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Problem taking over my life

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    kevpants wrote: »
    Absolutely. Not all of life's ills are caused by eating food that comes in a packet. The answer here is to see a doc, get a blood test etc. If you're a medically healthy person who feels like this then absolutely point the finger at the lifestyle.

    Since the start of the thread people have said see a doctor. Its been mentioned 1000 times already.
    kevpants wrote: »
    Just laughing at the people suggesting switching to a healthy lifestyle and feeding it to the kids as if it's that easy. Hate to break it to you but kids know what tastes like crap and vegetables generally taste like crap. We use stews and casseroles as vegetable cloaking systems for our kiddies meals but unfortunately you can't shield your kids from the wonders of chips and they know bloody well a fucking parsnip fry is not a chip so please don't anyone chime in with that particular chestnut.
    This is the biggest load of horse**** ever.
    Youre veg may taste like crap. not all veg
    And your kids hate your veg so you need to hid it. That works great when the metro want a new filler story to fill the rag but kids eat what you feed them, feed them good food and they will eat good food.
    Not being able to give veg to your kids is an excuse.


    kevpants wrote: »
    Don't bother with the dietician, is that serious advice? "Eat more veg", gee thanks professor.

    Yes, a dietician is a professional. We are an internet forum. We cannot give medical advice a dietican can.
    We discuss the diet part of the thread because that is what we are permitted to discuss. We dont recommend treatments, we dont diagnose, we dont recommend steroids or medicine.

    We can recommend eat more veg, eat more fat, eat less sugar. We are lucky because in this case, it's probably correct too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭seosamh1980


    Sensor wrote: »
    Balls! Some people have a higher than thou concept of themselves and a fat full of smugness!

    And some people have no concept of how to take good advice when they ask for it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Sensor


    And some people have no concept of how to take good advice when they ask for it!


    Oh yes sorry ,thanks professor, eat more veg! Thats why i can feel bad for a while and then all of a sudden feel better!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Sensor wrote: »
    Who said i was ignoring?

    Your name suits you!

    You did, when you kept going on and on about eating healthy food and it making you fall asleep. yet you werent eating healthy food.

    "duh, i am eating healthy all the time, go ahead bars are healthy, it says so on the packet"
    Sensor wrote: »
    I ate my go ahead yoghurt slices because it was either that or a bar of choc form the sandwich place.
    Following the advice there to the letter I see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    Chicken

    pm'd in 2 mins

    thegreatiam, can you PM me the recipe for the chilli as well?

    Also you mentioned the peanut cookies, are they a healthy version that you make, or just regular cookies with peanuts?
    Eating a healthy diet is the cure for cancer apparently. Can cure anything in the world!

    My dog is a bit sleepy lately, nothing but vegetables rice and spuds from now on smile.png
    The reality is that a good diet can help (note I said help not cure) a lot of ailments. My husband has crohns decease and our diet in general isn’t great. But a few weeks ago, we started eating more fruit, veg and salads and his symptoms were improved within a couple of days. We have slid back a bit as we use the same excuses as the OP, no time, too much hassle, too much expense… but the truth is, that’s all they are – excuses. I am going to use this thread as inspiration and really try and work on our diet once and for all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Sensor


    You did, when you kept going on and on about eating healthy food and it making you fall asleep. yet you werent eating healthy food.

    "duh, i am eating healthy all the time, go ahead bars are healthy, it says so on the packet"


    Following the advice there to the letter I see

    Ah now theres no need for that. A good discussion is fine but thats just immature


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    Sensor wrote: »
    Ah now theres no need for that. A good discussion is fine but thats just immature

    If anyone is being immature here it's you.

    You are just calling the people who are trying to help you smug etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Sensor


    If anyone is being immature here it's you.

    You are just calling the people who are trying to help you smug etc.


    Because they are being smug! Theres more than me have said that already. I came here, not being disrespectful to anyone.

    Mostly for a bit of a chat. Not to waste anyones time but also not to sit on my own reading for hours on end and experimenting or self diagnosing. Another persons point of view is invaluable sometimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    Sensor wrote: »
    Because they are being smug! Theres more than me have said that already. I came here, not being disrespectful to anyone.

    Sorry love but calling someone smug who's trying to help you is disrespectful.

    If everyone one else was eating crappy food and claiming it to be healthy would you do that also....oh wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    ncmc wrote: »
    thegreatiam, can you PM me the recipe for the chilli as well?

    Also you mentioned the peanut cookies, are they a healthy version that you make, or just regular cookies with peanuts?
    The chilli is basically beef and pork mince, with rattlesnake pieces and chillis. loads of spices (cumin, cayanne, chilli powder, worcester sauce, fish sauce, paprika)
    then simmered in beer or red wine for a few hours.
    For rattlesnake just use chicken or turkey it taste pretty much the same. Cut it into long thin strips and tell people it is rattlesnake and they will believe you.

    The peanut cookies is a jar of peanut butter, mixed with protein powder and stevia (1/4 cup) and 2 eggs baked for 10 mins at 160. I got it from eliteFTS i think.
    I wouldnt say they are healthy, but they are low carb. depending on how big you make them they can be 100 cals each tho.
    I made them for the first time this week, theyve lasted about 5 days before starting to soften. They are a little dry, (like eating peanut butter) so defo serve with milk.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Sensor


    Sorry love but calling someone smug who's trying to help you is disrespectful.

    If everyone one else was eating crappy food and claiming it to be healthy would you do that also....oh wait.


    Probably would tbh, i trust what people say and try to live an honest life.

    I think if a food company puts healthy or "one of you 5 a day" on their packets they probably are telling the truth. But thats just me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    The chilli is basically beef and pork mince, with rattlesnake pieces and chillis. loads of spices (cumin, cayanne, chilli powder, worcester sauce, fish sauce, paprika)
    then simmered in beer or red wine for a few hours.
    For rattlesnake just use chicken or turkey it taste pretty much the same. Cut it into long thin strips and tell people it is rattlesnake and they will believe you.

    The peanut cookies is a jar of peanut butter, mixed with protein powder and stevia (1/4 cup) and 2 eggs baked for 10 mins at 160. I got it from eliteFTS i think.
    I wouldnt say they are healthy, but they are low carb. depending on how big you make them they can be 100 cals each tho.
    I made them for the first time this week, theyve lasted about 5 days before starting to soften. They are a little dry, (like eating peanut butter) so defo serve with milk.
    Thanks for both of those, I do a lot of running so the peanut butter cookies sound perfect for energy instead of gels etc.

    I'm going to Wyoming on hols in a few weeks, will see if I can test the 'rattlesnake tastes like chicken theory :pac:'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Sensor wrote: »
    Probably would tbh, i trust what people say and try to live an honest life.

    I think if a food company puts healthy or "one of you 5 a day" on their packets they probably are telling the truth. But thats just me.

    that is true. and it means nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    facepalm.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    ncmc wrote: »
    Thanks for both of those, I do a lot of running so the peanut butter cookies sound perfect for energy instead of gels etc.

    I'm going to Wyoming on hols in a few weeks, will see if I can test the 'rattlesnake tastes like chicken theory :pac:'

    you should defo get it there, I had it in texas. where the recipe came from

    the cookies would do well for a runner, better than carrying a jar of peanut butter around ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭westies4ever




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam



    nice, good find;-)

    advice from that thread
    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    Your diet is what has you tired all the time. If you are excersing you need good fats and high protein foods into you. Cut the carbs.

    Agree to disagree with me if you like but anything that has "low fat" or "low sugars" probably has more fat, sugars then your average bar etc.

    deja vu


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Sensor wrote: »
    Ah now theres no need for that. A good discussion is fine but thats just immature
    People here are trying to help you, I see nothing to cause offense, apart from your brimful of smugness remark, tbh.

    You are blithely ignoring the majority of whats been discussed here, and coming up with a variety of reasons and excuses why you feel unwell, without apparrently taking on board anything that has been suggested, such as getting checked out medically or making bigger attempts to improve your diet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Sensor


    nice, good find;-)

    advice from that thread


    deja vu


    Your advice then, for the same symptoms as you can see was get a good nights rest. . . :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Sensor


    Oryx wrote: »
    People here are trying to help you, I see nothing to cause offense, apart from your brimful of smugness remark, tbh.

    You are blithely ignoring the majority of whats been discussed here, and coming up with a variety of reasons and excuses why you feel unwell, without apparrently taking on board anything that has been suggested, such as getting checked out medically or making bigger attempts to improve your diet.

    How do you know? I have a doctors appointment and ive already said im gona change the low fat stuff!

    This is crap! I feel ok some of the time. In fact since monday ive felt really well with lots of energy and waking up ok. Before then i felt bad and i dont know why.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32 canyoudigit


    Sensor wrote: »
    How do you know? I have a doctors appointment and ive already said im gona change the low fat stuff!

    This is crap! I feel ok some of the time. In fact since monday ive felt really well with lots of energy and waking up ok. Before then i felt bad and i dont know why.

    Your Bipolar - Are you a total frickin rock star from Mars? WINNING


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,216 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    I am baffled to see that people are confidently diagnosing a health issue on the basis of simply reviewing a person's diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 QuantumAoif


    Discostuy wrote: »
    I knew someone in a similar condition which turned out to be an underactive thyroid problem. Might be worth speaking with a GP and narrowing down the possible causes.

    Alcohol has a huge affect on energy and tiredness. Drinking a JD every night will tire your body, but the sleep you get won't be the same as a normal sleep.
    Rather than recharging energy, your body will be working to break down the drink and repair the body. You'll most likely find you'll walk up groggy and equally tired.


    Just want to reemphasise thyroid. Get your bloods checked for hormones T3 and T4, could also be hyperactive. That might explain sore dry eyes. Very treatable. Best thing in any case is to get a full blood count done but you have to ask for the thyroid levels to be checked. Hypo (underactive) is quite common Hyper (overactive) not so much, but both can lead to side effects of extreme tiredness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Sensor wrote: »
    Your advice then, for the same symptoms as you can see was get a good nights rest. . . :confused:

    and did you follow the advice?

    In September was when I started to seriously look at my diet and learn the things I know now. I dint recommend diet adjustments because I was learning about diet adjustments. Someone else did tho.

    See that's how it works, you read, you learn you adjust accordingly.

    And in this 10 months have you adjusted your diet?


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Sensor wrote: »
    How do you know? I have a doctors appointment and ive already said im gona change the low fat stuff!

    This is crap! I feel ok some of the time. In fact since monday ive felt really well with lots of energy and waking up ok. Before then i felt bad and i dont know why.
    Good on you for the doc thing. I hope they can advise you on things we can't.

    Keep a food diary, and record how you feel. You never know, you may find a trigger. Its no harm either way.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Sangre wrote: »
    I am baffled to see that people are confidently diagnosing a health issue on the basis of simply reviewing a person's diet.
    But they are not. They are suggesting changes to an obviously poor diet, in addition to taking medical advice, which has been repeatedly mentioned throughout this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,869 ✭✭✭thegreatiam


    Sangre wrote: »
    I am baffled to see that people are confidently diagnosing a health issue on the basis of simply reviewing a person's diet.

    be as baffled as you like, but the phrase "go to a doctor or a dietician or a professional" appears in every 3rd post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Sensor


    Just want to reemphasise thyroid. Get your bloods checked for hormones T3 and T4, could also be hyperactive. That might explain sore dry eyes. Very treatable. Best thing in any case is to get a full blood count done but you have to ask for the thyroid levels to be checked. Hypo (underactive) is quite common Hyper (overactive) not so much, but both can lead to side effects of extreme tiredness.

    Thanks Quantum, another bit of advice i wouldnt get from the stickies and 100 + posts in and still more things to explore!

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭westies4ever


    Sangre wrote: »
    I am baffled to see that people are confidently diagnosing a health issue on the basis of simply reviewing a person's diet.


    we're not; he posted his diet and we advised him it was poor and may be part of the problem. he has been advised over and over to go to the doctor and thankfully he has made an appointment.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Sensor


    and did you follow the advice?

    In September was when I started to seriously look at my diet and learn the things I know now. I dint recommend diet adjustments because I was learning about diet adjustments. Someone else did tho.

    See that's how it works, you read, you learn you adjust accordingly.

    And in this 10 months have you adjusted your diet?

    Yes, more fruit and veg (including brocolli) and less sugar and fat. Now i need more protein and fat and still less sugar . . . .i think!


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