Karlitto wrote: » That's actually a very narrow minded post, that "guy sipping on a pint of guiness" is most likely a local/regular who over the years is going to pour far more money into the pub than a family who go for a "sunday dinner" once in a blue moon. That's the thing, a pub won't refuse a child entry before 9, at least I have never found one. Adults can't get away from children, a pub should be one of the places they can, after all, what has a pub got to offer a child? Why should I sit there and have my day ruined by some spoiled kid?
ScumLord wrote: » The family, or more than likely families are going to spend more in that day out than your man will in the entire week. I'm not saying anything about the Guinness sipping man, I'm just pointing out he's not going to keep the pub trading. No, children are everywhere, it's as pointless complaining about their presence as it is complaining about the birds singing in the trees. You have the benefit of just waiting until nine for a quiet pint. Although, once the adults get going you won't think the children are noisy. Your day isn't ruined your just being a humourless sour puss. :pac: The rest of us can enjoy our day without taking offense at children having fun.
keithclancy wrote: » I'm really starting to dislike Ireland. All these crazy notions of controlling things.
OldNotWIse wrote: » You're only noticing now??
du Maurier wrote: » If they do have to be in there they should be made drink alcohol. That could be funny.
Karlitto wrote: » I am Irish, and I hate Ireland for far more reasons than just notions of controlling things Well, hate is a strong word, but I dislike.
OldNotWIse wrote: » I'm kind of the same. I mean, it's grand but... I dont know. There's something decidedly "off" about Ireland. Kind of like the cooked meat in the fridge that's a bit hardened at the edges but smells sort of ok and might not kill you but makes you feel a bit queasy...
Karlitto wrote: » Firstly, paragraph 3, what the hell are you talking about? I am not saying kids should be in a playground, I am saying they should not be in a pub. I listed some examples of where you could bring kids as a responsible parent. Are you suggesting that playgrounds are full of "teenagers" who beat each other up whilst taking drugs, smoking and drinking? Lets bring this back a bit towards reality. In pubs, you have people who drink, smoke (both cigarettes and other things) and quite often during lets say, a christening, communion, well, any of the big events where you would expect to find kids, you are most likely going to have at least one scumbag who is part of the group who will go into the jax and snort a line. And sorry to shoot you down, a pub does mean PUBLIC house, but it is not a PUBLIC place, Public house is the name given to these establishments. But it is a private premises, it is simple as that. Furthermore, if it was an openly public place where someone could not refuse entry, as per the intoxicating liquor act, you would not be able to consume alcohol since it is illegal to be drunk in public.
StephenHendry wrote: » i don't think it would be practical or realitistic to ban children from pubs altogether, it can be really annoying having kids running around during the day or at night !! this situation is really bad tbh on paddy's day, communion and confirmations so i do make an effort to avoid the pubs that are likely to hit the most
Karlitto wrote: » Yea I know what ya mean, hence why I think pubs should be exclusively adult only. Kids can go pretty much anywhere adults can, so technically if you want to go out somewhere, we should have a "sanctuary". Kind of the same as dogs, people can go anywhere, dogs are becoming more and more limited in where they can go for a walk and be let off the lead and have a stretch of the legs / get exercise / socialize. In my local park, it is known as a "dog walkers park" for the simple reason that dog walkers have been walking for years there in hail, rain or snow. Suddenly the Kildare CoCo have put down footpaths, suddenly you have every self-righteous ****er thinking they can come down and give out about dogs being off the lead. Same principle, give somewhere for adults to go and be undisturbed by other peoples responsibilities.
what sort of people do you go to the pub with? people doing coke at christenings? get a grip - of course that happens,
but its going to be happening anyway if someone is a coke addict.
as for people smoking "other things" in the pub - that could be way less than the exposure they could be getting to a mother or father or other family member smoking all around them at home.
you just dont get it do you? let me simplify it for you, seeing as you can't seem to grasp what's going on here: you have shown to all, you're anti-children, you seem to have portrayed yourself as a bit of a snob, you want things to be your way or the highway and if i saw you in the pub, i'd find the nearest bunch of kids and i'd tell them to go and play and make noise around your table.
do you know what's simple about it all - your posts.
frank reynolds wrote: » do you prefer dogs to children?
frank reynolds wrote: » you didnt shoot me down. your opinion is changing slightly every post you make. you keep backtracking on everthing you have said already. what sort of people do you go to the pub with? people doing coke at christenings? get a grip - of course that happens, but its going to be happening anyway if someone is a coke addict. as for people smoking "other things" in the pub - that could be way less than the exposure they could be getting to a mother or father or other family member smoking all around them at home. you just dont get it do you? let me simplify it for you, seeing as you can't seem to grasp what's going on here: you have shown to all, you're anti-children, you seem to have portrayed yourself as a bit of a snob, you want things to be your way or the highway and if i saw you in the pub, i'd find the nearest bunch of kids and i'd tell them to go and play and make noise around your table. do you know what's simple about it all - your posts.
Karlitto wrote: » At least it would knock them out and we would all have some piece and quiet.
Karlitto wrote: » Erm, so, if it happens, then why should I get a grip? Surely you have just agreed that I am right, no? Wake up dude.... you do not need to be an addict to take coke, weed or other things, lets take drink, are you saying that if someone goes out for a night and has a few drinks they are an addict?..... That might be true, like many people, I do not smoke in my home, I go outside. But in either case, do you think it is an appropriate environment for a child to be in? What I don't get are the points you are trying to make, and I am not being funny here. I am not anti-children at all, if you have taken the time to actually read my posts you will see that I think kids should be banned form PUBS.... how exactly is that being "anti-children"? I love kids, they are amazing for the most part, all I am saying is, don't bring kids to a pubs, it is annoying for the customers and is not a suitable environment to be. And if kids are doing that, I would happily request their parents control their children. If it is so simple, I find it quite funny that you cannot seem to understand it. Which, says a lot about you.
laoch na mona wrote: » no what possible reason would there be to ban children from pubs
frank reynolds wrote: » i think the pub is a grand place for children with their parents. As another poster said, there are activities held there, some are like community centres. YOU should be banned from the pub. you take pride in the fact that you bring your horrible hairy stinking dribbling mutt into the pub that could sh!t everywhere or p!ss everywhere. if anything should be banned, it's people who treat their dogs like they are human children. have you ever stopped to think that maybe you are the one getting more attention from the kids because you bring your dog to the pub? kids like animals pal, so maybe re-think that one and you might get to enjoy your drink a bit more. i cant argue with you anymore. your horrible opinions baffle me. you seem to be a product of greedy selfish celtic tiger ireland, and you wont of course agree with ANYTHING anyone has said even if it makes sense to you on here, but i hope it all hits you one day and you realise how sour you are being.
OldNotWIse wrote: » oh yeah that drives me fuuuuckin spare! Us dedicated dog owners brave all the harsh elements during the winter to exercise and socialise our dogs and we have the place to ourselves while all the little yaks are in playing on the xbox, and gradually falling victim to childhood obesity then as soon as the sun comes out the place is mobbed wiith self righteous parents demanding that the 4kg monster is put back on its lead lest it eat a small child haha In our park there's constantly broiken toys and sweet papers etc left behind as rubbish and what do the council do?? Put up a sign saying, "what sort of dog owner are you?" - I'm like...er one that cleans up after my dog?? What sort of parent are YOU?
Karlitto wrote: » Try reading the thread.
Karlitto wrote: » To be honest, in my park, it is far worse from the bigger kids, aka the scumbags drinking in the park, 99% of them won't take their crap with them, so on Saturday and Sunday mornings I bring a bag with me on my walk and pick up their cans, but unfortunately there is not much I can do about the smouldering remains of their fires and broken bottles.
frank reynolds wrote: » i think the pub is a grand place for children with their parents. As another poster said, there are activities held there, some are like community centres.
frank reynolds wrote: » YOU should be banned from the pub.
frank reynolds wrote: » you take pride in the fact that you bring your horrible hairy stinking dribbling mutt into the pub that could sh!t everywhere or p!ss everywhere.
frank reynolds wrote: » if anything should be banned, it's people who treat their dogs like they are human children.
frank reynolds wrote: » have you ever stopped to think that maybe you are the one getting more attention from the kids because you bring your dog to the pub? kids like animals pal, so maybe re-think that one and you might get to enjoy your drink a bit more.
frank reynolds wrote: » i cant argue with you anymore. your horrible opinions baffle me. you seem to be a product of greedy selfish celtic tiger ireland, and you wont of course agree with ANYTHING anyone has said even if it makes sense to you on here, but i hope it all hits you one day and you realise how sour you are being.
