The Anglo Irish Tapes

Tragamin2k2 · 03-07-2013 01:20AM

lads who released the tapes? who recorded the calls?

audman · 03-07-2013 01:23AM

Tragamin2k2 wrote: »

lads who released the tapes? who recorded the calls?

The tape releasers and the call recorders AFAIK. I'm not 100% sure to be honest with you but that is certainly what I heard. If I dare to be so frank with you that is what I believe to be true also.

bearhugs · 03-07-2013 02:35AM

Apologies, I'm on a mobile so can't search the thread. I'm sure it's been suggested already but would it not make more sense to be pro active rather than protesting? And not a strike either, something that hurts les people, like no one paying thot mortgage for a month?

fibonaccii · 03-07-2013 03:37AM

bearhugs wrote: »

Apologies, I'm on a mobile so can't search the thread. I'm sure it's been suggested already but would it not make more sense to be pro active rather than protesting? And not a strike either, something that hurts les people, like no one paying thot mortgage for a month?

Or how about everyone picks a day and takes out their money from the banks. So we go on kinda strike against the banks, show them really who is control.....

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 05:56AM

fibonaccii wrote: »

Or how about everyone picks a day and takes out their money from the banks. So we go on kinda strike against the banks, show them really who is control.....

They would charge for the transactions and make millions. Better for thousands to start changing banks. One day all aib move to boi and vice versa. Next day move from those to ulster bank and tsb. Next day move back to original banks. Ties the staff up for days. Also make mass appointments with bank managers again tie them up for days.

another one is go into banks with 20 euro and ask for bag of 20 cents then when you have that go to back of the queue and when back at counter ask for a ten a five and five singles. Rinse and repeat with 30 people ties up a bank all day.

Worztron · 03-07-2013 07:08AM

AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »

More bank 'corruption' announced today

RBS and Barclays face yet another banking scandal...

I recommend people watch the documentary Inside Job (2010) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1645089/

nino1 · 03-07-2013 08:52AM

bumper234 wrote: »

another one is go into banks with 20 euro and ask for bag of 20 cents then when you have that go to back of the queue and when back at counter ask for a ten a five and five singles. Rinse and repeat with 30 people ties up a bank all day.

what exactly will that achieve?

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 08:55AM

nino1 wrote: »

what exactly will that achieve?

If you have a couple of hundred people doing this day after day it ties up the bank staff. It minimizes the profits banks can make and it WILL get press and bring the spotlight onto how people feel about the banks. Or maybe you know we shouldn't do anything. Let RTE avoid showing anything about Anglo tapes and protests and let it just die out as everything else does in this country?

raymon · 03-07-2013 09:31AM

bumper234 wrote: »

If you have a couple of hundred people doing this day after day it ties up the bank staff. It minimizes the profits banks can make and it WILL get press and bring the spotlight onto how people feel about the banks. Or maybe you know we shouldn't do anything. Let RTE avoid showing anything about Anglo tapes and protests and let it just die out as everything else does in this country?

How will that send a message to Drumm , Michael Martin, Fingleton, Cowen, Bowe , etc etc

I don't get it.

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 09:35AM

raymon wrote: »

How will that send a message to Drumm , Michael Martin, Fingleton, Cowen, Bowe , etc etc

I don't get it.

It sends a message to this "government" that the people are sick of this. It sends a message to the current heads of banking and to the "regulators" that people are sick of this. It sends a message to the world that the people of Ireland are at least TRYING to do something.

Please feel free to post your own ideas on how you would get the message into the media and out to the world. Whats your plan/idea to protest about this?

Sierra Oscar · 03-07-2013 09:35AM

raymon wrote: »

I take it nobody knows then . Ah well

I hear that the usual individuals associated with the 'Workers Solidarity Movement', aka the anarchist movement, seem to be heavily involved in its organization.

Regardless it will be interesting to see if it can garner more widespread support outside of the group that usually show up at protests.

Ash.J.Williams · 03-07-2013 09:45AM

bumper234 wrote: »

It sends a message to this "government" that the people are sick of this. It sends a message to the current heads of banking and to the "regulators" that people are sick of this. It sends a message to the world that the people of Ireland are at least TRYING to do something.

Please feel free to post your own ideas on how you would get the message into the media and out to the world. Whats your plan/idea to protest about this?

no it won't...the only way to protest is to block traffic, wouldn't take long to block up the city centre

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 09:47AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

no it won't...the only way to protest is to block traffic, wouldn't take long to block up the city centre

So....block ordinary citizens trying to go about their business but leave the banks open and running as normal making millions a day off the same ordinary citizens

It wouldn't take long to burn the city either maybe that could be the next step???:rolleyes:

Ash.J.Williams · 03-07-2013 09:53AM

bumper234 wrote: »

So....block ordinary citizens trying to go about their business but leave the banks open and running as normal making millions a day off the same ordinary citizens It wouldn't take long to burn the city either maybe that could be the next step???:rolleyes:

the bank crisis was 5 years ago...what's the point in ruining innocent bank assistants days by feckin around like a tool asking them to count coins like they are some sort of slave and you lording over them with some sort of stupid grin on your face like you've just achieved something...

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 10:02AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

the bank crisis was 5 years ago...what's the point in ruining innocent bank assistants days by feckin around like a tool asking them to count coins like they are some sort of slave and you lording over them with some sort of stupid grin on your face like you've just achieved something...

Who said we should LORD over them? In fact i would actively encourage everyone to be as nice as possible to the cashiers and explain that you know they didn't cause the crisis and you are sorry for being a nuisance. Bank staff get paid whether they are counting pennies or counting notes you know.

On the flip side

what's the point in ruining innocent Dublin citizens days by feckin around like a tool asking them to take a 3 mile detour around you pissy little road block like they are some sort of slave and you lording over them with some sort of stupid grin on your face like you've just achieved something...

raymon · 03-07-2013 10:10AM

bumper234 wrote: »

It sends a message to this "government" that the people are sick of this. It sends a message to the current heads of banking and to the "regulators" that people are sick of this. It sends a message to the world that the people of Ireland are at least TRYING to do something.

Please feel free to post your own ideas on how you would get the message into the media and out to the world. Whats your plan/idea to protest about this?

I don't think it sends a good message for an incoherent group with no focus to be protesting about " stuff".

Why not think about who you are angry with and focus your protest on them .

What are you sick of and who is the root cause. Who caused this to happen ?

Hardly a bank teller counting out pennies was responsible for the Anglo Tapes , or bankrupting the country.

Ash.J.Williams · 03-07-2013 10:20AM

bumper234 wrote: »

Who said we should LORD over them? In fact i would actively encourage everyone to be as nice as possible to the cashiers and explain that you know they didn't cause the crisis and you are sorry for being a nuisance. Bank staff get paid whether they are counting pennies or counting notes you know.

On the flip side

what's the point in ruining innocent Dublin citizens days by feckin around like a tool asking them to take a 3 mile detour around you pissy little road block like they are some sort of slave and you lording over them with some sort of stupid grin on your face like you've just achieved something...

you actually think a bank teller would see your point and appreciate your actions and agree that they still get paid even if you ask them to disrespect themselves?

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 10:29AM

raymon wrote: »

I don't think it sends a good message for an incoherent group with no focus to be protesting about " stuff".

Why not think about who you are angry with and focus your protest on them .

What are you sick of and who is the root cause. Who caused this to happen ?

Hardly a bank teller counting out pennies was responsible for the Anglo Tapes , or bankrupting the country.

Nope you are right there, But it's not just Anglo is it?

AIB

In 2009, Allied Irish Banks along with its competitor Bank of Ireland accepted a 3.5 billion euro bailout from the government of the Republic of Ireland as a part of the Bank Recapitalisation scheme.[4] By March 2011 the total sum of required bailout was expected to climb up to 13.3 billion euro.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_Irish_Banks

BOI

None of the directors received a performance bonus. Bank of Ireland, which has received a total of €4.7 billion in State aid since the onset of the banking crisis, has not paid a performance bonus since 2008.

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/richie-boucher-pay-2012-838056-Mar2013/

PTSB

The State is unlikely to recoup in full the net €2.7 billion it provided in bailout funds to Permanent TSB Bank, its chief executive Jeremy Masding has told The Irish Times

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/financial-services/permanent-tsb-chief-says-bank-unlikely-to-repay-all-bailout-funds-1.1342288

You seem to have missed this bit so i will repost for you.

Please feel free to post your own ideas on how you would get the message into the media and out to the world. Whats your plan/idea to protest about this?

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 10:32AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

you actually think a bank teller would see your point and appreciate your actions and agree that they still get paid even if you ask them to disrespect themselves?

And do you think the HUNDREDS of people who are trying to go about their daily lives will appreciate a road block!

Drivers missing deliveries.

People taking kids out for the day.

People trying to get some shopping done.

At least my idea means the protest is taken to the BANKS who if you remember are the root cause of this. :rolleyes:

And who is asking them to "disrespect themselves"?

Ash.J.Williams · 03-07-2013 10:41AM

bumper234 wrote: »

And do you think the HUNDREDS of people who are trying to go about their daily lives will appreciate a road block!

Drivers missing deliveries.

People taking kids out for the day.

People trying to get some shopping done.

At least my idea means the protest is taken to the BANKS who if you remember are the root cause of this. :rolleyes:

And who is asking them to "disrespect themselves"?

as i said..it was 5 years ago....the bank tellers have nothing to do with it...

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 10:46AM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

as i said..it was 5 years ago....the bank tellers have nothing to do with it...

You are right....but the bastards that caused it are still working for the banks on huge salary's. But lets not bother them let's leave their business to run as normal....no wonder they are laughing at us:rolleyes:

AnOrdinaryJoe · 03-07-2013 11:00AM

bumper234 wrote: »

They would charge for the transactions and make millions. Better for thousands to start changing banks. One day all aib move to boi and vice versa. Next day move from those to ulster bank and tsb. Next day move back to original banks. Ties the staff up for days. Also make mass appointments with bank managers again tie them up for days.

another one is go into banks with 20 euro and ask for bag of 20 cents then when you have that go to back of the queue and when back at counter ask for a ten a five and five singles. Rinse and repeat with 30 people ties up a bank all day.

This is good...... and it would make an impact...... and it's a relatively simple way for ordinary hacked off people to make a point.

AnOrdinaryJoe · 03-07-2013 11:03AM

Worztron wrote: »

I recommend people watch the documentary Inside Job (2010) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1645089/

'We see a lot of cocaine use..... prostitution'

Well whaddya know..... banksters breaking the law...... who would have thought it !

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 11:04AM

AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »

This is good...... and it would make an impact...... and it's a relatively simple way for ordinary hacked off people to make a point.

Exactly. If this was organized for one day in every (most) branches of the big 3 it would soon get the attention of the government. How much would they lose in taxes if this took place, How much would banks lose in a day if this took place? And the good thing is people who are working can also take part...take your lunch break for one day in the bank, even if you don't make it to the top of the queue you are there taking part.

Valetta · 03-07-2013 11:07AM

another one is go into banks with 20 euro and ask for bag of 20 cents then when you have that go to back of the queue and when back at counter ask for a ten a five and five singles. Rinse and repeat with 30 people ties up a bank all day.

Exactly. If this was organized for one day in every (most) branches of the big 3 it would soon get the attention of the government. How much would they lose in taxes if this took place, How much would banks lose in a day if this took place? And the good thing is people who are working can also take part...take your lunch break for one day in the bank, even if you don't make it to the top of the queue you are there taking part.

AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »

This is good...... and it would make an impact...... and it's a relatively simple way for ordinary hacked off people to make a point.

Children will be childish, I suppose.

AnOrdinaryJoe · 03-07-2013 11:14AM

Reading some of the recent posts on this thread it appears to me that there might possibly be a couple of posters who may not be, for want of a better expression, 'disrespectful' of the banksters or the activities of the banking in general...... maybe a few bank employees themselves who knows.

Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion.... and of course not everyone working in a bank i.e. tellers, etc are responsible for the immoralities and illegalities within the banking system.

But what cannot be overlooked is the fact that within the banking system there is a small army of compliant employees (usually known as 'officials') who do the bidding of their masters, who were well aware of what was going on, who took the monthly pay cheque whilst knowing what was going on, who turned a blind eye to what was going on, who didn't report wrongdoings they were aware of....... whether some care to accept it or not..... THOSE BANK EMPLOYEES / OFFICIALS ARE COMPLICIT.

A relatively small number of the most senior officials i.e. CEO's, Chairmen and the like could not have 'achieved' everything they 'achieved' on their own...... in order for their organisations to function in the way they did, those fat cats needed a small army of co-conspirators.

Aside from persons within 'the system' i.e. from within the state, the regulatory bodies, etc....... the co-conspirator group includes some so called 'ordinary' bank employees /officials..... FACT !

RiverOfLove · 03-07-2013 11:15AM

Wishing everybody who is going out protesting the very best of luck for the day and here's hoping you get a nice big turn out.

I'm thinking about heading to tomorrows protest depending on finances.

bumper234 · 03-07-2013 11:16AM

Valetta wrote: »

Children will be childish, I suppose.

OK Ms mature,

Please explain how you would organize a protest that will get the attention of government, financial regulators, world press. Explain to us how we keep this on the front pages or would you just prefer we all forgot about the 65 BILLION that was given to the banks. Would you prefer it was just swept under the rug and not talked about?

Never mind i see from previous posts of yours in this and other threads that you are staunchly pro government and in your eyes they do no wrong. Shills gonna shill i suppose.

AnOrdinaryJoe · 03-07-2013 11:17AM

Valetta wrote: »

Children will be childish, I suppose.

....... and banksters will be banksters, I suppose.

Tell me Valetta...... what would you do...... pray tell us ?

Valetta · 03-07-2013 11:29AM

bumper234 wrote: »

OK Ms mature,

Please explain how you would organize a protest that will get the attention of government, financial regulators, world press. Explain to us how we keep this on the front pages or would you just prefer we all forgot about the 65 BILLION that was given to the banks. Would you prefer it was just swept under the rug and not talked about?

Never mind i see from previous posts of yours in this and other threads that you are staunchly pro government and in your eyes they do no wrong. Shills gonna shill i suppose.

Wrong on so many levels.

The Anglo Irish Tapes

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