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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭game4it70


    I'd imagine all the reviews have been done by now and just waiting on the NDAs to be up.

    I hope there not to pricey as i'd like to get an i5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Thinking of getting one myself. I'm due an upgrade.
    Now mATX or mini-ITX?

    I'm thinking I'll go mATX since it's just handy to have those extra slots just in case. I'll probably never use them though and since I've been moving everything to a network, I don't really need that many hard drives either. Hmmmmmm..............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Sounds like you're about to run into exactly the same dilemma that I've had for the past while if you need a sound card. If you don't, I'd go ITX. If you're at all likely to use SLI/CF in the near future, than mATX.

    Former: NCase M1, Prodigy, Node 304, FT-03 Mini.
    Latter: 350D, Bigger Prodigy (Computex thingie), FT-03.

    Those are the best of what I've found. Most with good water cooling support too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Nah, don't really need a sound card. To be honest, I wouldn't appreciate the difference in quality at all. I'm not someone for cranking up the volume - I'm fine with nearly anything so long as it's not speakers built into a monitor! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Then I can't really think of anything else you'd need... Most of the Z87 boards are coming with Intel NICs, so you wouldn't need a network card, don't use a sound card, wouldn't be using a RAID card if your stuff is on the network...

    FT-03 Mini gets my vote then. Gorgeous case. I actually considered building a second computer around it, just because I wanted to have a silver one. :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo


    I had the same dilemma a while ago, have an essence stx and love the thing so it was matx for me! Currently have all my stuff crammed into an ft03. Cable management is a bit of a pain, especially with 3 hdds and an ssd but I managed.

    Was looking at the mini for a mates build, but the price and lack of psu is a real pain tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Yeah, I kind of like the the FT-03 Mini but I dunno... I don't think it's for me. It seems more like something I'd have if I had a glass desk in a spacious room with clean, blank, white walls. With wireless cables everything so as not to ruin its figure with cables hanging out everywhere.

    I might do a build with it for someone I know, but I think I'd end up with something more shuttle shaped. I had my heart set on a Lian Li PC-Q08B back in the day, but that was about two years ago and it doesn't really grab me as much anymore. Maybe the prodigy, although that's pretty much mATX size!
    At least there's actually options now in comparison to what was available a few years ago - motherboards as well as cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Have you looked at the M1? It's sort of like Lian-Li's shuttle cases, but more like if Fractal got their hands on one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo


    The Sugo sg05 is about the smallest mitx case that you can fit some decent hardware into. But I would lean more towards the cooler master elite 120. A bit bigger but has far more options and can use an atx psu, dirt cheap aswell. The node 304 looks pretty nice aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Have you looked at the M1? It's sort of like Lian-Li's shuttle cases, but more like if Fractal got their hands on one.

    Is that even in production? thought they raised enough for a small prototype release.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Yeah, I looked all the ones you suggested. The M1 is definitely a front runner for me. No waste of space there.

    I suppose I'd still like a case that has a proper external DVD drive. I know, I know, who uses DVDs these days,... but every so often, I tend to rummage out an old game or something.
    Now, the FT-103 mini and the M1 both have slot drives. I kind of like the light-scribe feature of my current DVD drive, but in fairness I burn DVDs so seldom any more except to give friends a few bits of stuff, that it's not something I really need. Plus I still need that new printer soon, so I could get one of those ones that print directly onto the discs if I wanted it. Maybe a slot drive would do me. I don't need any more external devices anyway.

    Yeah, the Coolermaster Elite 120 is pretty damn cheap in comparison to the others. Kind of reminds me of the Sugo SG07 that I was also considering last time around too.
    http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=261&area=en
    I wonder do they make them from cardboard to keep the cost down. Well it's not that cheap when you compare it to cheap ATX cases, but relatively speaking, it's just a fraction of the other itx cases. I look at some reviews to see if there's any disadvantages with it. Some people have said it's fugly - okay, not as glamorous as the high ends, but tbh, it's functional enough at first looks.

    Edit: Yikes, cooling results are not so good with the Elite. I'm guessing this is the trade off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    Im looking at a small HTPC setup, considering one of these

    lian_li_pc_q11.jpg

    Or this

    Lian-Li-Announces-the-MiniQ-PC-Q02-and-PC-Q03-Cases-2.jpg

    Graphics cards is probably not essential, though you can fit one into the top case handy enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    @Burgo, the M1 isn't in production yet, though the campaign is due to start around late June (I think) shipping around August or early September. I'm reasonably sure I won't be building in one due to funds (having to buy pretty much all new parts and all that) but I'll probably still order one, just because it's such an awesome little case.

    That Lian-Li case is very nice as well. The only thing that puts me off is the lack of WC support. Looks like it would be a really nice air cooler though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nolars


    So im an amd noob is a AMD FX-8350 better then an i5 in terms of playing games and recording with fraps for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    Serephucus wrote: »
    Are you the first Boardsie to run quad SLI then? :P

    maybe :p

    I really shouldnt have, its never a good idea to invest in quad SLI, though the benchmarks for 690SLI is pretty decent (~17% fps improvement on BF3 and up to ~50% better fps for AvP/Just Cause2/Batman AC/Dirt3 @5760x1080 :eek: )

    but when the phone randomly rings and a guy wants to sell you a new GTX 690 for very little money for a quick sell you dont hang up ;)
    Headshot wrote: »
    Damn you anyway

    im gonna tear down a few of my rigs to build a 3570K/Z77 Extreme6/GTX 690SLI/32gb RAM/SSD/5760*1080p rig for epeen'zez but mostly to see what BF3 looks like on it, and if i want surround :D
    Serephucus wrote: »
    Very high, most likely.

    In fact, it's as likely as seeing a flurry of Ivy boards on Adverts on Tuesday. :P

    im looking for an mATX one myself :P

    btw, where is the best place to get a 350D in europe? HWVS doesnt stock it, neither do anywhere ive looked??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,727 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I got to get to know these dodgy fella's that ring tea bag and sells him 690s

    32GB ram eh, you just dont like seeing empty slots do you lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    btw, where is the best place to get a 350D in europe? HWVS doesnt stock it, neither do anywhere ive looked??

    You didn't look very hard. :P Dabs and Overclockers both stock it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Nolars wrote: »
    So im an amd noob is a AMD FX-8350 better then an i5 in terms of playing games and recording with fraps for example.

    It depends on the game but it can do yes. The extra thread power helps. The 8320 is better value imo though. It will leave you with enough money to get a Thermalright macho and overclock to near 5ghz.

    I'm really tempted to sell my case and board and go for a 350d now. Anyone interested in a practically new and perfect condition Thermaltake chaser mk1 and an Asrock z77 pro 4?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    BloodBath wrote: »
    It depends on the game but it can do yes. The extra thread power helps. The 8320 is better value imo though. It will leave you with enough money to get a Thermalright macho and overclock to near 5ghz.

    I'm really tempted to sell my case and board and go for a 350d now. Anyone interested in a practically new and perfect condition Thermaltake chaser mk1 and an Asrock z77 pro 4?

    I might be interested in that case!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Cool. Thinking about it at the moment I'm running 4 drives, 1 ssd and 3 hdd's. The 350d only has room for 2 ssd's and 2 hdd's and I'm looking at adding another ssd and hdd so it may not be ideal.

    I'll let you know anyway. The chaser is a great case. I'm just being greedy :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Cool. Thinking about it at the moment I'm running 4 drives, 1 ssd and 3 hdd's. The 350d only has room for 2 ssd's and 2 hdd's and I'm looking at adding another ssd and hdd so it may not be ideal.

    I'll let you know anyway. The chaser is a great case. I'm just being greedy :)
    Cool. I won't be able to pay for a few weeks, though. That's my purchase timeframe :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    Aaaaand I'm considering an FT-03 Mini again!

    I honestly didn't think a 60mm thick 140 rad would fit in there, but:

    http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1039919815&postcount=1047

    That's basically exactly what I'd be doing were I to get one. Anyone have any interest in a 600T and Z77 Extreme4? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    I'd love to but couldn't justify the price right now! So tempting, though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    That's a seriously tight fit. Some knuckle bruising build by the look of it.

    I think the 600t is better looking though :)


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Lads help me decide here... new Haswell build or turn to the dark side and buy a gaming laptop. I do travel a good bit but a new haswell build (and perhaps a shiny new GTX 770) is seriously tempting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    What sort of travelling do you do, and what sort of power / budget are we talking about here? I'll be picking up a gaming laptop myself over the Summer for college, so I've been having similar thoughts as to where to allocate money, etc.

    @Bloodbath: Blasphemy! The 600T is very nice-looking, no question, but c'mon, the FT03 is in a class of its own. :P (And yeah, it is a tight fit. When I first saw that I was thinking "Oh my god that's... I'm going to smash it to bits out of rage if I try build in there")


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    I travel from Dub to the midlands about 2 weekends a month perhaps, and I'll be out of the country maybe a month of the year to visit the wife's relatives. Budget would be high enough on the laptop, I could probably go 1800+ but I'd rather not of course :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    If you don't need to use it for the actual journey and you're not using public transport then maybe a nice matx or mitx build would make transporting it a bit easier.

    A nice bitfenix prodigy build maybe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,181 ✭✭✭Serephucus


    I'd certainly wait for all the Haswell crap to launch before making a decision, but with that situation you could go either way, really. Nice desktop + nice laptop (high-end multimedia type, GTX 650/660M-type) or average desktop with a higher end laptop. As you put more money into the laptop though, you'll get less value out of it.

    Since (by the rumours I'm hearing) most of the Haswell stuff is basically just going to be refreshes, I can probably point you to Ivy laptops, and you just pick up the Haswell version, as it were. What are you looking for? Screen, sound, speed?


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