Travellers have just moved in up the road

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I remember a time when some of our nomadic brethren sneaked into and parked up their caravans in a popular local wooded area that was a very popular walking area. They made sh*t of it. It had to be specially cleaned when they finally got rid of them and the public wouldn't go near the place for ages.

Throwing your excrement, dirty nappies and general refuse all around an area is a disgrace. Clothes went missing from washing lines, property was stolen left right and centre and there were a lot of missing animals too as I recall. If loathing people who behave in a scummy and sub-human manner makes me a bigot then so be it.

A knac*er is a knac*er and I mean that word in the sense of it being someone who is fit for nothing and no use to society. There are many valid reasons why people don't like or trust them and there aren't many settled people who'd want them in their immediate vicinity.

But that's their culture, and thus sacrosanct

March right into the middle of they're camp and find the biggest one of them and knock him out,then ride his woman.You'll gain so much respect that you'll be instantly given the title "king of the travellers". Problem solved!

Slurry sprayer needed.

checkyabadself wrote: »

You are literally tarring a group of people with the same brush? How exactly are you to not be taken as a bigot? The term tinker is a derogatory bigoted term and your entire post stinks of prejudice.

I really hope that pun was intended, but you´re way to high up on that horse for puns

I have come across a number if travellers over the years and I think they're all a bunch of thugs. They don't think normal everyday rules apply to them. Yes I'm sure there are nice and respectful travellers out there but I have yet to meet one. As far as them setting up close to your house I would say lock your doors, get a guard dog for when you are not there and prepare to clean up all of the rubbish and crap they leave behind.

We had a similar problem a few years ago,around 8 caravans,dogs,horses,a few goats all moved in up the road from us. They were the bad type who were always wondering into our yard looking for drums of water or my personal favourite was "howya boss,have ya seen a brown goat?".
We all got sick of them so the neighbours spread slurry in the field beside where they were parked,sending a fair bit of it over the hedge,they were all gone within 2 hours.

Quite a lot of ignorant posters in this thread. Lived in the rathnew/wicklow town area for approximately 20 years of my life, anybody that lives in this location will be able to verify that we've had our fair share of experiences with travellers. I'm an open-minded guy and give everyone a chance but it is certainly not the minority giving the majority a bad name here, all but one group of travellers had a largely negative impact on the locality, one family were a joy to have and contributed greatly to the local GAA club and helped with the tidy towns thing.

The other groups (10 + at this stage) brought a wave of crime, dirt and a fear that is hard to convey in words. There was a particularly nasty group over from England about 3/4 years ago that committed horrendous crimes and were eventually dealt with by the ERU, anyone from the area will be ale to verify this. Landlords around the area have been hit with bills of thousands and thousands in court costs and clean up bills and it's not fair. Having to resort to pay someone 3k in cash to move of the property you worked hard to buy and then having to deal with the state its left in is ridiculous. IMO, residing like this on someone elses property should warrant a jail sentence and I say this from seeing the mental states of some landlords whos properties have been destroyed whilst pleading with the council and gardai to help them.

Anyone who defends travellers moving into land like this should be forced to sell their current home and move into a house near by the illegal haulting site.

It wont be long before they have the same opinion as the rest of the country.

I have had zero good experiences with the travelling community.

old hippy wrote: »

Treat people like muck, marginalise them - well, it's hardly surprising some of them will act up, isn't it? A vicious circle, sadly.

Every single family bar one. At this stage, I've met only 4 travellers out of well over 60, through work and through personal life, and those 4 were the only ones that worked. The rest are criminals, illegally parking at the Louisa Bridge carpark, on the side of the road near the Leixlip to Celbridge interchange, and leaving the CC to spend thousands fixing up the sites that they leave behind.

It seems that they are allowed to trespass and litter with little fear of persecution, so IMO, their caravans should be crushed if illegally camping, and they should be either sent back to where they have listed as their "home address", or put into whatever place the council puts them (anywhere in the country) I'm sick of hearing of half empty halting sites, as X is in a feud with Y, so decide to illegally camp rather than settle their differences???

old hippy wrote: »

I belive that if you treat people like ****, constantly put them down, shun them, marginalise them, advocate all sorts of violence and mayhem to them - it's hardly surprising that some will behave badly.

I'm not making excuses, as I've said before - I've had good and bad experiences with the Travelling Community.

That can't be the entire reason though.

It can't be normal to have to avoid certain bars as the "travellers bar" for fear of getting the **** kicked out of you.
If i'm walking down the street and i pass by a group of travellers, is it normal to have them roar abuse in your face for fun and jollies?
I've yet to see a single "temporary halting site" aka trespass, left in a decent state when they leave. It's always a mountain of trash, rubble heaps, gutted dishwashers.
And then there's the inevitable wave of crime that follows them around, and i refuse to believe that people other than travellers are following them around exploiting this belief.
Then there's the horseandcart road racing, where they race down dual carriageways (down the wrong side of the road, search youtube).

I have yet to meet one who acted with any degree of normality and respect for the people, property, locality. Why do you think they deserve respect?

The general consensus on Dale Farm around AH was that it was OK to evict 80 families who had been living there for 10+ years and sending their kids to a local school.

The general consensus seems to be it is a Bad Thing for familes to have moved onto this site and that various intimidations should be used to get them to move.

So, they should not stay in one place nor should they move.

Slow hand clap.