McQuaid nominated unanimously by Switzerland (read warning post #78)

CramCycle · 27-05-2013 05:18PM

buffalo wrote: »

Don't forget the Orwell EGM tonight - 7.30pm in the Milltown Institute.

Don't forget to remind them that the EGM is important as ever, despite what Pat and the media would have you believe.

morana · 27-05-2013 06:26PM

CramCycle wrote: »

Don't forget to remind them that the EGM is important as ever, despite what Pat and the media would have you believe.

Yes it is as important as ever.

I must apologise to Orwell members that we didnt have a document for them in advance of the meeting. We started compiling reasons not to vote and it was approx 40 a4 pages! We have it down to 28 but need to refine further.

Best of luck with it tonight

buffalo · 27-05-2013 06:28PM

morana wrote: »

Yes it is as important as ever.

I must apologise to Orwell members that we didnt have a document for them in advance of the meeting. We started compiling reasons not to vote and it was approx 40 a4 pages! We have it down to 28 but need to refine further.

Best of luck with it tonight

Reasons not to vote, or reasons not to vote in favour?

If you email it to me, I can read out some highlights.

morana · 27-05-2013 06:49PM

buffalo wrote: »

Reasons not to vote, or reasons not to vote in favour?

If you email it to me, I can read out some highlights.

yeah well spotted. Always vote!

buffalo · 28-05-2013 09:15AM

There was a majority vote at the Orwell EGM against in the ratio 6:1, and all our delegates will be voting against at the CI EGM. I'm proud that the committee decided to consult the members on this one, and the members responded.

There was a smaller turn-out than I expected. ~100 people emailed the club secretary calling for the EGM, two-thirds of whom didn't show up when it counted. Some of those 100 weren't Orwell members apparently, and obviously there are those with valid excuses - I nearly didn't go myself because an old friend from the States was in town for one night, but I got stood up.

But it seems there's a whole host of people who do actually fall into the 'keyboard warrior' category.

I wonder if most of those were put off by the McQuaid's Swiss role, and have 'given up' to an extent. He'll get in one way or another, sure what's the point of voting? To which I say:
a) it might matter in the end, so make sure you make your voice heard,
b) and even if it doesn't matter, it sends a message about what CI stands for.

joker77 · 28-05-2013 09:26AM

It was a pretty disappointing turnout. But then again - the turnout hasn't been much higher for the club AGM the last couple of years, so maybe it was to be expected.

The main thing is that there are 6 delegates from Orwell with a vote each going to the Cycling Ireland EGM on the 15th June, and have a democratic mandate from the club's members to vote against nominating Pat McQuaid for a 3rd term.

Do we fall into the category of a 'small group of people' who have 'politicised' the nomination?

CramCycle · 28-05-2013 09:33AM

buffalo wrote: »

I wonder if most of those were put off by the McQuaid's Swiss role, and have 'given up' to an extent. He'll get in one way or another, sure what's the point of fighting? To which I say, it
a) might matter in the end, so make sure you make your voice heard,
b) and even if it doesn't matter, it sends a message about what CI stands for.

Even if the swiss thing were done and dusted (which I don't think it is), it is important that it is put to rest as a matter of record. We either support him or we don't. Personally, I don't, but if the membership who care enough to turn up and vote, give him a majority, then I would be happy with that.

Beasty · 28-05-2013 10:01AM

Just to add to Cram's comments - the "Swiss thing" is definitely not done and dusted. The CI EGM remains crucial in determining whether McQuaid will get a momination, and hence it's important for clubs to consult their membership, as Orwell have done, to select delegates and determine how those delegates will vote

I am already hearing of clubs that have decided which way to vote without asking their members. If your club has not asked you and you have a view on the matter, let them know your feelings - your committee may not even know you care if you don't.

bazermc · 29-05-2013 12:30PM

More rubbish from McQuaid today;

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/cycling-made-mistakes-armstrong-affair-says-uci-head-100958862.html

GlennaMaddy · 29-05-2013 12:41PM

bazermc wrote: »

More rubbish from McQuaid today;

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/cycling-made-mistakes-armstrong-affair-says-uci-head-100958862.html

"There is a change in the peloton. Every little thing I am bringing in is making a difference."
Too little too late Pat, you've let us down badly

RobFowl · 29-05-2013 02:29PM

GlennaMaddy wrote: »

"There is a change in the peloton. Every little thing I am bringing in is making a difference."
Too little too late Pat, you've let us down badly

"No, because I firmly believe I am making a difference. I want to eradicate doping. I want to see this thing through. I want to finish what I started."
Pat McQuaid

"At every turn the UCI attempted to obstruct our efforts to reveal the truth," Travis Tygart CEO of USADA, regarding the LA investigation

One of those two is sorely mistaken.........

Inquitus · 29-05-2013 02:33PM

RobFowl wrote: »

"No, because I firmly believe I am making a difference. I want to eradicate doping. I want to see this thing through. I want to finish what I started."
Pat McQuaid

"At every turn the UCI attempted to obstruct our efforts to reveal the truth," Travis Tygart CEO of USADA, regarding the LA investigation

One of those two is sorely mistaken.........

Can you really trust a man who's first name is Travis?

ednwireland · 29-05-2013 02:45PM

Inquitus wrote: »

Can you really trust a man who's first name is Travis?

i'm convinced ! vote for pat

Bunnyhopper · 29-05-2013 02:48PM

Inquitus wrote: »

Can you really trust a man who's first name is Travis?

Are you talkin' to him?

Beasty · 29-05-2013 10:51PM

The latest twist

From Velonation

Although the federation announced on May 16th that the board had unanimously decided to back McQuaid, VeloNation understands that this may not actually be the case.

A view shared by certain others;)

So, as already alluded to, it looks like Switzerland is not a "done deal"

I am sure there will be more twists yet, but this just re-emphasises the critical importance of the CI EGM

Beasty · 01-06-2013 09:21AM

Laios CC vote 16-0 against McQuaid's nomination

Pretty good "turnout" in their online poll - total potential voters - 29

thebionicdude · 01-06-2013 12:05PM

This came out this morning:

The Pat McQuaid File: Why Cycling Ireland should reject his nomination for UCI President.

http://bit.ly/McQuaidFile

There are lots of No arguments in it. It should help to inform the debate.

RobFowl · 01-06-2013 02:52PM

A fine piece of work ;-) seriously a lot of work went into this and the evidence and arguments are compelling

viswijf · 01-06-2013 07:53PM

I just joined boards to say well done to all who involved into producing this. Anyone of the issues it raises would be enough to make his position untenable that he has a chance of being re-elected beggars belief

. He is a throwback to the pre-information age time when committies were a law unto themselves and could bully and stymie all opposition or dissent. Does he actually realise how much people know about this? Has the man no moral compass?

MrCreosote · 02-06-2013 09:06AM

thebionicdude wrote: »

This came out this morning:

The Pat McQuaid File: Why Cycling Ireland should reject his nomination for UCI President.

http://bit.ly/McQuaidFile

There are lots of No arguments in it. It should help to inform the debate.

RobFowl wrote: »

A fine piece of work ;-) seriously a lot of work went into this and the evidence and arguments are compelling

I would just like to thank whoever put the bit in about triathlon saving cycling!

Completely true, but sadly overlooked by many cycling fans. Nothing better than going for an aul' bike with a swim and run on either side of it.

ashleey · 02-06-2013 09:18AM

MrCreosote wrote: »

I would just like to thank whoever put the bit in about triathlon saving cycling!

Completely true, but sadly overlooked by many cycling fans. Nothing better than going for an aul' bike with a swim and run on either side of it.

Heretic

Inquitus · 02-06-2013 09:22AM

MrCreosote wrote: »

I would just like to thank whoever put the bit in about triathlon saving cycling!

Completely true, but sadly overlooked by many cycling fans. Nothing better than going for an aul' bike with a swim and run on either side of it.

He's a witch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

Dermot Illogical · 02-06-2013 09:50AM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Nothing better than going for an aul' bike with a swim and run on either side of it.

Splitter!

Joxer_S · 03-06-2013 03:48PM

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-cookson-to-run-for-uci-presidency

This is a very positive development, I was getting the impression that nobody was willing to challenge McQuaid given the perceived strength of support for him, particularly in developing countries (from a cycling perspective).

ratracer · 03-06-2013 09:06PM

Any inside scoop from Switzerland yet? Sticky bottle posting little teasers on their Facebook page.

Vino Veritas · 03-06-2013 11:27PM

has anyone thought of the proposed Corporate alternative to McQuaid - or are we all sheep chasing Pat , get ready to pay for your cycling..

pprendeville · 04-06-2013 12:42AM

Very concisely written report. Well done. Can't see how anyone can argue against it. How many presidential positions does PMc hold?

That GCP thing is a bit of a joke alright. <snip> . Report hits nail on head - for globalisation of sport it needs globally recognised sponsors but at the moment they don't want the negative association with cycling. So this EGM will be NB.

thebionicdude · 04-06-2013 01:00AM

pprendeville wrote: »

How many presidential positions does PMc hold?

Three. He is President of the UCI. Under auspices of the UCI he is President of Global Cycling Promotions and Cycling Anti-Doping Foundation.

GCP is the UCI's vehicle to promote professional cycling globally for profit. CADF runs the drug-testing. Some people wonder whether one doesn't conflict with the other.

GCP's focus on China arose out of contacts Verbruggen and McQuaid attained from the Beijing Olympics. The Olympics were in 2008 and GCP was created in 2009. The Tour of Beijing its first race in 2011.

thebionicdude · 04-06-2013 01:12AM

An Update on Swiss situation was tagged on at the end of the following SB article by Shane Stokes:
http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/game-on-british-cyclings-brian-cookson-to-challenge-pat-mcquaid-for-uci-presidency/

To quote:
"On May 16th that federation announced that it would back him. Stickybottle understands that some board members were not happy with that announcement, feeling that it did not actually reflect what was agreed at the time.

They called for another board meeting, satisfying the requirement that a minimum of three members are needed to bring such an action about. That meeting was due to be held this evening but was ultimately cancelled after those three members were told that others would not attend. A minimum of five votes would have been needed to overturn what was announced on May 16th and, with the numbers not adding up, the meeting did not proceed.

It is unclear whether those concerned members will take any further action, but stickybottle understands that Australian businessman Jamie Fuller of the Change Cycling Now pressure group is exploring legal avenues to challenge Swiss Cycling’s apparent endorsement of McQuaid.

Whether or not that action takes place, the news that Cookson is now stepping forward means that McQuaid has a real battle ahead."

What to make of that? In the least it seems certain that the Board of Swiss Cycling is divided on how to process McQuaid's request for nomination.

Also, Jaimie Fuller of SKINS/Change Cycling Now wishes to legally challenge Swiss endorsement of McQuaid.
@jaimiefuller:
plse RT
wanted: member swiss cycle to front legal challenge to swiss endorse of pat. SKINS will fund & do all work. jaimie.fuller@skins.net

More drama to come it seems! The EGM remains crucial.

Junior · 04-06-2013 10:33AM

Brian Cookson from the UK has stepped forward as another candidate.. http://www.briancookson.org/en/

McQuaid nominated unanimously by Switzerland (read warning post #78)

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