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Season 3: Episode 8 * Have NOT read the books*MOD NOTE POST #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    krudler wrote: »
    And is one of the few people who won't take sh1t from Joffrey, and outsmarts him at every turn and tantrum.
    Tywin comes from a place of power. He knows that Joffery fears him. Along with everyone else. He also knows that as long as he doesn't provoke the "King" publicly, then Joffery will continue to be subservient to him in private.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,769 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I think the scene with Stannis and Davos was interesting this week, it's like he was admiting that he knows how cold he can be and that he needs Davos to be his moral compass of sorts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭K_user


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I think the scene with Stannis and Davos was interesting this week, it's like he was admiting that he knows how cold he can be and that he needs Davos to be his moral compass of sorts.

    I would agree. Davos is a "good" man and very loyal to Stannis. So he must see something that we, the viewers, dont.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    K_user wrote: »
    I would agree. Davos is a "good" man and very loyal to Stannis. So he must see something that we, the viewers, dont.

    I'd recommend the folklore videos on youtube from the DVD extras. There's one with Liam Cunningham narrating and explains the respect Davos has for Stannis when they meet during the siege of Dragonstone.

    Davos through his life of smuggling had never known justice, not until Stannis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I like Davos, he sees right through Melisandre and how she's manipulating Stannis, was funny seeing him delighted with himself finishing the sentence in the book.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Bacchus wrote: »
    Didn't she mention the Lord of Light leading her to him. When in doubt, the Lord of Light did it :)



    We (the non-book readers) do know what happened. Any blanks are fairly easy to fill in. The Greyjoy men betrayed Theon (we saw this) and handed him over to the Boltons (pretty much a dead cert that who has him given the banners we've seen). Now, either the Boltons or the Greyjoys ransacked Winterfell. I suspect it was the Boltons, initially searching for the Stark kids and then burning the place down in anger... or cos they're d*cks and that's what d*cks do. They'd be safe to blame the Greyjoys and Rob Stark would be none the wiser.

    If you are alluding to any further twists/shocks in the events at Winterfell due to having read the books, kindly stop posting in the non-book threads.



    Huge facepalm moment there. You left behinf the weapon you just found out kills the formidable White Walkers. I guess, panic took over at what he just saw and all the crows chasing them.

    I know everyone's paranoid about spoilers but I thought it was pretty clear by now I haven't read the books and that I was referring to the very-publicly stated fact that season is covering about half the third book. By this stage of the season it's easy to see we've had too much milling about and build-up for what I am to assume will be pay-off in season four.

    If the showrunners took in more of that assumed pay-off from the third book and removed some of the endless travelling of characters this would be a much more satisfying season as the moment-to-moment of the show remains almost completely entralling.

    If the show ran better covering most of third book and season four covering odds and ends from it and then a big chunk of the next book I'd have gladly sacrificed the symetry and space afforded to the third book being covered in halves by two season. What works for books doesn't always work for film and the shoe could do with manipulating the books timeline even more than (I assume) they already do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    If the Lord of Light is one type of say, magic then what is the White Walker's magic? I know that's phrased badly but you catch my drift.

    Most followers of the Lord of Light think he is the one true God because they have seen some magic at work, but what about the Walkers? Surely there is some magical elements there. Even the Warlocks had their own type of magic.

    Also in regards to the seemingly pointless storylines, however pointless they might seem now, I'm going to assume (by the book readers smugness :P ) that they all have quite an important consequence in future events, these seemingly pointless things have to happen for other, larger events to occur. Or so I am guessing/hoping!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,758 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Syferus wrote: »
    I know everyone's paranoid about spoilers but I thought it was pretty clear by now I haven't read the books and that I was referring to the very-publicly stated fact that season is covering about half the third book.

    Fair enough. I don't follow your posts, so when you wrote "Really starting to feel like they could have covered far more than half the third book in one season...." it seemed to me like you've read the books and therefore your subsequent comments seemed a bit "all knowing", as though something was going to be revealed about the sacking of Winterfell :)

    You right though, this season has been all build up so far. As long as the pay off is worth it (on all threads of the story), that's fine with me cause season 3 has been great to watch so far. I hope the pay off will be before season 4 comes around though mind you.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Just as a heads up, the Inside the Episode catch ups they do with Benioff & Weiss for every episode are very good, they give background and explain their thinking on the various character's motivations, and they are filmed for the non-reading viewers. You can get them all on youtube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Just as a heads up, the Inside the Episode catch ups they do with Benioff & Weiss for every episode are very good, they give background and explain their thinking on the various character's motivations, and they are filmed for the non-reading viewers. You can get them all on youtube.

    Is that youtube or a podcast?


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Youtube.

    Just don't read the comments underneath the videos :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    Youtube.

    Just don't read the comments underneath the videos :pac:

    Don't read any comments on any GoT related youtube videos actually, alot of arseholes out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Don't read any comments on any GoT related youtube videos actually, alot of arseholes out there.
    Don't read any Youtube comments full stop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Don't read any Youtube comments full stop!

    Or imdb.com, or reddit the day after an episode airs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    Look just to be really safe stay away from the internet in general and the library and all good bookshops for good measure.

    Oh and time-machines, you can't un-see things :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Don't read any Youtube comments full stop!

    For the night is dark and full of spoilers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    I can't be the only person that didn't think 'Release the Dragons'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    For the night ish dark and full of spoilersh.

    FYP;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Compare that with the Lannisers, where to Tywin family seems to mean everything
    I'd argue Tywin doesn't give a sh1t about his family but rather the prestige and legacy of House Lannister means everything to him.
    After all he's happy to marry off two of his children despite their obvious displeasure at the proposed unions.

    He's not omniscient either as he dismisses the threat Dany poses as just a curiosity in the East when she's far more dangerous than that. Even Joffrey sees that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭EuropeanSon


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    I'd argue Tywin doesn't give a sh1t about his family but rather the prestige and legacy of House Lannister means everything to him.
    After all he's happy to marry off two of his children despite their obvious displeasure at the proposed unions.

    He's not omniscient either as he dismisses the threat Dany poses as just a curiosity in the East when she's far more dangerous than that. Even Joffrey sees that.

    To be fair, Joffrey doesn't see anything. He hears rumours of dragons and gets terrified, it's not him being a wise farseeing sage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭EuropeanSon


    Oops, shouldn't be posting in here really. Point still stands, though.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    TheUsual wrote: »
    I can't be the only person that didn't think 'Release the Dragons'

    I can't be the only one who feels a trip to Scandinavia is overdue...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    I'd argue Tywin doesn't give a sh1t about his family but rather the prestige and legacy of House Lannister means everything to him.
    After all he's happy to marry off two of his children despite their obvious displeasure at the proposed unions.

    He's not omniscient either as he dismisses the threat Dany poses as just a curiosity in the East when she's far more dangerous than that. Even Joffrey sees that.
    I second that. I just watched the first and second season again and there's a scene where Tywin is talking to Jamie and he says that they will all die and the only thing that lives on is the family name and legacy. He will do anything to make sure that they become known and feared as a great dynasty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    They are known and feared as a great dynasty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Why is there no episode this week? Did I miss some big american holiday or something? didn't think there was anything this weekend


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    tvnutz wrote: »
    Why is there no episode this week? Did I miss some big american holiday or something? didn't think there was anything this weekend

    It's memorial day in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    It's memorial day in the US.

    Ugh...thought it would be something like that,boo-urns...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭keps


    Yeah last year the pivotal 9th episode in series 2 got lousy( the lowest of all the 10 episodes) ratings on memorial weekend - so it's been decided to shove it back a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    keps wrote: »
    Yeah last year the pivotal 9th episode in series 2 got lousy( the lowest of all the 10 episodes) ratings on memorial weekend - so it's been decided to shove it back a week.

    Even though it was the Blackwater episode, the thing the entire season had been building to, crazy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Rosy Posy


    Regarding the worthiest ruler of Westeros, I think that one of the biggest areas of tension in the series is between the old feudal order, consisting of the monarchy and a social hierarchy that is transmitted by birth right, and a new, democratic social order, elements of which can be seen in the Brothers without Banners and the Free Folk beyond the wall. I think that Danaeres embodies a marriage of these two areas, being a queen by birth but also by encouraging a greater level of social equality in her followers. The Dothraki are interesting too in that they choose their Kahl according to strength. I wonder if, with the imminent invasion of Danaeres from the south and Mance Rayder from the north that the Iron Throne might become less significant in the long run.


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