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Arcade & Retro Marketplace

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  • #32
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    EnterNow wrote: »
    As for publishing pm messages publicly, defo not :)

    Ah that's only in rare cases when buyer & seller can't resolve the issue privately and you're being called a liar publicly. Yeah mods can't resolve disputes nor would you want them too. That Airsoft link looks good.


  • #33
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,423 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Thats very good, I like it. So ultimately if you're about to do a deal with someone, you use that thread & search for their username is it?

    Exactly. And it's one post per person in the transaction - so it's pretty much like leaving ebay feedback. No discussion/squabbling on thread.


  • #34
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Exactly. And it's one post per person in the transaction - so it's pretty much like leaving ebay feedback. No discussion/squabbling on thread.

    Sure we'll see what Cidey/Logie thinks of it & let them decide. Seems a good way to operate it anyway :)


  • #35
    Los Lobos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Los Lobos


    Sorry, it was probably only viewable on AA if you were logged in. Works well though.

    Edit - As opposed to the one O1s1n linked to, the AA one is like a subforum, everyone given feedback has their own thread, with all their feedback from each transaction. It's a whole lot easier to find someone and check/leave feedback unlike that airsoft one where you have to just leave it on one thread.

    If anyone has an account on AA, here's the link again to see what I mean:

    http://atariage.com/forums/forum/104-user-feedback-forum/


  • #36
    safetyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭safetyboy


    Maybe a what its worth in Ireland thread could be good too?


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  • #37
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Ah that's only in rare cases when buyer & seller can't resolve the issue privately and you're being called a liar publicly. Yeah mods can't resolve disputes nor would you want them too. That Airsoft link looks good.

    If something spills over into the forums both parties will be subject to censure.
    The marketplace idea is fast getting complicated.
    So, an exclusive feedback thread. As a user completes a deal they leave a line on that persons feedback thread. Do both sellers and buyers have a thread. If the buyer is a no regular, can the other party make them a thread?
    Otherwise it should work fine.


  • #38
    Steve X2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,912 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    If we put stuff up the marketplace can we also stick it up on adverts etc, or not?


  • #39
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Steve SI wrote: »
    If we put stuff up the marketplace can we also stick it up on adverts etc, or not?

    Can't see anything in the charter to say you can't. Sure that would be too limited anyway, should be allowed put a sale on as many sites as you like.


  • #40
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    You can put the items anywhere you like, and sell it to anyone, but if it becomes apparent that an agreed transaction is abandoned when a user elsewhere offers more, that will be noted and commented on.


  • #41
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    You can put the items anywhere you like, and sell it to anyone, but if it becomes apparent that an agreed transaction is abandoned when a user elsewhere offers more, that will be noted and commented on.

    Agreed, you're free to advertise wherever you want. As Cidey says, be sure though if a deal is agreed elsewhere that you advise as such in the Marketplace.

    You prob all seen there's a feedback thread now for users, can we request everyone who does a deal through the marketplace to take the time to leave feedback (both buyer & seller).

    Finally, if a deal is done/closed, please advise so in your ad so we can close the thread, move it to the archive, & help us keep the Marketplace only for active/unsold items to make it easier to use :)


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  • #42
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    If anyone has any threads still open in the Marketplace where the items have been traded/sold or are not available anymore, please bump/update the thread stating as such so it can gotten get rid of & moved to the marketplace.


  • #43
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    What do folks think of a slight addition to the 'Marektplace Users Feedback' thread - when you're posting feedback that you specify whether the user was Buyer or Seller? Even if it's just in brackets after their name rather than another header. Or just change "User" to Buyer/Seller as appropriate. Obviously only applies to Sale type interactions and not Trades.

    Handy to see at a glance and it saves you having to click into the link (if one was provided) to see who was who.

    Actually, is there no feedback for Buyers? Prompt payment, nice to deal with etc. Only fair they get feedback too and it would be handy for sellers to see if a person looking to buy has any feedback and not a time wasting gouger. :D

    Taking EnterNow's Sale type example:

    Type: Sale
    Seller: Mr. Z
    Item: Super Aleste CIB
    Link: Original Ad/Thread of Item in Marketplace
    Feedback: Received item as described, thanks a mil.
    (Above posted by Mr. X)

    Type: Sale
    Buyer: Mr. X
    Item: Super Aleste CIB
    Link: Original Ad/Thread of Item in Marketplace
    Feedback: Prompt payment, nice chap to deal with. No hassles.
    (Above posted by Mr. Z)


  • #44
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Yep, makes sense. If the mods are on board with it, the template can be edited to incorporate it :)


  • #45
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Actually, is there no feedback for Buyers?

    Sorry forgot about this, yeah I think both the buyer AND the seller should leave feedback for each other


  • #46
    OwaynOTT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,619 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    What about insulting offers? When something is €100 it's will be annoying when somebody offers way below that like adverts style.
    Can we set some sort of limit on how far it can go below?
    And maybe set up a strike count system?


  • #47
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    OwaynOTT wrote: »
    What about insulting offers? When something is €100 it's will be annoying when somebody offers way below that like adverts style.
    Can we set some sort of limit on how far it can go below?
    And maybe set up a strike count system?

    Sorry but I for one won't be moderating that nightmare.
    People can make any offer they like, sellers can refuse.
    If someone is a persistent jerk then they can be reprimanded, beaten with shrubbery, whatever.


  • #48
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Sorry but I for one won't be moderating that nightmare.
    People can make any offer they like, sellers can refuse.
    If someone is a persistent jerk then they can be reprimanded, beaten with shrubbery, whatever.

    Agreed, there's really no way to police something like that, not that we'd even want to. That'd mean you couldn't offer a realistic value for an over-priced item too. I'd agree with Ciderman, sellers are free to ask what they like, & buyers can offer what they like...it'll always only ever be a realistic price that'll sell.


  • #49
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Users must report abuses of the Marketplace to the Moderators
    If they are hassled or find themselves the subject of bullying it is important that this is sent to the Mods who can then take swift action.
    I think it is clear that the rules apply to all, be they new to the forum, old hands here and everything in between, and no quarter will be given to users who are seen to abuse the rules or others here.
    Everyone uses the Marketplace with the clear instruction that the rules must be read and adhered to, with no exceptions.
    So, if there is a problem, report it and don't hope that it'll just go away, the user causing the issue will just do it again to someone else.


  • #50
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    A small but relevant alteration has been made to the Arcade and Retro Marketplace Charter.
    Previously the requirement for posters to the sub-forum was either a post count of 100 or to be a member of Boards.ie for at least a year.
    This has been changed to posters to the A&R Marketplace having a post count of at least 100.

    Any current threads from users who do not measure up to the requirements of the revised charter will be allowed leave their current threads in place, we are interested in fair play after all.
    However, no further threads will be accepted until they meet the revised criteria.

    Thanks all


  • #51
    Kenjataimu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Kenjataimu


    Checks join date....

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    Feck this I'm off to jamma+ adverts :pac: :pac: :pac:


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  • #52
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Proco Jr. wrote: »
    Checks join date....

    Yeah, thats the problem with this & why I initially created the either/or rule. Unless the mods make certain exceptions for A&R regulars or something


  • #53
    Kenjataimu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Kenjataimu


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Yeah, thats the problem with this & why I initially created the either/or rule. Unless the mods make certain exceptions for A&R regulars or something

    No, I don't mind really. No point having different rules for different users. It would put people off becoming regulars in my opinion. I can wait a few months.

    As I said there is always adverts.


  • #54
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Last edit of the rules, and that's that.
    I will add that, regardless of the charter, if there is any suspicion of mucking about threads will be removed with or without warning.
    This Marketplace is really on a knife edge as far as the overseers on Adverts are concerned.


  • #55
    Los Lobos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Los Lobos


    How so?


  • #56
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Los Lobos wrote: »
    How so?

    Boards is a discussion site, Adverts deals with sales. It's only through the understanding of the higher echelons of Boards that we were granted permission to set up the Marketplace - on the grounds that the community wanted it, & we wanted to break away from the arseholery that goes on with Adverts. Any arseholery that goes on in the marketplace, negates our arguments for having it, & will therefore, be booted straight out.


  • #57
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    So, no arseholery, in a nutshell.

    Actually, no arseholery anywhere, not just in nutshells.

    But in particular no arseholery on the A&R Marketplace.

    Please.

    Otherwise, you'll just have your arseholery thread deleted and a warning or ban.
    Regardless of location, including those posting threads from nutshells.


  • #58
    Los Lobos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Los Lobos


    But where was the arseholery? I like this new word ye made up btw


  • #59
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,753 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Los Lobos wrote: »
    But where was the arseholery? I like this new word ye made up btw

    In a nutshell, apparently, why aren't you paying attention?


  • #60
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Los Lobos wrote: »
    But where was the arseholery? I like this new word ye made up btw

    It was brought to mod attention a while ago that there were offers being made via pm. The rules are there for everyone, & making the whole thing transparent, reflects the good nature that the very forum represents. Any rule breaking will be dealt with, users know enough to report those breaking rules, & Cidey and Logie are more than ready to ban anyone who would try engage in arseholery.

    Arseholery is a real word too, I read that somewhere.


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  • #61
    Los Lobos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Los Lobos


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    In a nutshell, apparently, why aren't you paying attention?

    Here now buddy, play nice.


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