Brother of missing girl stabbed to death

humanji · 10-06-2013 10:51AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

To be honest could you blame them abandoning her when she's brainwashed by such a controlling physco? She is being a complete tool for him putting him before her children and its no wonder she's on her own.

Oh I'm not condoning her actions at all. But they do make sense in her circumstances.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 10-06-2013 11:05AM

Camrat wrote: »

I disagree , Audrey missed the funeral because she couldn't face the press in her face, and she's back with him because it was a accident/self defence. If it wasn't why isn't he in jail. why is he walking the streets. This crap about her son knowing something about amy's death is just the media jumping on the wagon. If you knew something of the disappearance of your little sister you would f**kin wait 5 years to tell someone.

If she couldn't cope with the press in her face why was she flat out talking to them and posing for photos with the murderer not even 3 days later. Most families want privacy to come to terms with losing a family member, not Audrey though. She wanted her face on the front page of the paper. And I'm sorry I find it very hard to believe that when you pick up a knife and ram it into someone, that its an "accident", self defence? Why didn't he call the guards and an ambulance? Self defence is the minimum amount of force needed to get yourself out of danger. He skulked off hid the weapon and waited til the next day to contact the guards.

And who knows what he knew about his sister, anything could have been let slip or admitted in the heat of the moment.

cletus van damme · 10-06-2013 11:36AM

humanji wrote: »

How do you figure she's an awful mother? Her daughter is missing, presumed dead. She left an abusive relationship and ended up with a guy who killed her son. I can't imagine anyone being able to process all that and act rationally. It's not a sign of bad parenting, it's a sign of not being able to cope.

how do you know her relationship was abusive? Who said this?

Floppybits · 10-06-2013 11:41AM

Camrat wrote: »

I disagree , Audrey missed the funeral because she couldn't face the press in her face, and she's back with him because it was a accident/self defence. If it wasn't why isn't he in jail. why is he walking the streets. This crap about her son knowing something about amy's death is just the media jumping on the wagon. If you knew something of the disappearance of your little sister you would f**kin wait 5 years to tell someone.

I disagree with you, this has nothing to do with being unable to cope with the press, its more about painting herself as a victim and getting people to take pity on her. Look at what she has done since her son was killed, backed the person that killed him, made all the funeral arrangements to her own liking with no thought or any choice given to the bio-logical father or to her sons partner. It is a sad sad story for the whole family.

Camrat · 10-06-2013 11:42AM

First point: they were photographed leaving Mr Mahon father house.....Not posing for picture's. Except for when they gave a exclusive story.

Second point: Privacy, They have been in the papers over the last few years since the poor girl's disappearance. Then again a few weeks ago in the papers Mr Mahon was charged with Drink driving. Audrey didn't ring the papers, they heard from the garda and camped outside her sick fathers house, Mr Mahons father house and there apt.

By the sounds of thing's It was an accident, With forensic's and stuff how could he not be in jail if Mahon murdered him.

humanji · 10-06-2013 11:51AM

cletus van damme wrote: »

how do you know her relationship was abusive? Who said this?

It was in previous articles when the daughter went missing.

cletus van damme · 10-06-2013 11:56AM

Camrat wrote: »

By the sounds of thing's It was an accident, With forensic's and stuff how could he not be in jail if Mahon murdered him.

the file is still with the DPP so the he still may be charged.
even if charged he'd probably be out on bail anyway so you're point of him being is jail is not entirely accurate.

There are several factors that indicate it wasn't an accident.
But I guess we only have Mahon's word for what actually happened.

One he stabbed him, who defends themselves with a knife against their step son- no mention if dean had a weapon which in my mind would be the only legitimate reason for him stabbing dean , I'm sure that was the case we'd know about it as the media are all over this.

He didn't ring an ambulance straight away plus the knife was disposed of and he went to the gardai the next day.

If it was really an accident I'd expect him to ring emergency services straight away.

It's a very odd situation all over.

humanji wrote: »

It was in previous articles when the daughter went missing.

quoting her. she doesn't strike me as reliable tbh.

given dean lived with his dad and amy (by the accounts in yesterdays' rag ) wanted to also - I'd take that accusation with a pinch of salt.
Accusations about abuse in a relationship aren't always reliable.

If he did abuse the mother would the kids be keen to live with him? maybe but I'd say it was unlikely.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 10-06-2013 11:58AM

Camrat wrote: »

First point: they were photographed leaving Mr Mahon father house.....Not posing for picture's. Except for when they gave a exclusive story.

Second point: Privacy, They have been in the papers over the last few years since the poor girl's disappearance. Then again a few weeks ago in the papers Mr Mahon was charged with Drink driving. Audrey didn't ring the papers, they heard from the garda and camped outside her sick fathers house, Mr Mahons father house and there apt.

By the sounds of thing's It was an accident, With forensic's and stuff how could he not be in jail if Mahon murdered him.

The murderer gave an exclusive story once he got out of the Garda station, then the following day both of them gave an exclusive story, three days after her son was murdered she wanted to tell the whole country she was standing by him.

I have no doubt Mahon will be jailed, he's not off the hook by a long shot.

humanji · 10-06-2013 12:20PM

cletus van damme wrote: »

quoting her. she doesn't strike me as reliable tbh.

given dean lived with his dad and amy (by the accounts in yesterdays' rag ) wanted to also - I'd take that accusation with a pinch of salt.
Accusations about abuse in a relationship aren't always reliable.

If he did abuse the mother would the kids be keen to live with him? maybe but I'd say it was unlikely.

He'd been arrested for it, so it's pretty reliable. And sure while it might seem odd that the kids would want to live with him, it's also odd that the mother would want to be with the man who stabbed her son. People see others as how they want to see them and will blindly ignore the bad parts.

It seems the whole family have issues that, hopefully, none of us will ever have to deal with. And there's definitely a hell of a lot more that we don't know about the situation. It's all very bizarre.

Hootanany · 10-06-2013 12:31PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I read in one of the papers yesterday, that 5 months after she went missing her mother had her mobile phone on the late late show even though her best friend said Amy had the phone with her leaving her house and she "never made it home"

Yes her friends said she left with her phone how did the mother end up with :eek:

ronan45 · 11-06-2013 03:56PM

So am I right in saying........

If i pop down to my local tonight and on my way home "Accidently stab someone to death" in "self defence" Report it to no-one ...hide the weapon.... and pop into the local cop shop tommorow afternoon to make a statment. I can be back out in my local within 24 hours enjoyin a few bevvies?!?!?:eek:

up for anything · 11-06-2013 04:19PM

Camrat wrote: »

If you knew something of the disappearance of your little sister you would f**kin wait 5 years to tell someone.

He was little more than a child himself when his sister disappeared. His mother appears spellbound, maybe he was too at the time or in fear of his life. He wasn't far wrong.

Ash.J.Williams · 11-06-2013 04:20PM

Stopped for drink driving: "i was in fear of my life"
Stopped for killing his step son: "i was in fear of my life"

suspicious.

Camrat · 13-06-2013 05:13PM

Irish mail: deans partner speaks to police.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/dean-fitzpatricks-girlfriend-sarah-spent-1949661

JP Liz V1 · 13-06-2013 05:32PM

The mother is a f*cking disgrace imo for missing her son's funeral and also still being with his killer

Camrat · 26-07-2013 01:43PM

Man arrested in Dean Fitzpatrick stabbing probe this morning at 9.30am. see below.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-arrested-in-dean-fitzpatrick-stabbing-probe-29450888.html

ABajaninCork · 26-07-2013 02:25PM

Didn't they also give an interview in the Sun this week? Strange behaviour by anyone's standards...

Ash.J.Williams · 26-07-2013 02:26PM

something like "i went to the pub after i killed Dean"?

MusicalMelody · 26-07-2013 02:31PM

There is something so fishy about this story. I don't understand how Dave can say he took the knife off Dean and then Dean lunged for him and landed on the knife but yet then say I didn't think he was hurt so i left and went for a pint with a mate. If you accidentally stab someone they are obviously going to be hurt or at least you would check and see if they were OK before you leave for a drink. Don't like this Dave character, I think the mam is under his thumb.

Ash.J.Williams · 26-07-2013 02:42PM

MusicalMelody wrote: »

There is something so fishy about this story. I don't understand how Dave can say he took the knife off Dean and then Dean lunged for him and landed on the knife but yet then say I didn't think he was hurt so i left and went for a pint with a mate. If you accidentally stab someone they are obviously going to be hurt or at least you would check and see if they were OK before you leave for a drink. Don't like this Dave character, I think the mam is under his thumb.

in "normal" circumstances he would be making sure the victim was ok in respect to his duties as "mothers fella" or whatever he is

ronan45 · 26-07-2013 02:51PM

Is it Just me that sees the word Guilty written over someone(s) face(s)

http://www.thestar.ie/star/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dean.jpg

padd b1975 · 26-07-2013 02:55PM

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Didn't they also give an interview in the Sun this week? Strange behaviour by anyone's standards...

Yeah saw that, Audery snuggled up to her son's killer and her face set to "devastated" for the obligatory picture.

Nowt as queer as folk.

Ash.J.Williams · 26-07-2013 03:06PM

ronan45 wrote: »

Is it Just me that sees the word Guilty written over someone(s) face(s)

http://www.thestar.ie/star/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dean.jpg

The joe O'Reilly media face

Ash.J.Williams · 26-07-2013 03:14PM

“I’m not afraid to go to prison, I don’t want to go to prison, it’s not my fault he’s dead.
“Hands up I was the one with the knife in my hands. You know what I’m saying.”
Heartbroken Audrey, devastated by the tragedy involving the two men she loved the most, explained: “Dean pulled it first.
“I wasn’t there, I was minding my dad cos he has Alzheimer’s.
“But he (Dean) picked the knife out of the butcher block.” Dave added: “I went out the other door, I was going for a pint... if I’d gone out that door I’d have seen him (Dean) but I went out the side door where the car was parked.
“I didn’t know anything until the following day.”
Audrey, 45, added: “And neither did I.”

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/feeds/smartphone/ireland/5027481/Id-put-a-bullet-in-my-head-if-people-though-Id-killed-Amy.html#ixzz2aA2cfclC

kajo · 26-07-2013 04:18PM

humanji wrote: »

He'd been arrested for it, so it's pretty reliable. And sure while it might seem odd that the kids would want to live with him, it's also odd that the mother would want to be with the man who stabbed her son. People see others as how they want to see them and will blindly ignore the bad parts.

It seems the whole family have issues that, hopefully, none of us will ever have to deal with. And there's definitely a hell of a lot more that we don't know about the situation. It's all very bizarre.

The biological father was never taken to court for violence to his wife or anybody else for that matter.

Amazing how some people make things up to get their point across so you are wrong to stereotype people because their marriage has come to an end.

Ash.J.Williams · 26-07-2013 04:23PM

For me the oddest thing of all was they took the two kids to Spain "on holidays" only informing them when they got there that the had actually moved there. The kids wanted to stay in Dublin.

SEPT 23 1989 · 26-07-2013 04:24PM

i feel desperately sorry for the kids real father

rhiannan · 05-10-2013 05:17AM

Could it be a case of the ''mother'' being a mother to the partner and missing the whole point? If I was an amputee, I would crawl legless to the funeral of one of my children (God forbid that would ever happen)....but, if it did, there isn't God nor man who would keep me away.....unless I was in a coma OR Dead myself!! Here's the scenario...her partner fatally stabs her son, then goes to pub while she is out socializing and claims in aftermath of his arrest that he didn't think he had killed him??? Did he bother to check? Think that says it all!!

Cody Pomeray · 05-10-2013 06:19AM

rhiannan wrote: »

If I was an amputee, I would crawl legless to the funeral of one of my children (God forbid that would ever happen)....

Yes, lets hope you're one of the lucky ones. That happens a lot.

Hootanany · 05-10-2013 07:16AM

Has he been charged yet or is it the usual " A File is being approved by the DPP" ****?

Brother of missing girl stabbed to death

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