Mens Clothes Have Gone Crap.

1ZRed · 15-07-2013 04:41PM

Celly Smunt wrote: »

No,it's not about cut-boot jeans and cross hatch t-shirts.It's more about the crap like this everywhere.

See I wouldn't wear that, it's not my thing, but there are still clothes that look well and fit better, they just wouldn't look as overboard as those types of clothes. And being honest it's very rarely I see any lads wear stuff like that, gay or straight.

It's not just what they look like that changes, as in design, it's their fit as well. That flamboyant tshirt there will have a similar fit to a plainer one, it's just that that fit is the style that's going at the minute. So you still could look well and have that fit in your plainer tshirt, but just not look as over the top as that.

I know that because I have to trawl through all of that because many of that isn't my thing.

Gongoozler · 15-07-2013 04:45PM

Same for women really. hate shopping most of the time but its just awful when you cant find basic things like stuff for work or a regular pair of jeans.

ulinbac · 15-07-2013 04:50PM

Penneys/Primark do good t-shirts (most of the time). The bit that annoys me about them is the sleeve part. After about 6 months they stretch but look what you paid for them. Only buy their hoddies for gym. If I'm going on hols, I drop into Primark to see what they have.

Based on the clothes in the wardrobe and previous clothing:

Tommy Hilfiger - lasts a while and fits well
Boss - Great stuff. T-shirts aren't thick but last. Same for Jeans, tracksuit etc
Ralph Lauren - Worth the money. Fits and washes well
Calvin Klein - Only buy their jocks now. The rest is crap tbh
A&F - Comfortable and well made. Hoodies wear away a bit on the cuffs but nice and comfortable
Hollister - Same as A&F
Armani - Only have t-shirts, last ages!!
River Island - Hit and miss, some good, some ok
Top Man - Never again
Ted Baker - Look nice but don't last as long as wanted
Nike - Stopped buying their stuff
Jack and Jones - Jeans last a while but don't like the cut available. T-shirts ok
Urban Outfitters - Good Stuff
RDX - Best tracksuit bottoms ever!!!

Dravokivich · 15-07-2013 04:50PM

I've been having some horrible trouble trying to find a decent pair of jeans lately as well. All the ones in Pennys that should be my size are too damn tight. Seems men aren't expected to have legs these days with the infestation of skinny jeans. The stuff in Dunnes looks absolute cack too.

1ZRed · 15-07-2013 04:50PM

Speisekarte wrote: »

What's hair loss got to do with it??

It's just something I've seen very often in real life that the lads that bitch and moan about clothes these days would be lads with beer bellies, boot jeans and balding in their 30's. They'd be giving out everyone looks ridiculous and they can't find anything decent to wear, even though they wouldn't be wearing anything decent themselves.

It's just that they're passed the main focus of clothes brands who really only focus on men in their 20's, and when they were in their 20's the lads who were 30+ then would be saying the same about them as they do with men in their 20's now, and when I reach that age I'll probably be saying the same thing. Circle of life, but it just goes to show how f*cking redundant this whole "men's clothes are crap these days, but back in my day..." because it'll go on forever.

professore · 15-07-2013 04:52PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Yes, I love this mentality that because a tshirt doesn't cover your beer belly and won't match your boot cut jeans these days that men's clothes and fashion have gone to f*ck. There are loads of clothes that look well that won't have you looking like a homosexual, these are clothes more geared towards men in their 20's, not the 30 year old boot cut wearing lads who have a bad beer:exercise ratio which is more common here.

But of course, if you're not that balding lad in the pub with a belly and timberland boots, you've more testosterone because you don't wear anything that looks well, instead of the lads in their 20's who are generally in better shape and dress better to suit that.

They fit fine when you buy them .... they SHRINK vertically and EXPAND horzontally after a few washes - so actually if I HAD a beer belly, they would fit me better !!!! Having a wife and 2 kids I have no time to be hanging around in a pub anyway - prefer to spend any spare time I have training for 10K road races.

It's sad to hear the brand slaves parrot the same old crap about their favourite brands - showing their "individuality" by looking identical to 95% of their peers.

professore · 15-07-2013 04:55PM

The clothing manufacturers are missing a trick - you either have all this stuff aimed at 20 year olds or grandads, or possibly golf fanatics, and nothing in between. Ironically the 30 and 40 year old brigade would buy stuff aimed at them if there was any of it.

professore · 15-07-2013 05:01PM

Celly Smunt wrote: »

No,it's not about cut-boot jeans and cross hatch t-shirts.It's more about the crap like this everywhere.

If I had a son dressing like that I would be expecting an experience like this:

Actually Mike Heck (the dad)... there's a real man !!!!

Ush1 · 15-07-2013 05:03PM

I used to have the view that brand names vs Penneys or Heatons had no real difference.

Bought 3 polo t shirts from Heatons, 7 euro each, that'll do nicely. Now the fit was a bit on the large side, then washed them once and they all came out like belly tops!! Bleedin' fumin' I was.:mad:

MJ23 · 15-07-2013 05:10PM

I blame Jack and Jones.
The worst clothes ever. I shudder when I see someone in that crap.

missingtime · 15-07-2013 05:13PM

These days you seem to have to be super careful with how you wash your clothes. Using a dryer is a big no-no. I've ruined some really nice pieces of clothing by using the dryer.

Everything should be washed inside out and with a colour catcher and at a temperature between 30-40.

When washing polo's make sure you button the top button as the collar will hold its shape better.

For hoodies, you should really dry them flat. Hanging them when wet will cause them to misshapen.

That_Guy · 15-07-2013 05:16PM

Trying to find men's section in shops these days is difficult enough. You'd sooner find Jaysus.

syklops · 15-07-2013 05:17PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Clearly you can't tell the difference in quality between A&F and Penneys. They are WORLDS apart. I've a A&F hoodie that's 6 years old, hasn't faded or stretched at all, whereas anything from Penneys would disintegrate within a year.

Utter rubbish.

By 'would' you mean you have no experience of Penneys stuff and assume because it cost 20 euro, that its not good quality. You can't tell quality by the price.

I have hoodies and tops from Penneys that are 6 years old and older that are like the day I bought them.

ScumLord · 15-07-2013 05:17PM

professore wrote: »

They fit fine when you buy them .... they SHRINK vertically and EXPAND horzontally after a few washes -

I don't understand how the clothes manage to do this. You'd think if they shrink they'd shrink across the board. I feel like a 10 year old lad growing out of clothes again.

April O Neill · 15-07-2013 05:19PM

OneArt wrote: »

High heels were originally invented for men.

Someone else avidly reads the BBC News site, I see.

15-07-2013 05:22PM

MJ23 wrote: »

I blame Jack and Jones.
The worst clothes ever. I shudder when I see someone in that crap.

Their jeans are scratchy as ****

15-07-2013 05:24PM

I bought a pair of canvas shoes in penneys a few years back, they literally fell apart the first time I wore them

My name is URL · 15-07-2013 05:24PM

This thread reminds me I need to buy some clothes... I've bought feck all over the last two years come to think of it. I usually just wear the crap out of stuff before I replace it. Never understood why people purchase more clothing than they actually need, but each to their own.

1ZRed wrote: »

Clearly you can't tell the difference in quality between A&F and Penneys. They are WORLDS apart. I've a A&F hoodie that's 6 years old, hasn't faded or stretched at all, whereas anything from Penneys would disintegrate within a year.

I've had a few pairs of A&F & Aeropastale tracksuit bottoms bought as gifts and they all started to disintegrate after a few was / dry cycles. In contrast to that I have a load of cheap ass stuff from Pennies which hold up fine in the wash.

A&F stuff isn't always of a high quality.. it doesn't mean that none of their stuff is good quality. It's all down to your own experiences, but to say that Penneys stuff is always of a worse quality to A&F etc is just plain wrong.

15-07-2013 05:28PM

The hardness of your water could be the issue if clothes get destroyed after a few washes

syklops · 15-07-2013 05:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I bought a pair of canvas shoes in penneys a few years back, they literally fell apart the first time I wore them

Ergo all of their stuff is terrible. Is that your point?

Did you take them back?

bgrizzley · 15-07-2013 05:31PM

Is there anything to be said for a nice cardigan?

15-07-2013 05:33PM

Celly Smunt wrote: »

Surely i'm not the only one to notice the crap that passes for clothes lately,both in terms of quality and style.

I still have items of clothing from "back in the day" i.e about 10 years ago that are still relatively fine.Although i do use these for the likes of work rather than day to day wear.

But lately,i'm lucky to get about 4 wears out of t-shirts and the likes,and i don't mean penneys t-shirts,but actual esteemed branded t-shirts.I wear my fair share of budget t-shirts,but i expect to get a short span out of these so i don't mind the loss of 5 euro or so.But the t-shirts that are about 25-50 euro should last a bit longer,but generally don't.

Style wise,i fear for the future of man.I can't seem to find clothes that aren't either M&S old man clothes or pink t-shirts with a 70's shot of the miami skyline plastered on the front.What ever happened to normal clothes that fit well,last a while and aren't going to make my testosterone disappear?.

Jumpers are bleedin shite too these days.

Topman can kiss my balls too.

I agree completely but i think the fashion that is currently on the market will have a very life short span. Its as if metrosexuality is being forced upon us. Even football shirts are going that way i notice.

15-07-2013 05:35PM

On top of that i absolutely hate this Hollister brand thats on the market. I absolutely despise it or perhaps just the people wearing it i dont really know

professore · 15-07-2013 05:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I agree completely but i think the fashion that is currently on the market will have a very life short span. Its as if metrosexuality is being forced upon us. Even football shirts are going that way i notice.

Very short for the last 5 years now at least ! The fashion industry has decided that female models should look like young boys or heroin addicts now also want men to look like women.

professore · 15-07-2013 05:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

On top of that i absolutely hate this Hollister brand thats on the market. I absolutely despise it or perhaps just the people wearing it i dont really know

€50 for a plain t-shirt that says "Hollister". FFS. It's a T-SHIRT PEOPLE !!!!

15-07-2013 05:39PM

syklops wrote: »

Ergo all of their stuff is terrible. Is that your point?

Did you take them back?

Nope I bought them on a weekend away because I had forgotten to pack and only had runners with me. I couldn't be arsed going back. I think they cost 8 euro.

Their jocks didn't fall apart to be fair.

1ZRed · 15-07-2013 05:41PM

syklops wrote: »

Utter rubbish.

By 'would' you mean you have no experience of Penneys stuff and assume because it cost 20 euro, that its not good quality. You can't tell quality by the price.

I have hoodies and tops from Penneys that are 6 years old and older that are like the day I bought them.

I have had a few things from Penneys and no it didn't wear well for me and it lost shape a lot quicker than things that'd be better would. That's what I've experienced.

I don't judge good quality on expense. Generally I don't buy from Tommy Hilfiger because although I do find the quality good, I could get better or equal quality for a cheaper price. It depends on the brand and the type of clothes you buy from that brand.

I've found things from Penneys doesn't fit as well or wear as well to me, and I'm allowed to have that opinion. My hoodie from A&F would be of a far high quality compared to one from Penneys, it's thicker, feels better and doesn't fade as quickly. What's rubbish is thinking that everything from all other brands is the same thing that Penneys offers, just cheaper. Not everything from a certain brand might hold up as well across the board, depending on material, but things I've bought that are branded have held up better for me.

15-07-2013 05:43PM

professore wrote: »

Very short for the last 5 years now at least ! The fashion industry has decided that female models should look like young boys or heroin addicts now also want men to look like women.

Personally i wear alot of tight fitting t-shirts (not too figure hugging mind) to try enhance the look of my physique:) but its just your traditional crew neck or polo neck with normal dark or bland colours.

As for brand names, I discovered the irony a long time ago of these multi million pound companies who spend millions on advertising in order to attract me to paying over the odds for an item of clothing with their branding plastered all over it so i can have the privelege of promoting their company for free :rolleyes:

I do like some of the adidas/umbro vintage stuff though ill admit

15-07-2013 05:46PM

professore wrote: »

€50 for a plain t-shirt that says "Hollister". FFS. It's a T-SHIRT PEOPLE !!!!

There just seems to be that breed of Celtic tiger cub wearing all this sort of sh*t and quite frankly Mr Hollister, Mr Abercrombie, Mr Hilfiger et all, can shove their overpriced tack up their ar$e. Penneys all the way for me and as for branded stuff im like Arsene Wenger when it comes to it - only at the right price

professore · 15-07-2013 05:48PM

The owner sounds like a right sh1t too:

http://elitedaily.com/news/world/abercrombie-fitch-ceo-explains-why-he-hates-fat-chicks/

Mens Clothes Have Gone Crap.

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