The awkward moment when you punch a scumbag and he doesn't get back up

EuskalHerria · 06-06-2013 09:13PM

old hippy wrote: »

Well, perhaps I'm over reacting a wee bit. One just gets a bit exasperated by the sheer volume of "skanger" related posts.

As I said, I don't much care for violence, no matter who's dishing it out.

Skanger is a generic term though for someone acting in a severely anti social and counter productive manner in regards to society.
Also if you're not interested by the regularity of certain themes within AH contribute a thread or two yourself to freshen things up.

Had that been an unprovoked attack I would agree with you. However I'd be interested in any other avenue that Garda had to protect her own safety at the point that person had attacked her.

old hippy · 06-06-2013 09:26PM

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Skanger is a generic term though for someone acting in a severely anti social and counter productive manner in regards to society.
Also if you're not interested by the regularity of certain themes within AH contribute a thread or two yourself to freshen things up.

Had that been an unprovoked attack I would agree with you. However I'd be interested in any other avenue that Garda had to protect her own safety at the point that person had attacked her.

I have contributed several threads over the years I've been here.

The "skanger" term should be a generic but I've seen it used in very narrow confines on AH, usually by choice comments about clothing/accents etc, followed by calls for sterilisation and other violent and draconian suggestions

Arcsin · 06-06-2013 09:31PM

Great work by the Garda.

There is always some idiot who will rush to the scumbags defence, but that guy got what was coming to him.

No one, especially Gardai, should be afraid to use force when it's clearly called for.

SB2013 · 06-06-2013 09:32PM

old hippy wrote: »

Well, perhaps I'm over reacting a wee bit. One just gets a bit exasperated by the sheer volume of "skanger" related posts.

As I said, I don't much care for violence, no matter who's dishing it out.

None of which had been made at the time of your police brutality claim. Also worth noting is that you were the first to mention anything about sterilising the "working class".

old hippy · 06-06-2013 09:35PM

SB2013 wrote: »

None of which had been made at the time of your police brutality claim. Also worth noting is that you were the first to mention anything about sterilising the "working class".

Following on from numerous threads calling for sterilisation of "skangers", as I said previously - I may have over reacted due to those kind of threads causing a bit of fatigue.

old hippy · 06-06-2013 09:36PM

Arcsin wrote: »

Great work by the Garda.

There is always some idiot who will rush to the scumbags defence, but that guy got what was coming to him.

No one, especially Gardai, should be afraid to use force when it's clearly called for.

Any idiots spring to mind?

Arcsin · 06-06-2013 09:39PM

SB2013 wrote: »

None of which had been made at the time of your police brutality claim. Also worth noting is that you were the first to mention anything about sterilising the "working class".

He's a liberal keyboard warrior in the safety of his sitting room. I'd like to see him deal with that situation.

Arcsin · 06-06-2013 09:40PM

old hippy wrote: »

Any idiots spring to mind?

Why, are you volunteering for the job?

old hippy · 06-06-2013 09:43PM

Arcsin wrote: »

He's a liberal keyboard warrior in the safety of his sitting room. I'd like to see him deal with that situation.

You have a history of making unsubstantiated and baseless assumptions about me, iirc. I have been attacked in Dublin during my teens and twenties, however, I am not of the same mindset that believes violent retribution and a good old laugh about "skangers" is the answer.

I've dealt with situations you can only dream of. Thing is, they tend to make you look at the bigger picture, rather than sound off about stuff you don't comprehend.

LizT · 06-06-2013 09:44PM

Mod

Let's keep it civil please.

Arcsin · 06-06-2013 09:49PM

old hippy wrote: »

You have a history of making unsubstantiated and baseless assumptions about me, iirc. I have been attacked in Dublin during my teens and twenties, however, I am not of the same mindset that believes violent retribution and a good old laugh about "skangers" is the answer.

I've dealt with situations you can only dream of. Thing is, they tend to make you look at the bigger picture, rather than sound off about stuff you don't comprehend.

That wasn't violent retribution though, that was a Garda responding to an assault. Gardai can do that, so can private citizens.

Please give me an example of one of those situations, being vague leads me to believe you are bluffing. Bearing in mind I worked on the doors for many years as well as serving in the army, I am more than familiar with violence and its effects.

old hippy · 06-06-2013 10:10PM

Arcsin wrote: »

That wasn't violent retribution though, that was a Garda responding to an assault. Gardai can do that, so can private citizens.

Please give me an example of one of those situations, being vague leads me to believe you are bluffing. Bearing in mind I worked on the doors for many years as well as serving in the army, I am more than familiar with violence and its effects.

I don't do bluffs, believe it or not. I have been assaulted on the streets of London and Dublin, by both members of the public and police officers (on peaceful demos and protest marches). I know what I'm talking about.

I also worked in a few newsrooms in Dublin and dealt with the Garda press office (so I'm not anti-police, if that's your angle) every morning and the litany of violence was not pleasing. Some of that included violence carried out by ex army and bouncers, strange to say.

If I am vague, it's simply because I'd rather not relive incidents in all their gory detail and besides, this is not my blog and I'm a little bit reticent in you knowing all my personal stuff. As I said, you've made several comments previously (all completely wide off the mark) - so I'm sure you'll understand.

Regards and see you tomorrow.

old hippy

.jacksparrow. · 06-06-2013 10:11PM

Brilliant, big man showing off gets owned, little scummy skanger.

Arcsin · 06-06-2013 10:29PM

old hippy wrote: »

I don't do bluffs, believe it or not. I have been assaulted on the streets of London and Dublin, by both members of the public and police officers (on peaceful demos and protest marches). I know what I'm talking about.

I also worked in a few newsrooms in Dublin and dealt with the Garda press office (so I'm not anti-police, if that's your angle) every morning and the litany of violence was not pleasing. Some of that included violence carried out by ex army and bouncers, strange to say.

If I am vague, it's simply because I'd rather not relive incidents in all their gory detail and besides, this is not my blog and I'm a little bit reticent in you knowing all my personal stuff. As I said, you've made several comments previously (all completely wide off the mark) - so I'm sure you'll understand.

Regards and see you tomorrow.

old hippy

So despite all that experience you couldn't recognise that the Garda had sufficient reason to draw her baton, used it correctly and applied enough force to defend herself and no more?

Instead you cried police brutality. Now I know you are bluffing.

Goodnight Walter.

WellThen? · 06-06-2013 10:42PM

endacl wrote: »

Funny vid OP. Just for the sake of clarity though, which bit was the 'awkward' bit, as per your title? I think I may have it confused with the 'funny' bit.

I was referring to the moment when she is pulling on his limp arm with no response realizing she has knocked him out. I found that funny.

To clarify i think any young man "skanger" or not attacking any person like that , woman or not deserves to get a good smack back.

Also scarlet for him getting owned by a woman.

JD DABA · 06-06-2013 11:00PM

laoch na mona wrote: »

In training yesterday I dominated a 85 kg lad

OoOOh zesus .... zesus chrys

senordingdong · 06-06-2013 11:39PM

old hippy wrote: »

Thinly veiled sterilise the working class thread.

I've no problem with the working class.

It's the class that don't work who I have a problem with.

awec · 07-06-2013 01:36AM

The Gardaí are not there to be punching bags. They do a dangerous enough jobs and should be allowed to defend themselves.

He thought he was acting the big man in front of his mates, he attacked a woman and she knocked him out. Kudos to her. I have no doubt that the outcome of that little skirmish made the rest of the crowd less likely to get involved.

I see no evidence of brutality there, just good police work. Lowlifes like that should fear the Gardaí, but because of the way their hands are tied this days and they dare not do anything lest be accused of brutality these sorts have little respect for the law and those who enforce it.

Your man should chalk it up as a life lesson - don't be a dick and you won't be knocked out by a bangharda.

darced · 07-06-2013 03:29AM

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end of the road · 07-06-2013 04:08AM

awec wrote: »

The Gardaí are not there to be punching bags. They do a dangerous enough jobs and should be allowed to defend themselves.

when i'm allowed to defend myself then they can, until then, no

awec wrote: »

He thought he was acting the big man in front of his mates, he attacked a woman and she knocked him out. Kudos to her.

not at all, she's probably one of them ladettes

awec wrote: »

I have no doubt that the outcome of that little skirmish made the rest of the crowd less likely to get involved.

doubtful, had they done so the outcome would have been different for her even after knocking the scanger out

awec wrote: »

I see no evidence of brutality there

severe brutality which should be punished by an indefinite jail term.

awec wrote: »

just good police work.

shabby police work by someone who can't control themselves, she has anger issues and needs to be thrown out of the force, just as much vermin as the teenage scanger.

awec wrote: »

Lowlifes like that should fear the Gardaí

no

awec wrote: »

because of the way their hands are tied this days and they dare not do anything lest be accused of brutality

thats the way it has to be.

awec wrote: »

these sorts have little respect for the law and those who enforce it.

nothing can be done to change that if their the type to be like that.

MickFleetwood · 07-06-2013 04:39AM

old hippy wrote: »

I'm such a bleeding heart the dry cleaning bills are horrendous.

Seriously, I don't condone violence, be it carried out by members of the public or the authorities. If that makes me the "dregs of society" and a "left wing tit" - so be it.

It doesn't make you the dregs of society, but you are however incredibly wrong and have a ridiculous point of view about the whole thing. Labeling the actions in the video as police brutality is utter stupidity, sorry. At what point did he/she use excessive force? Is defending yourself whilst under threat now "brutality?"

Would you prefer if she allowed that twat to assault her?

So, you don't condone violence. That's well and fine, but you also seem to think that self-defense shouldn't be carried out in an appropriate situation. Such as when somebody is physically attacking you.

Killer Wench · 07-06-2013 05:53AM

I don't consider that police brutality. I've seen police brutality including the use of a taser on a pregnant woman.

Imagine being surrounded by a group of hot-headed teenagers who are are intent on causing trouble. The police were lucky that the others didn't turn on them and jump into the fray. I imagine that was why they acted so swiftly because it could have easily been two against all of those people. Backed into a corner, they had to come out swinging.

suicide_circus · 07-06-2013 06:22AM

senordingdong wrote: »

I've no problem with the working class.

It's the class that WON'T work who I have a problem with.

fyp !

laoch na mona · 07-06-2013 08:35AM

senordingdong wrote: »

It's the class that don't work who I have a problem with.

I know fecking free loading students living of daddy's money

sbsquarepants · 07-06-2013 08:39AM

Does anyone know where this happened?

super_furry · 07-06-2013 08:40AM

What the hell was that filmed on? A turnip?

gallag · 07-06-2013 08:49AM

Haven't read the whole thread, have the usual pc liberals and anti establishment people been shouting about how this fine piece of police work was wrong yet?

Noxin · 07-06-2013 08:50AM

Dear god the mouth on yer one...

yuuuur deead! Ye baastards. Yuuuuuuur fuppin deeaaaaad!

I'm embarrassed to be of the same nationality as some of these people.

First lad goes down like a right sack of potatoes though. Fair play to the guards.

laoch na mona · 07-06-2013 08:52AM

awec wrote: »

Lowlifes like that should fear the Gardaí, .

sorry for going a bit of topic here but i felt I had to

no one should fear a police force they should respect it. For years (and still a bit to this day) working class people feared the Garda because it was okay back in the day for Gardaí to hit you a few belts but it was always the working class children who Gardaí send to be tougher with. While I know this is an anecdotal assumption it is a persistent feeling among the working class that the Gardaí don't treat them as well as middle and upper class.

(it could be a result of how society craps on those at the bottom that created this feeling and not Gardaí treatment on its own)

back on topic lad got what he deserved

Jonny7 · 07-06-2013 09:01AM

end of the road wrote: »

shabby police work by someone who can't control themselves, she has anger issues and needs to be thrown out of the force, just as much vermin as the teenage scanger.

She defended herself from being attacked (which she has a right to) put the attacker down, and kept the crowd at bay.

Good job in a tough situation.

The awkward moment when you punch a scumbag and he doesn't get back up

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