Brother of missing girl stabbed to death

Foxhound38

http://www.thejournal.ie/man-stabbed-to-death-in-dublin-5-925356-May2013/?utm_source=twitter_self

You'd have to feel absolutely aweful for the family, who apparently spent their life savings looking for the missing young one in the years since she disappeared, for this to happen must be almost too heavy to bear.

Another of our young citizens with what should have been his entire life ahead of him lies dead, the victim of yet another scumbag with a knife no doubt. Some of the things I've seen in the Dublin streets over the years makes me think that the scum well and truly own the streets and can act with impunity. I'm sure other Irish cities have similar problems. I cringe sometimes at the idea of the Gathering - bringing tourists over to witness and report back on the spectical of smacked out heroin addicts lurching around town, and the experience of getting intimidated at ATM's and Luas machines on a constant basis. Don't even get me started on the Dublin boardwalks

What can be done to reclaim them for ordinary, decent people?

branie

How will the family cope with new tragedy?

orestes

How have you gone from a tragic incident in a Dublin suburb that the police have barely had a chance to start investigating and the victims unfortunate relation to a missing teenager (who went missing in a different country) to every city in the country being infested with knife and syringe wielding junkie-apocalypse zombies terrorising tourists?

I'm not saying that the event wasn't tragic, but I think you might be going off on a teeny bit of a tangent.

Foxhound38

orestes wrote: »

How have you gone from a tragic incident in a Dublin suburb that the police have barely had a chance to start investigating and the victims unfortunate relation to a missing teenager (who went missing in a different country) to every city in the country being infested with knife and syringe wielding junkie-apocalypse zombies terrorising tourists?

I'm not saying that the event wasn't tragic, but I think you might be going off on a teeny bit of a tangent.

I just despair of how we seem to have completely lost control of the crime situation, and another young person lies dead because of it. Another family destroyed

dodderangler

I know the victims cousin
It's absolutely horrible and tragic and words will never describe how that family feels right now
My thought are with them

orestes

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I just despair of how we seem to have completely lost control of the crime situation, and another young person lies dead because of it. Another family destroyed

We haven't lost control of the crime situation, we live in one of the safest countries in the world, despite what the tabloids would have people believe. We don't even know the details of this incident and you sound like a Joe Duffy caller.

monkey9

Gets worse. The stepfather has been arrested for it.

Nodin

Foxhound38 wrote: »

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What can be done to reclaim them for ordinary, decent people?

Nothing. Charles Bronson is dead.


We're all gonna die..........

Femme_Fatale

Ouch, the stupidity of TheJournal.ie reader comments hurts my eyes...

my friend

Mahon was sentenced to jail for 4 months on March 13th 2013

One wonders why he wasn't in jail

charlemont

Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking ?

woodoo

charlemont wrote: »

Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking ?

I'm asking myself where the step father was when Amy went missing?

Guy:Incognito

charlemont wrote: »

Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking ?

The butler did it in the pantry with the carving knife?

Arciphel

Can anyone link to a source where it says the stepfather has been arrested, as i can't see this being reported anywhere.

orestes

Arciphel wrote: »

Can anyone link to a source where it says the stepfather has been arrested, as i can't see this being reported anywhere.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/amy-fitzpatricks-stepfather-arrested-over-fatal-stabbing-of-her-brother-29297450.html

charlemont

woodoo wrote: »

I'm asking myself where the step father was when Amy went missing?

Exactly what I thought of too..

expectationlost

woodoo wrote: »

I'm asking myself where the step father was when Amy went missing?

im asking where was the brother?

daRobot

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The butler did it in the pantry with the carving knife?

Cheap laugh. Show some respect.

padd b1975

charlemont wrote: »

Exactly what I thought of too..

:eek::eek:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/amy-fitzpatricks-stepfather-arrested-over-fatal-stabbing-of-her-brother-29297450.html

juice1304

Dean was a lovely person with a good heart. I was on a course with him and he was always very nice, he lived about 30m down the road from me. I only saw him last Thursday scary stuff, When I read his name in the article earlier on this evening it turned my stomach. Terrible stuff altogether. RIP.

maninasia

orestes wrote: »

We haven't lost control of the crime situation, we live in one of the safest countries in the world, despite what the tabloids would have people believe. We don't even know the details of this incident and you sound like a Joe Duffy caller.

You don't live in one of the safest countries in the world. It's far from the most dangerous, but also far from the safest.

Quaorn

maninasia wrote: »

You don't live in one of the safest countries in the world. It's far from the most dangerous, but also far from the safest.

There is 196 countries in the world. Where doe's Ireland rank? Honest question just asking if anyone knows the crime stats.

osarusan

Quaorn wrote: »

There is 196 countries in the world. Where doe's Ireland rank? Honest question just asking if anyone knows the crime stats.

you'd probably have to break it down into different kinds of crime, but according to this random website which gives no data to support its conclusions, we're 4th.

http://www.clicktop10.com/2013/04/top-10-safest-countries-to-live-in-2013/

6th here:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Safest_countries_in_the_world

maninasia

So what happened to Asia, it doesn't exist? Of all the countries I have been too some Asian countries have the lowest levels of random violence and vandalism and street crime. Dublin is a crime heaven compared to those places.

Ireland gets an artificially high rating due to neutrality and being in a relatively safe area of the world. That kind of safety.

Tipsy McSwagger

maninasia wrote: »

So what happened to Asia, it doesn't exist? Of all the countries I have been too some Asian countries have the lowest levels of random violence and vandalism and street crime. Dublin is a crime heaven compared to those places.

Ireland gets an artificially high rating due to neutrality and being in a relatively safe area of the world. That kind of safety.

Dublin is not Ireland

jam_mac_jam

maninasia wrote: »

So what happened to Asia, it doesn't exist? Of all the countries I have been too some Asian countries have the lowest levels of random violence and vandalism and street crime. Dublin is a crime heaven compared to those places.

Ireland gets an artificially high rating due to neutrality and being in a relatively safe area of the world. That kind of safety.

Asia is a fairly big place.. Ireland has a high rate because it has low levels of crime

John_Rambo

maninasia wrote: »

Ireland gets an artificially high rating due to neutrality and being in a relatively safe area of the world.

A safety rating because its a safe place?

Balmed Out

maninasia wrote: »

So what happened to Asia, it doesn't exist? Of all the countries I have been too some Asian countries have the lowest levels of random violence and vandalism and street crime. Dublin is a crime heaven compared to those places.

Ireland gets an artificially high rating due to neutrality and being in a relatively safe area of the world. That kind of safety.

Ha Ha. What about non random violence? Ireland is far far safer then most of Asia and certainly the parts of it ive been to. If you travel outside Dublin and you will find most of Ireland is a very safe place to be. Indeed I dont see Dublin as being all that bad either.

maninasia

Compared to Singapore, Korea,Taiwan, Japan and numerous other places Ireland is not particularly safe. As I said it's not terrible, and it's really not great either. Being on the city centre streets after pub closing time can be particularly hazardous on the weekends. Many country areas have no police presence at all. Lots of suburbs and towns around the country are dodgy as hell too.
Junkies mull around on the capital's promenades hassling people, shoplifting, mugging and stealing phones. You can't leave anything outside for a minute without nailing the fecker down.

marob1969

my friend wrote: »

Mahon was sentenced to jail for 4 months on March 13th 2013

One wonders why he wasn't in jail

May I ask for what?

maninasia

John_Rambo wrote: »

A safety rating because its a safe place?

Geopolitical safety and crime safety are two different things.

kippy

RIP to the deceased and I hope his family can get over this. They've a tough number of years.


On the issues of "safety" - we might live in what one would call a "relatively" low crime invironment however some of our capital cities streets needs to be sorted out. The sheer number of scumbags, druggies and alcos is somewhat concerning. It's not just about "moving them" to the next street, one has to ask why there are so many?
Indeed I've begun to see more an more of these people in Limerick and indeed Galway as well and I would have genuine concerns for their own safety and the safety of others in years to come, particularly those with drug problems.

Not saying the deceased or indeed the story in general has anything to do with this mind.

cournioni

marob1969 wrote: »

May I ask for what?

Its a suspended sentence for driving dangerously under the influence of alcohol. Around New Years according to this:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/stepfather-arrested-over-murder-of-amys-brother-29298296.html

garv123

Foxhound38 wrote: »

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Another of our young citizens with what should have been his entire life ahead of him lies dead, the victim of yet another scumbag with a knife no doubt. Some of the things I've seen in the Dublin streets over the years makes me think that the scum well and truly own the streets and can act with impunity. I'm sure other Irish cities have similar problems. I cringe sometimes at the idea of the Gathering - bringing tourists over to witness and report back on the spectical of smacked out heroin addicts lurching around town, and the experience of getting intimidated at ATM's and Luas machines on a constant basis. Don't even get me started on the Dublin boardwalks

monkey9 wrote: »

Gets worse. The stepfather has been arrested for it.

So you were saying OP?





Terrible for the rest of the family. RIP

cournioni

garv123 wrote: »

Foxhound38 wrote: »

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Another of our young citizens with what should have been his entire life ahead of him lies dead, the victim of yet another scumbag with a knife no doubt. Some of the things I've seen in the Dublin streets over the years makes me think that the scum well and truly own the streets and can act with impunity. I'm sure other Irish cities have similar problems. I cringe sometimes at the idea of the Gathering - bringing tourists over to witness and report back on the spectical of smacked out heroin addicts lurching around town, and the experience of getting intimidated at ATM's and Luas machines on a constant basis. Don't even get me started on the Dublin boardwalks

So you were saying OP?


Terrible for the rest of the family. RIP

It's still a scumbag with a knife regardless.

John_Rambo

maninasia wrote: »

Geopolitical safety and crime safety are two different things.

Safety is safety.

Condolences to the family. Maybe you should start a new thread on how terribly unsafe Ireland is and all the wonderful travels you have been on?

kunst nugget

cournioni wrote: »

garv123 wrote: »

It's still a scumbag with a knife regardless.

But it stops being the sort of random act of violence that the OP was wringing his hands about when he was bemoaning how hard it is for the ordinary decent citizen these days.

cournioni

kunst nugget wrote: »

But it stops being the sort of random act of violence that the OP was wringing his hands about when he was bemoaning how hard it is for the ordinary decent citizen these days.

Agreed, however, one cannot disagree that random acts of violence are still a problem in our nations capital and in other towns and cities across the country. Its easy to see how the OP jumped to such a conclusion, whether he was wrong or right.

I'd imagine most find the current story more shocking than if it was a random act of violence which says a lot.

kunst nugget

cournioni wrote: »

Agreed, however, one cannot disagree that random acts of violence are still a problem in our nations capital and in other towns and cities across the country. Its easy to see how the OP jumped to such a conclusion, whether he was wrong or right.

I'd imagine most find the current story more shocking than if it was a random act of violence which says a lot.

Sure, there's lots of random petty crime but how many random murders do we actually see in this state? Sure, junkies are a bit of a nuisance and muggings I suppose are common enough but tbf it's usually pretty easy to avoid hassle in Dublin.

my friend

cournioni wrote: »

Its a suspended sentence for driving dangerously under the influence of alcohol. Around New Years according to this:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/stepfather-arrested-over-murder-of-amys-brother-29298296.html

No, incorrect..

Mahon was walking the streets on €400 bail / €400 surety

The sentence was not suspended.

yourdeadwright

i wonder will we find out what exactly happened here if theres any witnesses ,
Is it just me or did anyone else have a dislike towards the step dad , i know it sound a bit harsh but i aways thought he was a bit strange when on tv, hard to explain exactly what but like he a bit of a chancer,

maninasia

John_Rambo wrote: »

Safety is safety.

Condolences to the family. Maybe you should start a new thread on how terribly unsafe Ireland is and all the wonderful travels you have been on?

Who said it was 'terribly unsafe'?

Safety is safety, what's that mean?

joe stodge

cournioni wrote: »

Its a suspended sentence for driving dangerously under the influence of alcohol. Around New Years according to this:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/stepfather-arrested-over-murder-of-amys-brother-29298296.html

Should this not raise questions over Amy's disappearance now?

humanji

Folks, no speculative accusations about crimes you don't have the facts to.

cournioni

my friend wrote: »

No, incorrect..

Mahon was walking the streets on €400 bail / €400 surety

The sentence was not suspended.

Do you have a link for that?

ronan45

yourdeadwright wrote: »

i wonder will we find out what exactly happened here if theres any witnesses ,
Is it just me or did anyone else have a dislike towards the step dad , i know it sound a bit harsh but i aways thought he was a bit strange when on tv, hard to explain exactly what but like he a bit of a chancer,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxlez8s1mVE

Here he is on a morning show also, i remember him looking very cocky and sure of himself on a late night show was it the late late?? Cant recall. I find him quite suspicious

ronan45

joe stodge wrote: »

Should this not raise questions over Amy's disappearance now?

Judge Ann Watkin described the 42-year-old's dangerous driving as "horrendous" and said he had told "blatant lies". She added that he had shown no remorse and it was a miracle he had not killed other motorists as she imposed the jail term and a five-year ban.

realdanbreen

Dublin would be OK if it wasn't full of bleedin Dub's!:cool:

sunflower27

God, what a scumbag. The obvious question is where was he when Amy went missing a 10min walk from her home in Spain.

I was only in the supermarket an hour ago and saw the book on Amy for sale.

darkdubh

One of the things that struck me about this case at the time was why the hell did they use that picture of her that they did in the missing poster?The one where she was dressed up like a teen hooker.Surely they had some normal pictures of her that they could have used?

sunflower27

darkdubh wrote: »

One of the things that struck me about this case at the time was why the hell did they use that picture of her that they did in the missing poster?The one where she was dressed up like a teen hooker.Surely they had some normal pictures of her that they could have used?

May have been the most recent. The mum probably didn't think twice about giving the most recent to the press.