Leaving a bowl of fresh water outdoors could save an animals life

kraggy · 08-07-2013 04:46PM

true-or-false wrote: »

Firstly I'd like to see your source for lots of Irish animals dying of thirst.

Secondly, the ocean is not the only water found in nature. That's ridiculous.

Thirdly, there's a lot of water in food, any animal that's getting a meal is getting water too, and if they were desperate they could ingest water through plants. They already eat plants for their digestion anyway.

Where did I suggest that the ocean is the only place to find water?

I didn't. I said it doesn't count. i.e. of all the water sources, it's the one that definitely doesn't qualify as it's got too much salt content so it should be disregarded from the total number of sources.

If you can't see the implication of that in my post, then I suggest you read it again.

PS the op dealt mainly with strays. Strays don't get regular meals. So water through that means is not applicable.

MadsL · 08-07-2013 04:54PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

What's this "stay fcuking classy AH" nonsense about?

Why would you pigeon hole an entire forum with the posts of a few?

Oh the ironing is delicious.

Can call Americans "f*cking weirdos" on AH but the mod objects to pigeon-holing of the forum.

Too funny.

wil · 08-07-2013 06:59PM

dark crystal wrote: »

I left out a bowl of water for a stray cat who was taking a nap in my garden yesterday - poor little thing drank the whole lot in one go.

I might make a little makeshift bird bath today too.

It's nice to be nice people!

It's easy to be nice to nice people.:)

It's how you treat the other b'tards differently nice that really says more about you than them

08-07-2013 07:21PM

kraggy wrote: »

Where did I suggest that the ocean is the only place to find water?

PS the op dealt mainly with strays. Strays don't get regular meals. So water through that means is not applicable.

You said that animals aren't always near water. They are, unless they're trapped somewhere.

And if we're going to play the snotty "read my post again because if you think I'm wrong you must have misread me" game, watch out for the bit in mine where I never said strays get regular meals.

Anyway, if an animal can't find food for itself, why keep it hydrated to prolong the starvation?

Riddle101 · 08-07-2013 07:41PM

We get foxes around my area. Don't think they care all that much for water, they're looking for something to eat. But in the case of cats, we leave a basin full of water in our back garden. It's supposed to be our dog's drinking water, but if a cat wants a drink, then by all means. We keep the dog inside the house at night anyway so it shouldn't be a problem.

Pumpkinseeds · 08-07-2013 08:15PM

true-or-false wrote: »

You said that animals aren't always near water. They are, unless they're trapped somewhere.

And if we're going to play the snotty "read my post again because if you think I'm wrong you must have misread me" game, watch out for the bit in mine where I never said strays get regular meals.

Anyway, if an animal can't find food for itself, why keep it hydrated to prolong the starvation?

You seem to have a rather strange attitude to animals. I'm not really sure what you have against helping vulnerable animals. As for letting a stray starve to death, only a truly sick human being would ignore a starving animal. If someone finds a starving animal and they are unwilling to feed it they can always contact a rescue to help it.

It's no skin off my nose if you choose to leave water out or not. All I'm trying to do is encourage people to make life easier for the animals in there area. Attacking a post and asking for figures on animals that you know the poster can't provide is questionable in what is a harmless thread aimed at putting some drinking water out for animals/wildlife that might need it.

Just to recap, it's about putting drinking water out for animals, not a p*ssing contest between someone who thinks animals should be left to die and someone who wants to help them.

UCDVet · 08-07-2013 08:25PM

I thought it was generally accepted that feeding/providing water for animals was a bad thing?

It encourages over-population and, over time, leads to even more dependence. Then you have a local population of wildlife that can't survive on it's own, that is a probable nuisance (after all, who cleans up after the animals you feed?), and that doesn't have anyone who officially is responsible for their care.

If you have a pet, great. But you are responsible for that pet. You have an obligation to it, and if you fail to take care of the pet; there are consequences. It's okay that your dog can't survive on it's own because, you will take care of it. You won't let it roam, and you won't let it crap in the neighbors lawn or bite their children (and if you did, you'd be responsible for those actions).

But feeding stray animals, even with the best of intentions has a lot of potential problems.

Four Reasons Not to Feed Wild Animals
http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/resources/tips/feed_wildlife.html

Please Don't Feed The Wildlife
http://www.enr.gov.nt.ca/_live/documents/content/Don't_Feed_the_Wildlife.pdf

Please don't feed the animals
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/animals/KeepingWildlifeWild.htm

Pumpkinseeds · 08-07-2013 08:31PM

UCDVet wrote: »

I thought it was generally accepted that feeding/providing water for animals was a bad thing?

It encourages over-population and, over time, leads to even more dependence. Then you have a local population of wildlife that can't survive on it's own, that is a probable nuisance (after all, who cleans up after the animals you feed?), and that doesn't have anyone who officially is responsible for their care.

If you have a pet, great. But you are responsible for that pet. You have an obligation to it, and if you fail to take care of the pet; there are consequences. It's okay that your dog can't survive on it's own because, you will take care of it. You won't let it roam, and you won't let it crap in the neighbors lawn or bite their children (and if you did, you'd be responsible for those actions).

But feeding stray animals, even with the best of intentions has a lot of potential problems.

Four Reasons Not to Feed Wild Animals
http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/resources/tips/feed_wildlife.html

Please Don't Feed The Wildlife
http://www.enr.gov.nt.ca/_live/documents/content/Don't_Feed_the_Wildlife.pdf

Please don't feed the animals
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/animals/KeepingWildlifeWild.htm

What has this got to do with helping thirsty animals or wildlife in Ireland. I'm fairly certain that there are no kangaroos or possums in Clare

08-07-2013 08:35PM

I have orange juice, best before 5/7/13.

Will that suffice?

tallaghtmick · 09-07-2013 08:19AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

My dog has taken to knacker drinking WKD Blue and West Coast Cooler with the local kids.

Bit harsh calling your missus a Dog

returnNull · 09-07-2013 08:31AM

Jogathon wrote: »

Just cleaned out the green stagnant water in my parents' water feature. Good deed done. :-)

its only a good deed if you put water back in though.....:)

Sam Kade · 09-07-2013 08:32AM

For anyone that believe there is plenty water in streams and rivers for wildlife, crows won't drink from a running water source only pools of water. You will see plenty dead crows around the place in the week ahead.

Dravokivich · 09-07-2013 08:37AM

MadsL wrote: »

Oh the ironing is delicious.

Can call Americans "f*cking weirdos" on AH but the mod objects to pigeon-holing of the forum.

Too funny.

The problem is with intent and judging by the amount of people supporting Micky's post, a lot of us are tired of people derailing threads with an ill conceived perception of AH. It was even brought up in the feedback thread. None of the posts being questioned in this thread were serious. Yet somehow people think AH is a haven of disturbed individuals because of'em. Because of something that wasn't serious or actually meant anything?

Poor Uncle Tom · 09-07-2013 08:59AM

Nemeses wrote: »

Except birds - They tend to sh!te all over my car... Not impressed birds... not impressed.

You'd want to find a classier joint than Coppers so!

corktina · 09-07-2013 09:02AM

i applaud the sentiment but there's an effin great river in most towns, wild animals don't die of thirst... neglected tame ones do, but can they get to someone else's garden to find bowl of water.

kraggy · 09-07-2013 11:47AM

true-or-false wrote: »

You said that animals aren't always near water. They are, unless they're trapped somewhere.

And if we're going to play the snotty "read my post again because if you think I'm wrong you must have misread me" game, watch out for the bit in mine where I never said strays get regular meals.

Anyway, if an animal can't find food for itself, why keep it hydrated to prolong the starvation?

Are you a native English speaker? Because you seem to be misunderstanding things.

I mentioned strays because strays were mentioned earlier. Then you said "any animal getting regular meals...".

A stray doesn't get regular meals. Animals who are fed regularly are not the only animals out there.

Also, it is false what you say about all animals being near to water. Especially at this time of year when streams have dried up.

Sam Kade · 09-07-2013 12:35PM

corktina wrote: »

i applaud the sentiment but there's an effin great river in most towns, wild animals don't die of thirst... neglected tame ones do, but can they get to someone else's garden to find bowl of water.

Watch out for dead crows over the coming days

Israeli Superiority · 09-07-2013 02:10PM

Give stray cats water? Even though they fights in the middle of the night and wake people up? Fúck that, I'd rather see them dehydrate to death. They are little fúckers.

MadsL · 09-07-2013 02:20PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

The problem is with intent and judging by the amount of people supporting Micky's post, a lot of us are tired of people derailing threads with an ill conceived perception of AH. It was even brought up in the feedback thread. None of the posts being questioned in this thread were serious. Yet somehow people think AH is a haven of disturbed individuals because of'em. Because of something that wasn't serious or actually meant anything?

The point I am making is that the perception of AH as "a haven of disturbed individuals" is probably enhanced by the fact that it is deemed acceptable to post xenophobic comments about a whole nation. I find it ironic that Mickey gets offended by how a non-identifiable group (AH) is perceived but the mods have decided that insulting all Americans is perfectly acceptable. Baffling to me.

However, speaking of derailing, we are.

daveyeh · 09-07-2013 03:35PM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

pigeon hole

:pac:

sxt · 09-07-2013 03:50PM

If there are any late night party animals in your house, leave a bowl of water on their bedside table

miss no stars · 09-07-2013 04:05PM

UCDVet wrote: »

I thought it was generally accepted that feeding/providing water for animals was a bad thing?

It encourages over-population and, over time, leads to even more dependence. Then you have a local population of wildlife that can't survive on it's own, that is a probable nuisance (after all, who cleans up after the animals you feed?), and that doesn't have anyone who officially is responsible for their care.

If you have a pet, great. But you are responsible for that pet. You have an obligation to it, and if you fail to take care of the pet; there are consequences. It's okay that your dog can't survive on it's own because, you will take care of it. You won't let it roam, and you won't let it crap in the neighbors lawn or bite their children (and if you did, you'd be responsible for those actions).

But feeding stray animals, even with the best of intentions has a lot of potential problems.

Four Reasons Not to Feed Wild Animals
http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/resources/tips/feed_wildlife.html

Please Don't Feed The Wildlife
http://www.enr.gov.nt.ca/_live/documents/content/Don't_Feed_the_Wildlife.pdf

Please don't feed the animals
http://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/animals/KeepingWildlifeWild.htm

Those links are about feeding. All the OP suggested was water. Besides, if it was a constant thing, fair enough, but this is Ireland. How frequently do we get this type of weather? (Not very, is the answer). There's plenty of wildlife (if not most wildlife) who've never experienced hot dry weather like this. It's out of the norm completely. Putting out a bowl of water for a passing thirsty animal isn't going to cause massive problems.

For Forks Sake · 09-07-2013 04:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I have orange juice, best before 5/7/13.

Will that suffice?

Probably. But you're still going to need water to clean up after whatever animal drinks the juice and ****es themselves all over the place.

stefan idiot jones · 09-07-2013 04:16PM

There is just no pleasing some people is there ?

One minute you are complaining about the warm weather and the mosquitos, the next you are putting water out for animals.
Standing water is the perfect breeding ground for mozzies.

So the next time you think about saving a cats life, just think about the dozens of poor children of Ireland that are shaking, sweating and ****ting the bed because of malaria.

If you find a cat that is thirsty, find a river and..............

Pumpkinseeds · 09-07-2013 04:43PM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

There is just no pleasing some people is there ?

One minute you are complaining about the warm weather and the mosquitos, the next you are putting water out for animals.
Standing water is the perfect breeding ground for mozzies.

So the next time you think about saving a cats life, just think about the dozens of poor children of Ireland that are shaking, sweating and ****ting the bed because of malaria.

If you find a cat that is thirsty, find a river and..............

Feed the cat chicken while it enjoys watching you drown idiot jones:P:D

Pug160 · 09-07-2013 05:07PM

I think feeding smaller birds and putting out a birdbath is alright, as smaller birds can be vulnerable and need a bit of help. But I don't think feeding every animal in the neighbourhood is a good idea.

CastingCouch · 09-07-2013 05:16PM

You'd swear that all the water has been evaporated. There's loads of water still.

Speisekarte · 09-07-2013 05:51PM

Pug160 wrote: »

I think feeding smaller birds and putting out a birdbath is alright, as smaller birds can be vulnerable and need a bit of help. But I don't think feeding every animal in the neighbourhood is a good idea.

Thanks for your insight Pug.

Pug, making the world a better place since 2012.

Pug160 · 09-07-2013 06:07PM

Speisekarte wrote: »

Thanks for your insight Pug.

Pug, making the world a better place since 2012.

You're welcome.

Pumpkinseeds · 09-07-2013 06:34PM

Pug160 wrote: »

I think feeding smaller birds and putting out a birdbath is alright, as smaller birds can be vulnerable and need a bit of help. But I don't think feeding every animal in the neighbourhood is a good idea.

I wasn't suggesting feeding all the strays in the neighbourhood. It's great if people do feed strays, our 3 cats were all strays that arrived over the years in various states of neglect. As I said in an earlier post, if people don't want to feed strays they can contact a rescue or shelter who will do their best to help the animal. At the very least neutering/spaying them and having them vet checked.

I feed strays in an area near me, every day I leave a litre of fresh water in a bowl and this morning there wasn't a drop left in the bowl. Where they are is quiet woody alongside an apartment complex so they have shelter and I'd say that there's probably hedgehogs etc drinking the water. I think being aware of and trying to help vulnerable animals in our communities ultimately benefits both the animals and the community.

Leaving a bowl of fresh water outdoors could save an animals life

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