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  • #662
    Ruck Inspector
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    some academy guys in here, plus lots of Barry Daly tries



  • #663
    Hagz
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    I'm disappointed Daly didn't get an Academy spot. Hopefully he plays impresses in the AIL and get a spot off that.


  • #664
    Ruck Inspector
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    Hagz wrote: »
    I'm disappointed Daly didn't get an Academy spot. Hopefully he plays impresses in the AIL and get a spot off that.

    Getting a bit old for an academy spot at this stage, turns 21 this year if he hasnt already.

    If I was Leinster I'd have him in this preseason and have a long look at him to see of he could contribute this year.


  • #665
    irishbucsfan
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    That step and turn of pace from SCM was pretty epic.


  • #666
    Ruck Inspector
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    Think Tom Farrell could earn an academy spot during the jwc


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  • #667
    thomond2006
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    James Connolly (Back Row)

    Conor Kindregan (Lock)

    Rory Moloney (Back Row)

    Saba Meunargia (Tight-Head Prop)

    Sean O’Brien (Back Row/Lock)

    David Panter (Back Three)

    Rory Parata (Centre)

    Jacob Walsh (Loose-Head Prop)

    - See more at: http://www.connachtrugby.ie/2013061283340/carolan-recruits-academy-players-for-season-ahead#sthash.CK2fny2c.OOeuEPwu.dpuf


  • #668
    ormond lad
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    Ruck Inspector wrote: »
    Leinster and Munster Academies for next year:
    Loosehead Jacob Walshe (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Loosehead James Treacy(Year 3 - Leinster - 22) - could be at Hooker.
    Loosehead Ed Byrne(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
    Loosehead Peter Dooley(Year 1 - Leinster - 19)
    Loosehead Niall Horan(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
    Hooker Brian Byrne(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
    Tighthead Tadhg Furlong(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
    Tighthead Saba Meunargia (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Lock Tadhg Beirne(Year 2 - Leinster - 21)
    Lock Gavin Thornbury(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
    Lock Darren O'Shea(Year 1 - Munster - 21)
    Lock Sean McCarthy(Year 1 - Munster - 20)
    Lock John Madigan(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
    Lock Ross Molony(Year 1 - Leinster - 18)
    Lock Conor Kindregan (Year 1- Connacht - 22)
    Backrow Shane Buckley(Year 3 - Munster - 21)
    Backrow Conor Gilsenan(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
    Backrow Jack Conan(Year 2 - Leinster - 21)
    Backrow Josh Van Der Flier(Year 2 - Leinster - 20)
    Backrow Ryan Murphy(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
    Backrow Dan Leavy(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
    Backrow James Connolly (Year 1 - Connacht - 20)
    Backrow Jack O'Donoghue(Year 2 - Munster - 19)
    Backrow Sean O Brien (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Backrow Rory Moloney (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Scrumhalf Luke McGrath(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
    Scrumhalf Brian Haugh(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
    Scrumhalf Jack Cullen(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
    Outhalf Cathal Marsh(Year 2 - Leinster - 20)
    Outhalf Johnny Holland(Year 2 - Munster - 21)
    Outhalf Steve Crosbie(Year 1 - Leinster - 20)
    Outhalf Gearoid Lyons(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
    Centre Colm O'Shea(Year 3 - Leinster - 22)
    Centre Jordan Coghlan(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
    Centre Harry McNulty(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
    Centre Tom Daly(Year 1 - Leinster - 20)
    Centre Rory Scannell(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
    Cenre Rory Parata (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Wing Andrew Boyle(Year 3 - Leinster - 22)
    Wing Sam Coughlan Murray(Year 3 - Leinster - 21)
    Wing Darren Moroney(Year 2 - Munster - 22)
    Wing Adam Byrne(Year 1 - Leinster - 19) - could also be at centre.
    Wing Greg O'Shea(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
    Wing David Panter (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Fullback Darren Sweetnam(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
    Fullback David Johnston(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
    Fullback Billy Dardis(Year 1 - Leinster - 18)
    Updated list with Connacht academy members

    Is there a list of all players in Ulster academy? I know there is slight differences between Ulster and the other provinces academies?


  • #669
    Fireball07
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    Only 2 THs in 3 provinces...not a lot considering there's 5 LHs. Although, Ed Byrne can play there can't he?

    Only 1 hooker is a bit surprising (although there is Treacy), but I suppose Munster just had 2 finish up in the academy.


    Munster, once more, have lots of locks but now we have 2 centres and 2 OHs which is good. Hopefully some of them will come through.



    Depth in the back row looks amazing, some serious potential there.


  • #670
    Childish Donald
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Updated list with Connacht academy members

    Is there a list of all players in Ulster academy? I know there is slight differences between Ulster and the other provinces academies?


    You only put in first year connacht members.

    Loosehead Finlay Bealham(Year 2 - Connacht - 22)
    Tighthead Jamie Dever(Year 2 - Connacht - 20)
    Tighthead Peter Reilly(Year 2 - Connacht - 21)
    Lock Ultan Dillane(Year 2 - Connacht - 20)
    Scrumhalf Marcus Walsh(Year 2 - Connacht - 21)
    Outhalf Jack Carty(Year 3 - Connacht - 21)
    Centre Tadhg Leader(Year 3 - Connacht - 21)
    Centre Conor Finn(Year 3 - Connacht - 21)
    Wing Steve Macauley(Year 2 - Connacht - 21)
    Fullback Shane Layden(Year 3 - Connacht - 21)
    Fullback Daragh Leader(Year 2 - Connacht - 20)


  • #671
    ormond lad
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    This should be all players of Connacht academy included. Tks Childish Donald

    Loosehead James Treacy(Year 3 - Leinster - 22) - could be at Hooker.
    Loosehead Ed Byrne(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
    Loosehead Peter Dooley(Year 1 - Leinster - 19)
    Loosehead Niall Horan(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
    Loosehead Finlay Bealham(Year 2 - Connacht - 22)
    Loosehead Jacob Walshe (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Hooker Brian Byrne(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
    Tighthead Tadhg Furlong(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
    Tighthead Jamie Dever(Year 2 - Connacht - 20)
    Tighthead Peter Reilly(Year 2 - Connacht - 21)
    Tighthead Saba Meunargia (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Lock Tadhg Beirne(Year 2 - Leinster - 21)
    Lock Gavin Thornbury(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
    Lock Darren O'Shea(Year 1 - Munster - 21)
    Lock Sean McCarthy(Year 1 - Munster - 20)
    Lock John Madigan(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
    Lock Ross Molony(Year 1 - Leinster - 18)
    Lock Ultan Dillane(Year 2 - Connacht - 20)
    Lock Conor Kindregan (Year 1- Connacht - 22)
    Backrow Shane Buckley(Year 3 - Munster - 21)
    Backrow Conor Gilsenan(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
    Backrow Jack Conan(Year 2 - Leinster - 21)
    Backrow Josh Van Der Flier(Year 2 - Leinster - 20)
    Backrow Ryan Murphy(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
    Backrow Dan Leavy(Year 2 - Leinster - 19)
    Backrow James Connolly (Year 1 - Connacht - 20)
    Backrow Sean O Brien (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Backrow Rory Moloney (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Backrow Jack O'Donoghue(Year 2 - Munster - 19)
    Scrumhalf Luke McGrath(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
    Scrumhalf Brian Haugh(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
    Scrumhalf Jack Cullen(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
    Scrumhalf Marcus Walsh(Year 2 - Connacht - 21)
    Outhalf Cathal Marsh(Year 2 - Leinster - 20)
    Outhalf Johnny Holland(Year 2 - Munster - 21)
    Outhalf Steve Crosbie(Year 1 - Leinster - 20)
    Outhalf Gearoid Lyons(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
    Outhalf Jack Carty(Year 3 - Connacht - 21)
    Centre Colm O'Shea(Year 3 - Leinster - 22)
    Centre Jordan Coghlan(Year 3 - Leinster - 20)
    Centre Harry McNulty(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
    Centre Tom Daly(Year 1 - Leinster - 20)
    Centre Rory Parata (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Centre Rory Scannell(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
    Centre Tadhg Leader(Year 3 - Connacht - 21)
    Centre Conor Finn(Year 3 - Connacht - 21)
    Wing Andrew Boyle(Year 3 - Leinster - 22)
    Wing Sam Coughlan Murray(Year 3 - Leinster - 21)
    Wing Darren Moroney(Year 2 - Munster - 22)
    Wing Adam Byrne(Year 1 - Leinster - 19) - could also be at centre.
    Wing Greg O'Shea(Year 1 - Munster - 18)
    Wing Steve Macauley(Year 2 - Connacht - 21)
    Wing Dave Panter (Year 1 - Connacht - 19)
    Fullback Darren Sweetnam(Year 2 - Munster - 20)
    Fullback David Johnston(Year 1 - Munster - 19)
    Fullback Billy Dardis(Year 1 - Leinster - 18)
    Fullback Daragh Leader(Year 2 - Connacht - 20)
    Fullback Shane Layden(Year 3 - Connacht - 21)


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  • #672
    FrannoFan
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    Ruck Inspector wrote: »
    Think Tom Farrell could earn an academy spot during the jwc

    might be right, very good today against NZ and against Oz last week. impressive considering the time he was out injured.


  • #673
    Munster13
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    I hope Tom Farrell joins the Munster academy, hes looked good when ive seen him play in the JWC, as well as Darren Sweetnam, Rory Scannell and Jack O'Donoghue, i think all 3 of them will get development contracts with Munster in the next year or 2, they have real talent, but from the 3 im looking forward to seeing Sweetnam more, he looks brilliant at wing and at fullback


  • #674
    Wexfordboy89
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    anyone know if that german kid from clongowes wood is getting an academy/sub academy spot?looked good from the bits ive seen of him on tv.sebastian fromm is his name i think?


  • #675
    Hagz
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    Wexfordboy89 wrote: »
    anyone know if that german kid from clongowes wood is getting an academy/sub academy spot?looked good from the bits ive seen of him on tv.sebastian fromm is his name i think?

    Definitely not getting an Academy spot.


  • #676
    lurtz
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    Wexfordboy89 wrote: »
    anyone know if that german kid from clongowes wood is getting an academy/sub academy spot?looked good from the bits ive seen of him on tv.sebastian fromm is his name i think?

    hes meant to be playing 20s this summer,dont know if he will cos he didnt play 19s last year


  • #677
    Morf
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    lurtz wrote: »
    hes meant to be playing 20s this summer,dont know if he will cos he didnt play 19s last year

    Surely there wouldn't be any nationality issues for him because of the free movement and labour laws in Europe. Unlike Artymiev for example.


  • #678
    lurtz
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    Morf wrote: »
    Surely there wouldn't be any nationality issues for him because of the free movement and labour laws in Europe. Unlike Artymiev for example.

    no it was more that he didnt want to spend his 3 months holidays still in Ireland


  • #679
    Morf
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    lurtz wrote: »
    no it was more that he didnt want to spend his 3 months holidays still in Ireland

    I thought Artymiev couldn't qualify because schooling didn't count towards his residency, no?


  • #680
    Hagz
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    Morf wrote: »
    I thought Artymiev couldn't qualify because schooling didn't count towards his residency, no?

    I think he was actually call back to Russia for mandatory military service.


  • #681
    lurtz
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    Morf wrote: »
    I thought Artymiev couldn't qualify because schooling didn't count towards his residency, no?

    I meant Fromm


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  • #682
    Morf
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    lurtz wrote: »
    I meant Fromm

    Fair enough.


  • #683
    JagerScout
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    Interestingly enough Munster have put up some of the profiles for their new recruits.

    John Madigan listed at 6'6.5 and 117kg, turns 19 in september.
    Darren O'Shea listed at almost 6'9, turns 21 in december.

    Interested to watch their progress, certainly big enough.


  • #684
    ormond lad
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    JagerScout wrote: »
    Interestingly enough Munster have put up some of the profiles for their new recruits.

    John Madigan listed at 6'6.5 and 117kg, turns 19 in september.
    Darren O'Shea listed at almost 6'9, turns 21 in december.

    Interested to watch their progress, certainly big enough.
    Academy profiles up now that academy are back for pre season training
    Some very big players in 2nd row with Madigan a real class act and best of the 3 2nd rows who joined this year IMO.

    Will be interesting where the lads straight from school and the likes of Cullen go for their club rugby. G O Shea will nearly def go back to Shannon. Don't know which club Lyons will join but I think Cullen will be with Munsters next season.


  • #685
    Aiden7
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    JagerScout wrote: »
    Interestingly enough Munster have put up some of the profiles for their new recruits.

    John Madigan listed at 6'6.5 and 117kg, turns 19 in september.
    Darren O'Shea listed at almost 6'9, turns 21 in december.

    Interested to watch their progress, certainly big enough.


    John Madigan sounds about the same size as Iain Henderson but younger, hopefully he plays like Henderson too.

    Darren O'Shea is a monster!Bigger than Thornbury at Leinster, bigger than that huge English lock at the JWC this year Tom Price who is almost 2 stone lighter than O'Shea.
    Sean McCarthy looked ok at the JWC, big unit seems to be more a workhorse type lock.

    I guess Munster must not have too much faith in the likes of Nagle and Foley, if they are bringing 3 locks into the academy this year, good to see that Madigan, O'Shea and McCarthy are already very physically developed.


  • #686
    ormond lad
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    Aiden7 wrote: »
    John Madigan sounds about the same size as Iain Henderson but younger, hopefully he plays like Henderson too.

    Darren O'Shea is a monster!Bigger than Thornbury at Leinster, bigger than that huge English lock at the JWC this year Tom Price who is almost 2 stone lighter than O'Shea.
    Sean McCarthy looked ok at the JWC, big unit seems to be more a workhorse type lock.

    I guess Munster must not have too much faith in the likes of Nagle and Foley, if they are bringing 3 locks into the academy this year, good to see that Madigan, O'Shea and McCarthy are already very physically developed.
    Don't think bringing in 3 2nd rows means bad news for Nagle/Foley or a lack of faith in either. POC/DOC/DR will not be around for 5+ years and there is not many other 2nd rows contracted apart from Nagle/Foley so we signing 3 2nd rows to academy is required.


  • #687
    JagerScout
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    they are all obviously talented, if they reach the standard required no province has the luxury at second row to ignore them.

    Was concerned about O'Shea as he would be a tad old for joining the academy but he is more than likely just a slow developer especially in that big frame


  • #688
    ormond lad
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    JagerScout wrote: »
    they are all obviously talented, if they reach the standard required no province has the luxury at second row to ignore them.

    Was concerned about O'Shea as he would be a tad old for joining the academy but he is more than likely just a slow developer especially in that big frame
    How is O Shea too Old? He's not even 21 yet. 3 years in academy and he'll be 23 by end of third academy season.
    Don't think he's slow developer at all. Played all age groups with Munster and played at irish 19s level and done well at AIL level with Dolphin past few seasons


  • #689
    JagerScout
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    not too old, also thought he was already 21.

    just he is a year above under 20 level and thats usually pretty late to get an academy offer.

    at nearly 6'9 he has a lot of potential, still a bit light too for his height.


  • #690
    Aiden7
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    ormond lad wrote: »
    Don't think bringing in 3 2nd rows means bad news for Nagle/Foley or a lack of faith in either. POC/DOC/DR will not be around for 5+ years and there is not many other 2nd rows contracted apart from Nagle/Foley so we signing 3 2nd rows to academy is required.

    I forgot DR is almost 30, what is happening with DOC2 is he going to be a 2nd row long term or stay as a backrow?


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  • #691
    CGD
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    Could be a Leinster centre on his way to Munster Academy. Leinster asleep at the wheel if true. Tom Farrell not offered Leinster Academy.Everyone except Leinster seem to be clamaring to get him including Ospreys and a couple of English Clubs


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