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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    wench wrote: »
    They'll need to hand out something stronger than just tea with this line-up...

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/06/05/body-and-soul-line-up/

    'Meridian of Mediocrity'


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    An african priest with a very stylish goatee seems to have spent a very great deal of time suckling at the wonky, head-hurting, heaving breast of John Waters:

    http://www.irishcatholic.ie/20130606/news/ireland-new-mission-frontier-african-jesuit-S34116.html
    wrote:
    "For such former mission territories, Ireland, as well as the rest of Europe, now represents a new mission frontier in the world Church," [...] "the irresistible tsunami of secularisation erodes the capacity of traditional Catholic culture hitherto considered as the primary transmitter of faith" [...] "The dwindling missionary capital of the Church in Ireland lies beyond doubt. The question is: Is Ireland ready to harvest the fruits of its missionary labours on its own soil or will the Church simply opt to bear the burden of diminishment with resentment and nostalgia?" [...] He said that mission does not terminate with the departure of the missionary to a "vaguely remembered homeland recently fallen prey to marauding secularising forces and a Church besmirched by sex abuse scandals". [...] "On the contrary, mission progresses to a new stage with the coming of age of mission territories and assumption of responsibility for the mission of the Church by local personnel." [...] "In practical terms, this new partnership for mission in the world Church places on the Church in the global south the duty of offering suitably qualified personnel and human resources to the Church in Ireland as well as the responsibility of learning to live in and adapt to an unfamiliar culture, just as Irish missionaries did in erstwhile foreign missions," Fr Orobator said. [...] "For several centuries successive generations of courageous women and men sailed from the shores of Ireland to various parts of the world as ambassadors of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. As we speak, the Church in Ireland urgently needs the resuscitating breath of the Church in the south in order to survive and grow."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭SebBerkovich


    robindch wrote: »
    An african priest with a very stylish goatee seems to have spent a very great deal of time suckling at the wonky, head-hurting, heaving breast of John Waters:

    http://www.irishcatholic.ie/20130606/news/ireland-new-mission-frontier-african-jesuit-S34116.html

    From here on in if anyone asks me where i stand on the whole God/Church thing i shall proclaim
    "I'm a proud member of the marauding secularising forces"

    Note to self: possible idea for an awesome cartoon...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Is there no end to these loony bastards?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    From here on in if anyone asks me where i stand on the whole God/Church thing i shall proclaim
    "I'm a proud member of the marauding secularising forces"

    Note to self: possible idea for an awesome cartoon...
    Reminds me of this. Yeah, it should be in Funny, but aproppriate.

    321.gif


    Well. Boxes 2 and 4 specifically I guess. I thought box 2 was a comic in it's own right. <<


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,864 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    robindch wrote: »
    An african priest with a very stylish goatee seems to have spent a very great deal of time suckling at the wonky, head-hurting, heaving breast of John Waters:

    http://www.irishcatholic.ie/20130606/news/ireland-new-mission-frontier-african-jesuit-S34116.html

    Sadly for him, the majority of those in Ireland still willing to listen to the 'catholic message' are oul' wans who tend to be racist as f*ck.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,484 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    AntiAtheismAlliance
    @3Amovement
    The 3A Movement (Anti Atheism Alliance) seeks to fight the onslaught of pro-atheism propaganda and preserve the USA as a Christian nation.

    https://twitter.com/3Amovement

    Not sure if this is real or a parody...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭SebBerkovich


    AntiAtheismAlliance
    @3Amovement
    The 3A Movement (Anti Atheism Alliance) seeks to fight the onslaught of pro-atheism propaganda and preserve the USA as a Christian nation.

    https://twitter.com/3Amovement

    Not sure if this is real or a parody...

    Well, it's not too surprising, The USA does tend to produce the strangest collectives.
    Also i think they're going to be pretty upset the day they find out that
    a) It's Secularism that they should be worried about
    and
    b) Secularism is protected in their infallible constitution


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    On the down side, the decision of two NZ parents not to vaccinate their three kids nearly cost one of them his life. On the plus side, the boy has mostly recovered, the family have gone public about their decision not to vaccinate and some heart-rending pictures of the child in intensive care have gone up around the country, causing vaccination rates to increase:

    http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/06/06/3776327.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Well, it's not too surprising, The USA does tend to produce the strangest collectives.
    Also i think they're going to be pretty upset the day they find out that
    a) It's Secularism that they should be worried about
    and
    b) Secularism is protected in their infallible constitution

    c) America was founded as a secular state and was never a Christian nation.

    d) Trying to turn America into a Christian nation is distinctly unAmerican in principle!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,864 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    robindch wrote: »
    On the down side, the decision of two NZ parents not to vaccinate their three kids nearly cost one of them his life. On the plus side, the boy has mostly recovered, the family have gone public about their decision not to vaccinate and some heart-rending pictures of the child in intensive care have gone up around the country, causing vaccination rates to increase:

    http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/06/06/3776327.htm

    38651056.jpg

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin



    The pope has admitted the existence of a network of gay prelates in the Vatican, reports published on Tuesday said
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/12/reports-pope-gay-prelate-network

    Closeted gay men in the Vatican. Who could have believed it, eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Not religion, but certainly a case of an insane belief:
    Living on light: woman attempts to prove humans can live without food

    A 65-year-old Seattle woman is attempting to go 100 days on just water, shunning all medical advice in the process
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/14/living-on-light-without-food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Not religion, but certainly a case of an insane belief:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/14/living-on-light-without-food

    Well... may she rest in peace, I suppose. I really can't see any other outcome for someone who attempts to live on air for three months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Not religion, but certainly a case of an insane belief:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/14/living-on-light-without-food

    The phrase 'terminally stupid' springs to mind. Is idiocy becoming a self-regulating problem at last?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    "Darwin Awards", anyone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    That's for removing yourself from the gene pool. She's probably a bit old to be having kids, or she's already had some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Sarky wrote: »
    That's for removing yourself from the gene pool. She's probably a bit old to be having kids, or she's already had some.
    Apparently not. I lost interest when I found that it did not matter if they had already managed to breed.

    MrP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,669 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Probably not the right place, but I finally got round to watching 'Deliver Us From Evil' last night. Even though it didn't really demonstrate anything that isn't already known or suspected about the cover-up in the church, I was mad as f*ck for the rest of the night. I suppose it's one thing to know what's happening and another thing to see pure evidence of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Apparently not. I lost interest when I found that it did not matter if they had already managed to breed.

    MrP
    Are you sure? I was under the impression that it wasn't possible to win a Darwin Award if you had already bred, but there is an "honourable mentions" category for people who had already bred, or who didn't successfully remove themselves from the gene pool (just very nearly did).

    "Honourable mention" on the basis that their stupidity means that they or their offspring or likely to succeed in winning an award at some later stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    seamus wrote: »
    Are you sure? I was under the impression that it wasn't possible to win a Darwin Award if you had already bred, but there is an "honourable mentions" category for people who had already bred, or who didn't successfully remove themselves from the gene pool (just very nearly did).

    "Honourable mention" on the basis that their stupidity means that they or their offspring or likely to succeed in winning an award at some later stage.
    I thought that as well, it was actually someone on this board that pointed out that it did not matter if they had had kids.

    EDIT: Here it is.

    MrP


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Remember reading about all that religious violence recently in Burma?

    Turns out that it has a solid, rational basis:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/04/969-the-strange-numerological-basis-for-burmas-religious-violence/274816/
    [...]

    One number has become indelibly associated with these attacks - 969, a "grassroots" Buddhist nationalist movement that many claim is supported by elements within the military. While 969's unofficial leaders claim that the movement is a non-violent response to a Buddhist society under strain from "foreign" influence, its rhetoric brings to mind the kind of language associated with the worst mass atrocities of the 20th century.

    969 has its ideological roots in a book written in the late 1990s by U Kyaw Lwin, a functionary in the ministry of religious affairs, and its precepts are rooted in a traditional belief in numerology. Across South Asia, Muslims represent the phrase bismillah-ir-rahman-ir-rahim, or "In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate and Merciful," with the number 786, and businesses display the number to indicate that they are Muslim-owned. 969's proponents see this as evidence of a Muslim plot to conquer Burma in the 21st century, based on the implausible premise that 7 plus 8 plus 6 is equal to 21. The number 969 is intended be 786's cosmological opposite, and represents the "three jewels:" the nine attributes of the Buddha, the six attributes of his teachings, and the nine attributes of the Sangha, or monastic order.

    U Kyaw Lwin's ideas came to prominence in November of last year, when a religious order in Mon State - the Gana Wasaka Sangha - began to invoke them in local anti-Muslim campaigns. Since January, taxis, buses, and businesses across Rangoon have begun to proudly display its brightly colored emblem.

    Despite a lack of 969 regalia on U Tun Khin's car (not his real name), a few minutes of conversation showed his stripes as a believer to the core. "The Muslims are very smart. They use their smarts to [threaten] our Buddhist society. Some Muslims are good, but there are too many who are Ali Babas (thieves)," he said. "They get money from Muslim countries, and they want to conquer us and destroy Buddhism. They are foreigners, they should feel lucky we treat them well as guests."

    The figure often identified as the de-facto leader of 969 is a monk named Ashin Wirathu, who was jailed in 2003 for inciting religious conflict and released as part of a general amnesty in January 2012. The content of his sermons, distributed via DVDs he produces at his monastery in Mandalay, would not be out of place at the Nuremberg rallies.

    [...]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Jesus, run_to_da_hills has gone feral revolutionary after getting banned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Sarky wrote: »
    Jesus, run_to_da_hills has gone feral revolutionary after getting banned.

    Que?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Que?

    You haven't had the dubious pleasure of trying to rationally engage the legendary RTDH, late of this parish?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    endacl wrote: »
    You haven't had the dubious pleasure of trying to rationally engage the legendary RTDH, late of this parish?

    I read his ravings once. Three days later I snapped out of a coma. I was just wondering what he managed to do after leaving the building.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Not religion, but certainly a case of an insane belief:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/14/living-on-light-without-food
    Maybe it could be called a quasi religion, certainly there is some sort of spiritual element. The woman is a follower of Jasmuheen, who "is a proponent of pranic nourishment or breatharianism..."
    Check out the website, it talks (and sells ;) ) a lot of crazy $hit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I read his ravings once. Three days later I snapped out of a coma. I was just wondering what he managed to do after leaving the building.

    I believe he's popped back in several times. Just to say hello and check for post.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Things are bad when you lose a libel case to a psychic.

    MrP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭SebBerkovich


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Things are bad when you lose a libel case to a psychic.

    MrP

    The UK need to get their act together and fix their libel laws. It's getting more and more ridiculous.


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