Should children be banned from pubs?

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 09:46AM

Karlitto wrote: »

That's actually a very narrow minded post, that "guy sipping on a pint of guiness" is most likely a local/regular who over the years is going to pour far more money into the pub than a family who go for a "sunday dinner" once in a blue moon.

That's the thing, a pub won't refuse a child entry before 9, at least I have never found one. Adults can't get away from children, a pub should be one of the places they can, after all, what has a pub got to offer a child?

Why should I sit there and have my day ruined by some spoiled kid?

No, did you not know you have to be knocking the drinks back like shots to be on a par with those hyper consumer kids guzzling boxes of taytos and bottles of country spring? lol

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 09:51AM

ScumLord wrote: »

The family, or more than likely families are going to spend more in that day out than your man will in the entire week. I'm not saying anything about the Guinness sipping man, I'm just pointing out he's not going to keep the pub trading.

No, children are everywhere, it's as pointless complaining about their presence as it is complaining about the birds singing in the trees. You have the benefit of just waiting until nine for a quiet pint. Although, once the adults get going you won't think the children are noisy.

Your day isn't ruined your just being a humourless sour puss. :pac: The rest of us can enjoy our day without taking offense at children having fun.

Not necessarily. Couples, groups of friends etc can all get inebriated if they so wish. People with children not so much. Also, remember that "families" are not just those with kids! Wouldnt want to offend anyone

Yes children ARE everywhere...all the more reason to have them banned from pubs - it's the only sanctuary us sour pussed cranks have left

keithclancy · 14-06-2013 10:30AM

I'm really starting to dislike Ireland.

All these crazy notions of controlling things.

ThreeBlindMice · 14-06-2013 10:43AM

Screaming babies should be removed from pubs.

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 11:08AM

keithclancy wrote: »

I'm really starting to dislike Ireland.

All these crazy notions of controlling things.

You're only noticing now??

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 11:15AM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

You're only noticing now??

I am Irish, and I hate Ireland for far more reasons than just notions of controlling things

Well, hate is a strong word, but I dislike.

du Maurier · 14-06-2013 11:17AM

If they do have to be in there they should be made drink alcohol. That could be funny.

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 11:20AM

du Maurier wrote: »

If they do have to be in there they should be made drink alcohol. That could be funny.

At least it would knock them out and we would all have some piece and quiet.

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 11:21AM

Karlitto wrote: »

I am Irish, and I hate Ireland for far more reasons than just notions of controlling things

Well, hate is a strong word, but I dislike.

I'm kind of the same. I mean, it's grand but... I dont know. There's something decidedly "off" about Ireland. Kind of like the cooked meat in the fridge that's a bit hardened at the edges but smells sort of ok and might not kill you but makes you feel a bit queasy...

StephenHendry · 14-06-2013 11:22AM

i don't think it would be practical or realitistic to ban children from pubs altogether, it can be really annoying having kids running around during the day or at night !! this situation is really bad tbh on paddy's day, communion and confirmations so i do make an effort to avoid the pubs that are likely to hit the most

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 11:22AM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

I'm kind of the same. I mean, it's grand but... I dont know. There's something decidedly "off" about Ireland. Kind of like the cooked meat in the fridge that's a bit hardened at the edges but smells sort of ok and might not kill you but makes you feel a bit queasy...

Hah! Well, that is one analogy. But yea, I think if people DID more in terms of the running of the country instead of bitching, we would be ok. Hence why I am planning to go to the legalize cannabis march tomorrow

frank reynolds · 14-06-2013 11:22AM

Karlitto wrote: »

Firstly, paragraph 3, what the hell are you talking about? I am not saying kids should be in a playground, I am saying they should not be in a pub. I listed some examples of where you could bring kids as a responsible parent. Are you suggesting that playgrounds are full of "teenagers" who beat each other up whilst taking drugs, smoking and drinking? Lets bring this back a bit towards reality. In pubs, you have people who drink, smoke (both cigarettes and other things) and quite often during lets say, a christening, communion, well, any of the big events where you would expect to find kids, you are most likely going to have at least one scumbag who is part of the group who will go into the jax and snort a line.

And sorry to shoot you down, a pub does mean PUBLIC house, but it is not a PUBLIC place, Public house is the name given to these establishments. But it is a private premises, it is simple as that.

Furthermore, if it was an openly public place where someone could not refuse entry, as per the intoxicating liquor act, you would not be able to consume alcohol since it is illegal to be drunk in public.

you didnt shoot me down. your opinion is changing slightly every post you make. you keep backtracking on everthing you have said already.

what sort of people do you go to the pub with? people doing coke at christenings? get a grip - of course that happens, but its going to be happening anyway if someone is a coke addict. as for people smoking "other things" in the pub - that could be way less than the exposure they could be getting to a mother or father or other family member smoking all around them at home.

you just dont get it do you?

let me simplify it for you, seeing as you can't seem to grasp what's going on here:

you have shown to all, you're anti-children, you seem to have portrayed yourself as a bit of a snob, you want things to be your way or the highway and if i saw you in the pub, i'd find the nearest bunch of kids and i'd tell them to go and play and make noise around your table.

do you know what's simple about it all - your posts.

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 11:26AM

StephenHendry wrote: »

i don't think it would be practical or realitistic to ban children from pubs altogether, it can be really annoying having kids running around during the day or at night !! this situation is really bad tbh on paddy's day, communion and confirmations so i do make an effort to avoid the pubs that are likely to hit the most

Yea I know what ya mean, hence why I think pubs should be exclusively adult only. Kids can go pretty much anywhere adults can, so technically if you want to go out somewhere, we should have a "sanctuary".

Kind of the same as dogs, people can go anywhere, dogs are becoming more and more limited in where they can go for a walk and be let off the lead and have a stretch of the legs / get exercise / socialize. In my local park, it is known as a "dog walkers park" for the simple reason that dog walkers have been walking for years there in hail, rain or snow. Suddenly the Kildare CoCo have put down footpaths, suddenly you have every self-righteous ****er thinking they can come down and give out about dogs being off the lead. Same principle, give somewhere for adults to go and be undisturbed by other peoples responsibilities.

frank reynolds · 14-06-2013 11:31AM

Karlitto wrote: »

Yea I know what ya mean, hence why I think pubs should be exclusively adult only. Kids can go pretty much anywhere adults can, so technically if you want to go out somewhere, we should have a "sanctuary".

Kind of the same as dogs, people can go anywhere, dogs are becoming more and more limited in where they can go for a walk and be let off the lead and have a stretch of the legs / get exercise / socialize. In my local park, it is known as a "dog walkers park" for the simple reason that dog walkers have been walking for years there in hail, rain or snow. Suddenly the Kildare CoCo have put down footpaths, suddenly you have every self-righteous ****er thinking they can come down and give out about dogs being off the lead. Same principle, give somewhere for adults to go and be undisturbed by other peoples responsibilities.

do you prefer dogs to children?

getz · 14-06-2013 11:32AM

StephenHendry wrote: »

i don't think it would be practical or realitistic to ban children from pubs altogether, it can be really annoying having kids running around during the day or at night !! this situation is really bad tbh on paddy's day, communion and confirmations so i do make an effort to avoid the pubs that are likely to hit the most

on my travels around Ireland, I have noticed that in the village pub is also used as the community centre,normally full of kids having club meeting dancing ect, as a tourist the one I go to often when on holiday is the park view house in shillelagh,brilliant

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 11:33AM

what sort of people do you go to the pub with? people doing coke at christenings? get a grip - of course that happens,

Erm, so, if it happens, then why should I get a grip? Surely you have just agreed that I am right, no?

but its going to be happening anyway if someone is a coke addict.

Wake up dude.... you do not need to be an addict to take coke, weed or other things, lets take drink, are you saying that if someone goes out for a night and has a few drinks they are an addict?.....

as for people smoking "other things" in the pub - that could be way less than the exposure they could be getting to a mother or father or other family member smoking all around them at home.

That might be true, like many people, I do not smoke in my home, I go outside. But in either case, do you think it is an appropriate environment for a child to be in?

you just dont get it do you?

let me simplify it for you, seeing as you can't seem to grasp what's going on here:

you have shown to all, you're anti-children, you seem to have portrayed yourself as a bit of a snob, you want things to be your way or the highway and if i saw you in the pub, i'd find the nearest bunch of kids and i'd tell them to go and play and make noise around your table.

What I don't get are the points you are trying to make, and I am not being funny here.

I am not anti-children at all, if you have taken the time to actually read my posts you will see that I think kids should be banned form PUBS.... how exactly is that being "anti-children"? I love kids, they are amazing for the most part, all I am saying is, don't bring kids to a pubs, it is annoying for the customers and is not a suitable environment to be. And if kids are doing that, I would happily request their parents control their children.

do you know what's simple about it all - your posts.

If it is so simple, I find it quite funny that you cannot seem to understand it. Which, says a lot about you.

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 11:33AM

frank reynolds wrote: »

do you prefer dogs to children?

Yes.

laoch na mona · 14-06-2013 11:37AM

no what possible reason would there be to ban children from pubs

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 11:43AM

frank reynolds wrote: »

you didnt shoot me down. your opinion is changing slightly every post you make. you keep backtracking on everthing you have said already.

what sort of people do you go to the pub with? people doing coke at christenings? get a grip - of course that happens, but its going to be happening anyway if someone is a coke addict. as for people smoking "other things" in the pub - that could be way less than the exposure they could be getting to a mother or father or other family member smoking all around them at home.

you just dont get it do you?

let me simplify it for you, seeing as you can't seem to grasp what's going on here:

you have shown to all, you're anti-children, you seem to have portrayed yourself as a bit of a snob, you want things to be your way or the highway and if i saw you in the pub, i'd find the nearest bunch of kids and i'd tell them to go and play and make noise around your table.

do you know what's simple about it all - your posts.

You're clearly a child yourself, perhaps you too should be barred.

Wanting to enjoy a peaceful few drinks in one of the few sacred places left that is not mobbed by kids does not make you anti-child. Over react much?

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 11:45AM

Karlitto wrote: »

At least it would knock them out and we would all have some piece and quiet.

lol, plenty of parents drug their kids with calpol anyway, drink would be a cheaper option

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 11:49AM

Karlitto wrote: »

Yea I know what ya mean, hence why I think pubs should be exclusively adult only. Kids can go pretty much anywhere adults can, so technically if you want to go out somewhere, we should have a "sanctuary".

Kind of the same as dogs, people can go anywhere, dogs are becoming more and more limited in where they can go for a walk and be let off the lead and have a stretch of the legs / get exercise / socialize. In my local park, it is known as a "dog walkers park" for the simple reason that dog walkers have been walking for years there in hail, rain or snow. Suddenly the Kildare CoCo have put down footpaths, suddenly you have every self-righteous ****er thinking they can come down and give out about dogs being off the lead. Same principle, give somewhere for adults to go and be undisturbed by other peoples responsibilities.

oh yeah that drives me fuuuuckin spare! Us dedicated dog owners brave all the harsh elements during the winter to exercise and socialise our dogs and we have the place to ourselves while all the little yaks are in playing on the xbox, and gradually falling victim to childhood obesity then as soon as the sun comes out the place is mobbed wiith self righteous parents demanding that the 4kg monster is put back on its lead lest it eat a small child haha

In our park there's constantly broiken toys and sweet papers etc left behind as rubbish and what do the council do?? Put up a sign saying, "what sort of dog owner are you?" - I'm like...er one that cleans up after my dog?? What sort of parent are YOU?

frank reynolds · 14-06-2013 11:50AM

Karlitto wrote: »

Erm, so, if it happens, then why should I get a grip? Surely you have just agreed that I am right, no?

Wake up dude.... you do not need to be an addict to take coke, weed or other things, lets take drink, are you saying that if someone goes out for a night and has a few drinks they are an addict?.....

That might be true, like many people, I do not smoke in my home, I go outside. But in either case, do you think it is an appropriate environment for a child to be in?

What I don't get are the points you are trying to make, and I am not being funny here.

I am not anti-children at all, if you have taken the time to actually read my posts you will see that I think kids should be banned form PUBS.... how exactly is that being "anti-children"? I love kids, they are amazing for the most part, all I am saying is, don't bring kids to a pubs, it is annoying for the customers and is not a suitable environment to be. And if kids are doing that, I would happily request their parents control their children.

If it is so simple, I find it quite funny that you cannot seem to understand it. Which, says a lot about you.

i think the pub is a grand place for children with their parents. As another poster said, there are activities held there, some are like community centres.

YOU should be banned from the pub.

you take pride in the fact that you bring your horrible hairy stinking dribbling mutt into the pub that could sh!t everywhere or p!ss everywhere.
if anything should be banned, it's people who treat their dogs like they are human children.

have you ever stopped to think that maybe you are the one getting more attention from the kids because you bring your dog to the pub? kids like animals pal, so maybe re-think that one and you might get to enjoy your drink a bit more.

i cant argue with you anymore. your horrible opinions baffle me. you seem to be a product of greedy selfish celtic tiger ireland, and you wont of course agree with ANYTHING anyone has said even if it makes sense to you on here, but i hope it all hits you one day and you realise how sour you are being.

Grandeeod · 14-06-2013 11:54AM

They should be allowed in pubs that serve food until 7pm at the latest. They should not be permitted in bars that do not serve food. The argument that mammy and daddy should be entitled to go for a drink with their children in toe is IMO Bollox. In Ireland the latest I will stay in a pub with my daughter (and this always includes a meal) is 7pm. In Spain where I live, it's a little later, because we are generally sitting outdoors and the drinking culture is vastly different.

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 11:57AM

laoch na mona wrote: »

no what possible reason would there be to ban children from pubs

Try reading the thread.

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 11:57AM

frank reynolds wrote: »

i think the pub is a grand place for children with their parents. As another poster said, there are activities held there, some are like community centres.

YOU should be banned from the pub.

you take pride in the fact that you bring your horrible hairy stinking dribbling mutt into the pub that could sh!t everywhere or p!ss everywhere.
if anything should be banned, it's people who treat their dogs like they are human children.

have you ever stopped to think that maybe you are the one getting more attention from the kids because you bring your dog to the pub? kids like animals pal, so maybe re-think that one and you might get to enjoy your drink a bit more.

i cant argue with you anymore. your horrible opinions baffle me. you seem to be a product of greedy selfish celtic tiger ireland, and you wont of course agree with ANYTHING anyone has said even if it makes sense to you on here, but i hope it all hits you one day and you realise how sour you are being.

Pal?

Yeah, ban people for having opinions...buddy

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 12:00PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

oh yeah that drives me fuuuuckin spare! Us dedicated dog owners brave all the harsh elements during the winter to exercise and socialise our dogs and we have the place to ourselves while all the little yaks are in playing on the xbox, and gradually falling victim to childhood obesity then as soon as the sun comes out the place is mobbed wiith self righteous parents demanding that the 4kg monster is put back on its lead lest it eat a small child haha

In our park there's constantly broiken toys and sweet papers etc left behind as rubbish and what do the council do?? Put up a sign saying, "what sort of dog owner are you?" - I'm like...er one that cleans up after my dog?? What sort of parent are YOU?

To be honest, in my park, it is far worse from the bigger kids, aka the scumbags drinking in the park, 99% of them won't take their crap with them, so on Saturday and Sunday mornings I bring a bag with me on my walk and pick up their cans, but unfortunately there is not much I can do about the smouldering remains of their fires and broken bottles.

laoch na mona · 14-06-2013 12:00PM

Karlitto wrote: »

Try reading the thread.

i did

Dyr · 14-06-2013 12:02PM

I've had it with these motherf**king kids in this motherf**king pub

OldNotWIse · 14-06-2013 12:09PM

Karlitto wrote: »

To be honest, in my park, it is far worse from the bigger kids, aka the scumbags drinking in the park, 99% of them won't take their crap with them, so on Saturday and Sunday mornings I bring a bag with me on my walk and pick up their cans, but unfortunately there is not much I can do about the smouldering remains of their fires and broken bottles.

Nasty. I find broken glass an absolute scourge with my little one tbh. Are these people going to pay the vet bill if she wals on it? And yet all we see are signs accusing us of being bad owners.

Karlitto · 14-06-2013 12:10PM

frank reynolds wrote: »

i think the pub is a grand place for children with their parents. As another poster said, there are activities held there, some are like community centres.

In that case, why don't they go to a F***ing community centre? A pub is a pub, a community centre is a community centre.....

frank reynolds wrote: »

YOU should be banned from the pub.

Because I want to go to a pub to relax, enjoy myself? You do know a lot of parents would get a baby sitter and go to the pub for some "alone time"? So why the hell would they go from a house with kids to a pub with kids?

frank reynolds wrote: »

you take pride in the fact that you bring your horrible hairy stinking dribbling mutt into the pub that could sh!t everywhere or p!ss everywhere.

As I said earlier, my dog is clean, does not drool, and for the record, he is house trained, and has never ever shat or pissed in any house since we have had him. I cannot say the same for a lot of kids, chocolate all over their mouth and hands, snotty faces, screaming, running, throwing things. All it takes is for a kid to run by someone's chair and put their hands on a coat, to stain it with chocolate.

frank reynolds wrote: »

if anything should be banned, it's people who treat their dogs like they are human children.

Seriously, are you ****ing retarded? You are saying that people who treat their dogs like human children should be banned from pubs? Please, do explain why.

On that note, dogs can be treated well, and quite frankly, anyone who treats their dog like a child is not a responsible dog owner, you can still give a dog lots of love, but you still need to remember, there is a different mentality to owning a dog and parenting a child.

frank reynolds wrote: »

have you ever stopped to think that maybe you are the one getting more attention from the kids because you bring your dog to the pub? kids like animals pal, so maybe re-think that one and you might get to enjoy your drink a bit more.

If you would read my bloody post and stop hassling me because I own a dog, that would be great. I do not bring my dog to every pub, but it seems you are too thick to realize that. I said I bring my dog to two pubs that I regularly go to. However, the hyper kids problem is an issue in all pubs.

frank reynolds wrote: »

i cant argue with you anymore. your horrible opinions baffle me. you seem to be a product of greedy selfish celtic tiger ireland, and you wont of course agree with ANYTHING anyone has said even if it makes sense to you on here, but i hope it all hits you one day and you realise how sour you are being.

I have agreed with people, but when a pig ignorant kunt like you comes up with pointless arguments when clearly not reading what I have written, then yeah, I get pissed. And when someone has such a dull, closed minded view of dogs, well that pisses me off. You come across as one of these alcoholic parents who brings their kids to a pub and treat it like a crèche leaving your kids to be taken care of by the other intoxicated people in the pub.

Should children be banned from pubs?

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