too.....

LordSutch · 21-11-2013 03:23PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Which Party do you definately not want to see in the next Government?

1/ I definately do not want to see Sinn Fein in government.
2/ I do not foresee Fianna Fail being part of the next Dail.

Oranage2 · 21-11-2013 03:24PM

Joe Higgins and the socialist party, I've never heard someone sprout such nonsense!

Pherekydes · 21-11-2013 03:33PM

The eFFers.

Do I need to state a reason?

hotbabe1992 · 21-11-2013 03:41PM

Fine gael - want more austerity

Labour - want more qualified irish people to emigrate to canada.They couldnt be arsed creating jobs for them.

Which Party do you definately not want to see in the next Government?

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