Coronation Street [News, Spoilers and Discussion]

cofy wrote: »

What really annoyed me about all the baby intensive care scenes was the amount of people allowed into the intensive care room. Emmerdale did the same thing. It's amazing that anyone can walk directly up to an incubator and stick their hand in to touch a critically ill premature baby, without even washing their hands and using a hand steralizer, it's no wonder the baby suffered an infection.

Spotted Rita using the hand sanitzer last night! Shes the only one Ive seen using it.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How did she get in to see the baby she isn't related

BTW where is Katy, did she try and see the baby or come to aid Izzy in her fight against Tina

Too busy now with Ryan.

I don't get the amount of hatred for Izzie. I am completely on her side. It's not Tina's place to judge if she'd be a good parent, all the stuff she was saying about Izzie and her family - she knew that when she agreed to the surrogacy.

I understand it must be tough for Tina to carry the baby and have to give it away but in my mind, it's 100% Izzy and Gary's baby.

LizT wrote: »

I don't get the amount of hatred for Izzie. I am completely on her side. It's not Tina's place to judge if she'd be a good parent, all the stuff she was saying about Izzie and her family - she knew that when she agreed to the surrogacy.

I understand it must be tough for Tina to carry the baby and have to give it away but in my mind, it's 100% Izzy and Gary's baby.

Guarantee if Izzy wasn't so irritating people would be way more on her side. She's just so hard to watch when she's crying and she just doesn't seem to have any gumption, just moans a lot. Also how it never dawned on her to make Tina keep her distance after she had the baby is a bit naive. She's just not very likeable so people can't warm to her.

But I totally agree with you- it's her baby with Gary, no two ways about it. I have sympathy for Tina in that it can't be easy to let go of a baby you carried, but that was part of the deal and she never would have had him without Izzeh and Garreh.

Meangadh wrote: »

G have sympathy for Tina in that it can't be easy to let go of a baby you carried, but that was part of the deal and she never would have had him without Izzeh and Garreh.

It's very difficult to make a deal around a human being by human beings. Tina may have done it for financial gain but there would also be a large element of altruism on the part of any surrogate and good feeling that you are helping people. However, once you've carried that baby nourishing it, giving up things for it, feeling it move and then to have to hand it over to people who have radically changed over the nine months, and not for the better, must be agonising. It's difficult enough to part with a litter of kittens or puppies that you've had in your house for a couple of months and you wouldn't hand them over to anyone that you consider wouldn't have their complete welfare at heart. Babies of any sort of are cute for a very good reason. It generally ensures their survival.

Take a look at Tina's options. There's Izzie who is disabled and who now has very little actual family support. She's gotten rid of her partner, gotten rid of her sister and is left with her father and his partner. Anna would dump Owen in a minute if she was guaranteed Fay back and would certainly dump him if he avenged his daughter which leaves Izzie with just Owen for support and he's a complete head the ball.

Then there is the option of handing him over to Gary who jumped her and would very obviously have dumped Izzie without a second thought if Tina had been anyway accommodating. His only support is his mother who would be more than willing to help him care for the baby but is a loose cannon of sorts and doesn't exactly have a great track record in child rearing.

Even if Izzie and Gary could agree to help each other out with the baby although in separate houses, there is always the prospect of each of them turning on the other - Izzie is hurting and would probably after a couple of months edge Gary out and then Gary would use her disability against her and a war would be waged over the baby. We've seen the opening shots fired and there is only a ceasefire because they were threatened.

The baby's biological parents' situation has completed changed in the months since Tina agreed to their proposition. From her point of view she knows that she is completely capable of looking after the baby on her own and has Rita and Tommy for back-up. She knows that she doesn't have any physical or mental issues also. She is willing to make sacrifices to keep him and they don't seem to be so why should she hand him over to people who can't say the same.

It's a toughie. From where I stand as someone who offered to be a surrogate mother for a family member you could really only enter this arrangement if you were carrying the baby for parents you had never met but had been vetted thoroughly and you never got to see the baby before having to give it up or for someone that you knew nearly as well as yourself so you would know how suitable they would be as parents and whether they would sacrifice anything for that gift. Also having had your own babies and enough of them not to want or be tempted to do the sleepless nights and nappies ever again would be a big help. All those options would still leave the surrogate with issues, feelings and thoughts. Definitely a minefield and perhaps in the same way that people have to accept that they will never be rich, or healthy, people have to accept that they will never have children. Just because it is possible does not mean that it should happen. Life isn't fair on lots of counts and sometimes people have to accept that.

Could this be the end of Dev "I SHOUT a LOT !" Alahan's "acting" career. Heres hoping.

He's done it. Hasn't he! :eek: But he can't have when everybody knows that he was just around there.

State of Gail's singing :eek:

I don't know what was more freakish - Gail dancing to black heart or trying to be sexy (or just plain weird) eating an olive... either way, I was grossed out. twice.

Craig knows something, he is the key to what happened the night of the fire and now that he saw Karl get sick in the alley way it has sparked another piece of the puzzle for him