201 Class Locomotives

n0brain3r · 23-05-2013 12:25PM

209 just hauled a Cork service through Sallins

Captain Chaos · 23-05-2013 07:55PM

At Connolly today at 13:30 there was 231 on the turntable with 226 in front on the loco refueling road. Passing by again at 15:30 and 231 was at the end of the wash road with 226 backing away from it. I don't know what exactly was going on but it looked as if 226 had hauled 231 from the fuel siding and pushed it to the end of the wash road. Strange shunting movements, couldn't figure what was going on exactly.

Oscar Bravo · 23-05-2013 08:49PM

232 worked the second IWT to Ballina passing through Manulla Junction at 1915.

goingnowhere · 23-05-2013 10:51PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Not so, there is a collapsible bracket on each Mk4 coach on each side for a tail lamp

You can just about see it in this photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/cork_trains/8487084732/lightbox/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/cork_trains/8483731604/lightbox/

MU through the front of the DVT is not authorised as the door controls get messed up, so you have to have another 201 (or for the sake of argument a 121) on the back.

Equally if you double head the lead locos door controls are swapped.

23-05-2013 10:58PM

goingnowhere wrote: »

Not so, there is a collapsible bracket on each Mk4 coach on each side for a tail lamp

Yep, note the IRRS headboard on the DVT here.

I'm intrigued by your comment on the door controls, interesting.

Captain Chaos · 23-05-2013 10:59PM

So basically just a case of the polarity of the MU cables getting crossed over with no rectifier in place to correct it at that end? And with 2x 201s at one end, it corrects it for one loco but the other swaps is back the wrong way round.

n0brain3r · 28-05-2013 11:09AM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

So basically just a case of the polarity of the MU cables getting crossed over with no rectifier in place to correct it at that end? And with 2x 201s at one end, it corrects it for one loco but the other swaps is back the wrong way round.

I'm trying to get this train config straight in my head the train was Dublin bound so would of been operated from the DVT but an issue required a loco at this end in front of the DVT and this resulted in the door controls being unusable and the train being out of serivce?

227 just worked an IWT to Ballina passing Sallins @ 11:00

goingnowhere · 28-05-2013 01:21PM

The 201 on the DVT end would not be connected with an MU cable

Door controls would be usable from the rear 201 (as normal) or DVT. Train would be required to carry a second driver or guard as it is no longer considered a push pull DOO service, they operate the doors. If not present train could not carry passengers.

n0brain3r · 28-05-2013 05:23PM

222 just operated a Cork service passing Sallins @ 17:20

Captain Chaos · 28-05-2013 06:34PM

8208 and 233 both spare at Connolly at 15:30. 233 had it's screw coupler in place of the Dellner so it was not up to a quick swap if needed. 8208 was being fueled on the turntable road.

pointsman · 29-05-2013 09:00AM

206 working LE York Road / Inchicore as we speak. Left Central at 0815 and just approaching Portadown now..233 is returning to Belfast when the NIR Crew get down

pointsman · 31-05-2013 03:36PM

Can anyone confirm where 228 is at the minute? Haven't seen it out in months

Captain Chaos · 31-05-2013 08:28PM

Today at 13:00 heading into Connolly I saw a 201 hauling an IWT liner into Northwall yard. 206 and 230 were spare at Connolly shed while 207 was in platform 3 with an Enterprise set.

Jamie2k9 · 31-05-2013 11:46PM

208 failed this morning or was about to fail so removed on arrival at Belfast.

metrovick001 · 01-06-2013 11:12AM

Hard to believe its over five years ago but here is 212 & a rake of MK3s work the 1830 Dublin Heuston-Tralee through Sallins station on 06-May-2008.

nerve agent · 05-06-2013 06:47PM

227 was sitting in Antrim with the Enterprise set at 1400 this afternoon.

n0brain3r · 06-06-2013 01:55PM

pointsman wrote: »

Can anyone confirm where 228 is at the minute? Haven't seen it out in months

Possibly saw her on an IWT for Ballina today

Oscar Bravo · 06-06-2013 11:41PM

230 in bother earlier http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-22805136. 220 and 215 in Ballina at 2200 tonight.

06-06-2013 11:45PM

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

230 in bother earlier http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-22805136. 220 and 215 in Ballina at 2200 tonight.

Sounds like a repeat of 206's near write-off a decade ago.

n0brain3r · 07-06-2013 09:19AM

Sounds like a job well done by the crew/driver uncoupling and moving her away from the passengers. Is there no fire suppression system fitted to the 201's?

Captain Chaos · 07-06-2013 10:09AM

n0brain3r wrote: »

Is there no fire suppression system fitted to the 201's?

Yes there is, they are fitted with an FM 200 extinguisher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM200

Jamie2k9 · 07-06-2013 11:02AM

n0brain3r wrote: »

Sounds like a job well done by the crew/driver uncoupling and moving her away from the passengers. Is there no fire suppression system fitted to the 201's?

It wasn't removed from the train, unless the driver was able to push it. I think media are mixing up that many passenger were evacuated and some had to stay on board at the opposite end of the train.

Captain Chaos · 07-06-2013 11:16AM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

It wasn't removed from the train, unless the driver was able to push it. I think media are mixing up that many passenger were evacuated and some had to stay on board at the opposite end of the train.

The BBC picture with the fire crews around loco 230 show it still coupled to the train, sounds like a mix up alright.

n0brain3r · 07-06-2013 11:17AM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Yes there is, they are fitted with an FM 200 extinguisher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM200

Does anyone know how it's implemented on the 201's? Going by the reports it appears it failed badly. Does the system make any attempt to isolate external air supply from the engine room? Is that even possible?

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

It wasn't removed from the train, unless the driver was able to push it. I think media are mixing up that many passenger were evacuated and some had to stay on board at the opposite end of the train.

Did they really allow passengers to stay on board with the engine on fire?

Was there ever a report into the fire on 206 released?

shamwari · 07-06-2013 11:18AM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

It wasn't removed from the train, unless the driver was able to push it. I think media are mixing up that many passenger were evacuated and some had to stay on board at the opposite end of the train.

Listening to BK on Morning Ireland earlier, he made no mention of the loco being uncoupled. He said that the fire services requested pax in the coach(es) closest to the loco to move coaches further up the train.

The only mention I saw of the loco being disconnected was on RTE & BBC websites, and looking at their wording, one report seemed more or less to be plagiarised from the other

The photos taken at lineside when the fire was out clearly show the loco still coupled to the rest of the set.

Irrespective, it looks like it was a nightware for those involved

steamengine · 07-06-2013 12:23PM

What type of fire broke out and was it on the engine or a generator / elsewhere ?

What exactly what was burning - fuel or lub oil, electrical insulation material, drive belts or other ?

Anyone know ?

n0brain3r · 07-06-2013 12:36PM

shamwari wrote: »

The photos taken at lineside when the fire was out clearly show the loco still coupled to the rest of the set.

Irrespective, it looks like it was a nightware for those involved

What photos are you looking at all I can find shows the Loco and maybe one carriage but not the full set or is it impossible to break the set further back line side?

EDIT: Found a pic here http://www.thejournal.ie/fire-belfast-dublin-train-940538-Jun2013/

n0brain3r · 07-06-2013 03:21PM

All seen at Sallins
219 hauled an IWT to Ballina @ 12:00
220 hauled an IWT to Dublin @ 12:25
223 hauled a Cork service @ 13:20
222 hauled a Cork service @ 14:20

pointsman · 08-06-2013 11:49AM

nerve agent wrote: »

227 was sitting in Antrim with the Enterprise set at 1400 this afternoon.

Correct - 227 worked a test run to Antrim and back with 2 standard, 1 diner & DVT 9001. First visit of a 201 Class in Antrim in quite a few years

Photos @ Antrim & Whiteabbey of the test -

http://chrisplayfair.smugmug.com/Travel/2013-Photos/June-2013/29769448_Nw2Rvs#!i=2557156087&k=jBHGxKs

dowlingm · 08-06-2013 07:12PM

2 standard 1 diner 1 DVT - that would be the fleet spares? Wonder what the point of that was, unless a run from Lisburn to Antrim is also on the cards to certify the diversion route?

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