Mens Clothes Have Gone Crap.

Celly Smunt

Surely i'm not the only one to notice the crap that passes for clothes lately,both in terms of quality and style.

I still have items of clothing from "back in the day" i.e about 10 years ago that are still relatively fine.Although i do use these for the likes of work rather than day to day wear.

But lately,i'm lucky to get about 4 wears out of t-shirts and the likes,and i don't mean penneys t-shirts,but actual esteemed branded t-shirts.I wear my fair share of budget t-shirts,but i expect to get a short span out of these so i don't mind the loss of 5 euro or so.But the t-shirts that are about 25-50 euro should last a bit longer,but generally don't.

Style wise,i fear for the future of man.I can't seem to find clothes that aren't either M&S old man clothes or pink t-shirts with a 70's shot of the miami skyline plastered on the front.What ever happened to normal clothes that fit well,last a while and aren't going to make my testosterone disappear?.

Jumpers are bleedin shite too these days.

Topman can kiss my balls too.

OneArt

Clothing style changes.

High heels were originally invented for men.

How insecure can you be to think that clothes will make your testosterone disappear?

Mr Benevolent

Uhh... brand stuff is the same as Penneys, you just pay more to have an A&F or Topman logo on the front. I'm surprised that some people aren't bright enough to realise that.

Celly Smunt

OneArt wrote: »

Clothing style changes.

High heels were originally invented for men.

How insecure can you be to think that clothes will make your testosterone disappear?

There's style changing and then there's bullshit.

later12

Celly Smunt wrote: »

Style wise,i fear for the future of man.

200,000 years of civilisation and it was badly hanging tee shirts that brought us down.

Who could have seen it coming?

neil_

Wtf do you do with your clothes that you only get 4 wears out of them? Seriously

_Whimsical_

What are you doing with them that you're only getting a month out of them ?

Yes quality has gone to hell across the board in womens and mens clothes but I haven't found anything decent price ready for the bin after a month really.

Celly Smunt

neil_ wrote: »

Wtf do you do with your clothes that you only get 4 wears out of them? Seriously

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

What are you doing with them that you're only getting a month out of them ?

Yes quality has gone to hell across the board in womens and mens clothes but I haven't found anything decent price ready for the bin after a month really.

The necks either collapse or they just go totally out of shape.

Always washed cold too.

bumper234

Celly Smunt wrote: »

There's style changing and then there's bullshit.

Welcome to middle age....embrace it and enjoy;)

porsche959

I agree with the OP to an extent but there are brands and then there are brands. A lot of the mass-market brands are pure muck.

You can get decent gear in the following...but don't expect any bargains, particularly in the first two:

http://www.louiscopeland.com/

http://www.yourlocal.ie/company/379251357204480

http://www.yourlocal.ie/company/379254238449664

EyeSight

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Uhh... brand stuff is the same as Penneys, you just pay more to have an A&F or Topman logo on the front. I'm surprised that some people aren't bright enough to realise that.

wrong. i have A&F clothes that are extremely good quality. i guess it comes down to each item. people just like to hate on them

Pennys isn't the worst, they have a terrible shape/fit to their clothes, but yes they are way better than Topman quality for a quarter of the price

BBDBB

socks with sandals

you know it makes sense

Karl Stein

Trap rabbits
Cook meat
Make clothes from fur
?????????
Profit.

1ZRed

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Uhh... brand stuff is the same as Penneys, you just pay more to have an A&F or Topman logo on the front. I'm surprised that some people aren't bright enough to realise that.

Clearly you can't tell the difference in quality between A&F and Penneys. They are WORLDS apart. I've a A&F hoodie that's 6 years old, hasn't faded or stretched at all, whereas anything from Penneys would disintegrate within a year.

KingOfFairview

I'm 33 and it's getting harder for me to find dignified clothes. Basically if I can't find what I want in H&M or Penney's im cockboxed.

SuperGrover

I recently bought a bunch of Fruit Of The Loom t-shirts from Play.com. Just over 4 eur each delivered and good quality. Buy a size up, they can a little tight.

http://www.play.com/Clothing/T-Shirts/-/3054/2310/3-/Refine.html?ob=4&searchfilters=c{3054}+

keithclancy

1ZRed wrote: »

Clearly you can't tell the difference in quality between A&F and Penneys. They are WORLDS apart. I've a A&F that's 6 years old, hasn't faded or stretched at all, whereas anything from Penneys would disintegrate within a year.

Rubbish .. I have a few hoodies and shorts that I bought in Penneys and still have them after 6 years.

I have some other brand stuff that just fell apart.

1ZRed

keithclancy wrote: »

Rubbish .. I have a few hoodies and shorts that I bought in Penneys and still have them after 6 years.

I have some other brand stuff that just fell apart.

The quality just isn't there, thin tshirts and overall poorer quality and they just don't last as long in my experience. Anyone who throws down an A&F or similar clothing a lot of the time haven't even bought one thing off them.

Sure there's a markup in branded clothing but there's a massive difference between a branded shirt and a cheap one from Penneys, you can see it, but most importantly you can feel it.

As far as clothes go, I take it you're 30+ OP and styles change. I find clothes hard to find because I'm fussy and I'm not into the more common skinny jeans look, but there's still good clothes to be found that'll still look well. But it's undeniable that you get what you pay for.

ScumLord

Mens fashion hasn't been the same since suits of armour went out of fashion. A t shirt is just never going to excite like a face plate and a broadsword.

I find most shirts t shirts aren't long enough, and they shrink really easily, or I'm doing the washing machine wrong.

razorblunt

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Uhh... brand stuff is the same as Penneys, you just pay more to have an A&F or Topman logo on the front. I'm surprised that some people aren't bright enough to realise that.

This is completely incorrect, Penney's is poor quality, washes poorly, fits poorly (if you're not a hanger shape) and generally smells like crap after a while. I'm not saying you have to buy A&F and there's definitely a premium for branding but some clothes makers are better than others.

It's like saying a Dacia is the same as an Audi, but people aren't bright enough to realise the difference.

professore

I agree with the OP. I have a few Timberland t-shirts that just expand horizontally and shrink vertically and end up looking more like belly tops than t-shirts. A tommy hilfiger jeans that just fell apart, even though it did fit well in fairness, Adidas hoody that faded and went all rough after a few months, the list goes on. And these were bought in reputable shops, not online from hong kong or something. And all Nike stuff is sh1t.

Meanwhile, Penneys stuff mostly lasts well and does the job for a fraction of the price. Dunnes used to be basic quality but cheap but now is just basic and expensive.

I think men's fashion lost the plot when they brought in pink shirts, man bags and sarongs. That's fine if you are a judge on Americas next top model but we are not all homosexuals.

professore

razorblunt wrote: »

This is completely incorrect, Penney's is poor quality, washes poorly, fits poorly (if you're not a hanger shape) and generally smells like crap after a while. I'm not saying you have to buy A&F and there's definitely a premium for branding but some clothes makers are better than others.

It's like saying a Dacia is the same as an Audi, but people aren't bright enough to realise the difference.

Nike trainers smell like crap after wearing once. Dog crap to be precise.

JonSnuuu

1ZRed wrote: »

Clearly you can't tell the difference in quality between A&F and Penneys. They are WORLDS apart. I've a A&F hoodie that's 6 years old, hasn't faded or stretched at all, whereas anything from Penneys would disintegrate within a year.

This.

The inside of an A&F / Hollister hoodie keeps that fluffy "new hoodie" feeling for aaages, so nice. No stretching or anything either.

You can feel it in their t-shirts too, so much more durable! Comparing them to Pennys clothes is misinformed!

JP85

I have to laugh when you walk into some H&Ms or even Forever 21 and you find the mens section buried in the corner with a couple of tshirts and a few tops and the womens section about a thousand square metres, i really find it difficult to buy clothes, a lot of friends of mine are starting to buy on places like ASOS/Littlewoods etc, im sick of walking in and out of shops and not seeing something decent.

With regarding quality, i find some penneys stuff do last but sometimes an lose shape pretty quickly, havent been able to afford much more than penneys lately though

gobnaitolunacy

Them designer jeans don't last p*ssing time. Levi's FTW.
Wranglers are for country and western listeners and farmers.

The gear in River Island is a bit...strange

1ZRed

professore wrote: »

I agree with the OP. I have a few Timberland t-shirts that just expand horizontally and shrink vertically and end up looking more like belly tops than t-shirts. A tommy hilfiger jeans that just fell apart, even though it did fit well in fairness, Adidas hoody that faded and went all rough after a few months, the list goes on. And these were bought in reputable shops, not online from hong kong or something. And all Nike stuff is sh1t.

Meanwhile, Penneys stuff mostly lasts well and does the job for a fraction of the price. Dunnes used to be basic quality but cheap but now is just basic and expensive.

I think men's fashion lost the plot when they brought in pink shirts, man bags and sarongs. That's fine if you are a judge on America's next top model but we are not all homosexuals.

Yes, I love this mentality that because a tshirt doesn't cover your beer belly and won't match your boot cut jeans these days that men's clothes and fashion have gone to f*ck. There are loads of clothes that look well that won't have you looking like a homosexual, these are clothes more geared towards men in their 20's, not the 30 year old boot cut wearing lads who have a bad beer:exercise ratio which is more common here.

But of course, if you're not that balding lad in the pub with a belly and timberland boots, you've more testosterone because you don't wear anything that looks well, instead of the lads in their 20's who are generally in better shape and dress better to suit that.

ScumLord

JP85 wrote: »

With regarding quality, i find some penneys stuff do last but sometimes an lose shape pretty quickly, havent been able to afford much more than penneys lately though

I remember buying two t shirts at the same time, one barely lasted a month the other lasted years.


Any t shirt with badges or lettering sewn to it seems to disintegrate quicker.

Celly Smunt

1ZRed wrote: »

Yes, I love this mentality that because a tshirt doesn't cover your beer belly and won't match your boot cut jeans these days that men's clothes and fashion have gone to f*ck. There are loads of clothes that look well that won't have you looking like a homosexual, these are clothes more geared towards men in their 20's, not the 30 year old boot cut wearing lads who have a bad beer:exercise ratio which is more common here.

But of course, if you're not that balding lad in the pub with a belly and timberland boots, you've more testosterone because you don't wear anything that looks well, instead of the lads in their 20's who are generally in better shape and dress better to suit that.

No,it's not about cut-boot jeans and cross hatch t-shirts.It's more about the crap like this everywhere.

These would be my examples of nice clothes,fashionable and not entirely gay.

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Speisekarte

1ZRed wrote: »

Yes, I love this mentality that because a tshirt doesn't cover your beer belly and won't match your boot cut jeans these days that men's clothes and fashion have gone to f*ck. There are loads of clothes that look well that won't have you looking like a homosexual, these are clothes more geared towards men in their 20's, not the 30 year old boot cut wearing lads who have a bad beer:exercise ratio which is more common here.

But of course, if you're not that balding lad in the pub with a belly and timberland boots, you've more testosterone because you don't wear anything that looks well, instead of the lads in their 20's who are generally in better shape and dress better to suit that.

What's hair loss got to do with it??

**Vai**

And we thought women had it bad.

razorblunt

professore wrote: »

Nike trainers smell like crap after wearing once. Dog crap to be precise.

I agree, especially the mesh ones, though it tends to happen with Nike's that aren't taken care of properly or left to get damp.
Worked in a sports store when I way younger worst runners "smell" wise I say were apair of Adidas A3 (their equivalent to Shox) they stunk from the first wash.
I often find they smell like catpee though (similar smell to Penny's cardigans for girls).

1ZRed

Celly Smunt wrote: »

No,it's not about cut-boot jeans and cross hatch t-shirts.It's more about the crap like this everywhere.

See I wouldn't wear that, it's not my thing, but there are still clothes that look well and fit better, they just wouldn't look as overboard as those types of clothes. And being honest it's very rarely I see any lads wear stuff like that, gay or straight.

It's not just what they look like that changes, as in design, it's their fit as well. That flamboyant tshirt there will have a similar fit to a plainer one, it's just that that fit is the style that's going at the minute. So you still could look well and have that fit in your plainer tshirt, but just not look as over the top as that.

I know that because I have to trawl through all of that because many of that isn't my thing.

Gongoozler

Same for women really. hate shopping most of the time but its just awful when you cant find basic things like stuff for work or a regular pair of jeans.

ulinbac

Penneys/Primark do good t-shirts (most of the time). The bit that annoys me about them is the sleeve part. After about 6 months they stretch but look what you paid for them. Only buy their hoddies for gym. If I'm going on hols, I drop into Primark to see what they have.

Based on the clothes in the wardrobe and previous clothing:

Tommy Hilfiger - lasts a while and fits well
Boss - Great stuff. T-shirts aren't thick but last. Same for Jeans, tracksuit etc
Ralph Lauren - Worth the money. Fits and washes well
Calvin Klein - Only buy their jocks now. The rest is crap tbh
A&F - Comfortable and well made. Hoodies wear away a bit on the cuffs but nice and comfortable
Hollister - Same as A&F
Armani - Only have t-shirts, last ages!!
River Island - Hit and miss, some good, some ok
Top Man - Never again
Ted Baker - Look nice but don't last as long as wanted
Nike - Stopped buying their stuff
Jack and Jones - Jeans last a while but don't like the cut available. T-shirts ok
Urban Outfitters - Good Stuff
RDX - Best tracksuit bottoms ever!!!

Dravokivich

I've been having some horrible trouble trying to find a decent pair of jeans lately as well. All the ones in Pennys that should be my size are too damn tight. Seems men aren't expected to have legs these days with the infestation of skinny jeans. The stuff in Dunnes looks absolute cack too.

1ZRed

Speisekarte wrote: »

What's hair loss got to do with it??

It's just something I've seen very often in real life that the lads that bitch and moan about clothes these days would be lads with beer bellies, boot jeans and balding in their 30's. They'd be giving out everyone looks ridiculous and they can't find anything decent to wear, even though they wouldn't be wearing anything decent themselves.

It's just that they're passed the main focus of clothes brands who really only focus on men in their 20's, and when they were in their 20's the lads who were 30+ then would be saying the same about them as they do with men in their 20's now, and when I reach that age I'll probably be saying the same thing. Circle of life, but it just goes to show how f*cking redundant this whole "men's clothes are crap these days, but back in my day..." because it'll go on forever.

professore

1ZRed wrote: »

Yes, I love this mentality that because a tshirt doesn't cover your beer belly and won't match your boot cut jeans these days that men's clothes and fashion have gone to f*ck. There are loads of clothes that look well that won't have you looking like a homosexual, these are clothes more geared towards men in their 20's, not the 30 year old boot cut wearing lads who have a bad beer:exercise ratio which is more common here.

But of course, if you're not that balding lad in the pub with a belly and timberland boots, you've more testosterone because you don't wear anything that looks well, instead of the lads in their 20's who are generally in better shape and dress better to suit that.

They fit fine when you buy them .... they SHRINK vertically and EXPAND horzontally after a few washes - so actually if I HAD a beer belly, they would fit me better !!!! Having a wife and 2 kids I have no time to be hanging around in a pub anyway - prefer to spend any spare time I have training for 10K road races.

It's sad to hear the brand slaves parrot the same old crap about their favourite brands - showing their "individuality" by looking identical to 95% of their peers.

professore

The clothing manufacturers are missing a trick - you either have all this stuff aimed at 20 year olds or grandads, or possibly golf fanatics, and nothing in between. Ironically the 30 and 40 year old brigade would buy stuff aimed at them if there was any of it.

professore

Celly Smunt wrote: »

No,it's not about cut-boot jeans and cross hatch t-shirts.It's more about the crap like this everywhere.

If I had a son dressing like that I would be expecting an experience like this:

Actually Mike Heck (the dad)... there's a real man !!!!

Ush1

I used to have the view that brand names vs Penneys or Heatons had no real difference.

Bought 3 polo t shirts from Heatons, 7 euro each, that'll do nicely. Now the fit was a bit on the large side, then washed them once and they all came out like belly tops!! Bleedin' fumin' I was.:mad:

MJ23

I blame Jack and Jones.
The worst clothes ever. I shudder when I see someone in that crap.

missingtime

These days you seem to have to be super careful with how you wash your clothes. Using a dryer is a big no-no. I've ruined some really nice pieces of clothing by using the dryer.

Everything should be washed inside out and with a colour catcher and at a temperature between 30-40.

When washing polo's make sure you button the top button as the collar will hold its shape better.

For hoodies, you should really dry them flat. Hanging them when wet will cause them to misshapen.

That_Guy

Trying to find men's section in shops these days is difficult enough. You'd sooner find Jaysus.

syklops

1ZRed wrote: »

Clearly you can't tell the difference in quality between A&F and Penneys. They are WORLDS apart. I've a A&F hoodie that's 6 years old, hasn't faded or stretched at all, whereas anything from Penneys would disintegrate within a year.

Utter rubbish.

By 'would' you mean you have no experience of Penneys stuff and assume because it cost 20 euro, that its not good quality. You can't tell quality by the price.

I have hoodies and tops from Penneys that are 6 years old and older that are like the day I bought them.

ScumLord

professore wrote: »

They fit fine when you buy them .... they SHRINK vertically and EXPAND horzontally after a few washes -

I don't understand how the clothes manage to do this. You'd think if they shrink they'd shrink across the board. I feel like a 10 year old lad growing out of clothes again.

April O Neill

OneArt wrote: »

High heels were originally invented for men.

Someone else avidly reads the BBC News site, I see.

MJ23

MJ23 wrote: »

I blame Jack and Jones.
The worst clothes ever. I shudder when I see someone in that crap.

Their jeans are scratchy as ****

I bought a pair of canvas shoes in penneys a few years back, they literally fell apart the first time I wore them

My name is URL

This thread reminds me I need to buy some clothes... I've bought feck all over the last two years come to think of it. I usually just wear the crap out of stuff before I replace it. Never understood why people purchase more clothing than they actually need, but each to their own.

1ZRed wrote: »

Clearly you can't tell the difference in quality between A&F and Penneys. They are WORLDS apart. I've a A&F hoodie that's 6 years old, hasn't faded or stretched at all, whereas anything from Penneys would disintegrate within a year.

I've had a few pairs of A&F & Aeropastale tracksuit bottoms bought as gifts and they all started to disintegrate after a few was / dry cycles. In contrast to that I have a load of cheap ass stuff from Pennies which hold up fine in the wash.

A&F stuff isn't always of a high quality.. it doesn't mean that none of their stuff is good quality. It's all down to your own experiences, but to say that Penneys stuff is always of a worse quality to A&F etc is just plain wrong.

The hardness of your water could be the issue if clothes get destroyed after a few washes

syklops

Deleted User wrote: »

I bought a pair of canvas shoes in penneys a few years back, they literally fell apart the first time I wore them

Ergo all of their stuff is terrible. Is that your point?

Did you take them back?