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Gardaí handle difficult situation

  • 01-06-2013 05:50PM
    #1
    cusackd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭


    Whats you thoughts on this, Gardaí arrest teenager after Portmarnock incident while being called scumbags from the crowd.



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  • #2
    BlimpGaz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭BlimpGaz


    The only difficult situation is when he gets dubbed a "racist" for simply sorting out dickheadery.


  • #3
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    What are your thoughts OP?

    Should a Garda's decision to arrest someone be based on the opinons of those in the vicinity? I don't think so.


  • #4
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    BlimpGaz wrote: »
    The only difficult situation is when he gets dubbed a "racist" for simply sorting out dickheadery.

    I don't see why it would be considered a difficult situation, he didn't do anything wrong.


  • #5
    gifted
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,053 ✭✭✭gifted


    fair play to the guards...must be hard to keep your temper under control with all that ****e being shouted at you..If it was me I'd have released the Alsatians on the feckers..:)


  • #6
    Cody Pomeray
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    0:53 and the next few seconds look dodgy.


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  • #7
    Prodigious
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    Bit excessive with the baton, IMO.


  • #8
    Problem123456
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Problem123456


    Fair play to the guards.


  • #9
    Local-womanizer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    Cody Pomeray wrote: »
    0:53 and the next few seconds look dodgy.


    Dodgy how?


  • #10
    Prodigious
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    Local-womanizer wrote: »
    Dodgy how?

    He's baiting him with the baton even though he wasn't resisting.


  • #11
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Video is ver poor, however, did it really need 3 garda to use the ASP to control that tennager. I have not problem with force being used when needed, was it need there?


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  • #12
    Ideo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭Ideo


    Should have locked them all up to be fair


  • #13
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    I say job well done

    But the lot of them at Portmarnock should have been arrested..obviously that's not possible though.


  • #14
    jamaamaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭jamaamaj


    Get away, Leave the area.


  • #15
    yara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭yara


    these kids could be starting a revolution but instead do this for craic??


  • #16
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,236 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    They should have arrested that fella shouting in the backround as well.


  • #17
    Problem123456
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Problem123456


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Video is ver poor, however, did it really need 3 garda to use the ASP to control that tennager. I have not problem with force being used when needed, was it need there?
    Of course what do you want them to use pillows?


  • #18
    yara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭yara


    Prodigious wrote: »
    He's baiting him with the baton even though he wasn't resisting.

    he wasn't resisting because he was getting beat with the batons


  • #19
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    German shepherds and Africans............. have we learned nothing from George Foreman and the rumble in the jungle.


  • #20
    Max Power1
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    Problem123456 wrote: »
    Fair play to the guards.

    yup +1 nothing wrong there.

    Bunch of scumbags tackled correctly.

    I'm usually the first to criticize AGS but here they took the correct COA in the face of abuse and criticism.


  • #21
    Prodigious
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    Even though your man was a prick in the first place, the guards were totally OTT with the arrest.
    Even though it was total yobs calling them scumbags, they weren't wrong.
    This would have been appropriate:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj275JIZh7I


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  • #22
    Cody Pomeray
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    Local-womanizer wrote: »
    Dodgy how?
    The use of the baton when the young man has been apprehended by another officer on the ground; I wonder if it was necessary.


  • #23
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Prodigious wrote: »
    Bit excessive with the baton, IMO.

    Excessive one strike to the leg standard (SOPs)

    His mates were lucky though i would have let the dog loose
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  • #24
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Prodigious wrote: »
    Even though your man was a prick in the first place, the guards were totally OTT with the arrest.

    How exactly?


  • #25
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Gatling wrote: »
    Excessive one strike to the leg standard (SOPs)

    His mates were lucky though in would have let the dog loose

    No suprise there with you.


  • #26
    Local-womanizer
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    Prodigious wrote: »
    He's baiting him with the baton even though he wasn't resisting.

    You can't see if he is resisting or not in the video. I

    Resisting is as simple as not presenting your arms so you can be cuffed, or he could have been kicking out. He also ran away from the cops, resisting arrest there.

    Either way the Gardai are not going to take the chance he may have a weapon on him. A slap of a baton and you will soon comply.


  • #27
    NuckingFacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    gifted wrote: »
    fair play to the guards...must be hard to keep your temper under control with all that ****e being shouted at you..If it was me I'd have released the Alsatians on the feckers..:)
    Hmmm...if you get arrested and then battered with a baton, you might change your tune.. No problem with people getting arrested, but they(Gardai) do tend to get heavy pretty fast, even when no real threat is presented - quite happy to start swinging.

    And no, never been arrested, never been batoned - but I've seen plenty of people get arrested and battoned and it's not too pretty.

    Not dissing the Gards, they have a job to do and other Police forces are no different or perhaps far worse, but they do get "hittey" very quick, though not so quick when it comes to err, hardier "minorities" - they tend to kid glove those. They're quite "choosey" who they clatter and students and hippie protesters seem to be the target of choice. That and teenagers..


  • #28
    Odysseus
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    Problem123456 wrote: »
    Of course what do you want them to use pillows?

    No I want to use the minimum of force which is what they are supposed to. I not sure if three adults all needed to use ASPs to restrain that guy.

    As I siad the quality is poor, but as they are trained in control and restrain practices I am not really sure if it need that level of force.

    I acknowledge that it is not always possible to strictly apply the minimum of force required to control someone, but that is the way they are required to work. Hence, I have a question about excessive force here, not the use of force, excessive use of it.


  • #29
    BlimpGaz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭BlimpGaz


    Cody Pomeray wrote: »
    The use of the baton when the young man has been apprehended by another officer on the ground; I wonder if it was necessary.

    If it was night time, he could claim the young black man was transparent, and he was simply attempting to kill a bug on the ground. But unfortunately in reality it was a bright sunny day, and he was just pissed off about having to work his menial job during it.


  • #30
    yara
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭yara


    Problem123456 wrote: »
    Of course what do you want them to use pillows?

    feathers even?


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  • #31
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Definitely a great perk of being a Garda to be able to take a baton to some of the people in that video.

    I might switch careers.


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