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Anyone else here disturbed by latest Garda revelations/actions?

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  • #32
    wil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    If i'd paid a fortune on this lovely new car, why would i want to ruin it with a tacky bolt on accessory?

    It's like buying prada and modifying it with tweed.
    The tacky bolt on accessory is usually the driver.

    If I was buying a "lovely new car", I'd expect it to have at least the basic specs that "lovely new cars" come with these days.

    And even if it was a lovely old car, think I'd pay the little extra for the non-tacky, but discrete version of the kit.
    My retrofit on to my anything but "lovely new" is invisible and cheaper than a fine.

    Of course if you are driving a vintage Ferrari, I'd consider this


  • #33
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    If a normal joe soap was in shatters position would the outcome have been the same.


  • #34
    bus_driver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 ✭bus_driver


    Specialun wrote: »
    If a normal joe soap was in shatters position would the outcome have been the same.


    hardly , how willing AGS are to act depends on two things

    who is complaining and who is being complained about

    the guards are highly political in how they carry out their duties ,always have been


  • #35
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Thats a problem in my opinion.A guard should not ge able to pick and choose who they enforce the law on.


  • #36
    bus_driver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 ✭bus_driver


    Specialun wrote: »
    Thats a problem in my opinion.A guard should not ge able to pick and choose who they enforce the law on.


    they do and are told to by their superiors

    anyone who has had a reasonable degree of interaction with AGS can tell you this

    pull exists in every aspect of irish society , if you know someone or are someone , the guards treat you differently


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  • #37
    Wacker The Attacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHR1tk5xvU


  • #38
    bus_driver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 ✭bus_driver


    two of my uncles were guards btw

    both now retired


  • #39
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    The shatter incident is gone from the news now anyways

    Can you imagine if the incident had been on gerry adams and the current posse were under pressure from SF

    I would bet the story wouldnt wittle away so fast


  • #40
    For Paws
    Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭For Paws


    The last week has been a 'slow news' week.

    Nothing much has happened here. (The goings on throughout the rest of the world don't count).

    Lazy journalists making up stuff about little enough.

    Today's Irish Independent has 'embattled Justice Minister' .. 'left to sweat'...'as the opposition scent blood'.

    Bollox. No truth, no facts, just the same rumour mongering.

    Have the Opposition nothing better to do than mouth pious innuendo at their rivals on the Govt benches ?

    Is anyone on this thread a serving Garda ?
    Does anyone on this thread know any serving Gardai ?

    Then ask them what they think about whether they exercise their power of discretion wisely.

    The rest is just speculation, and serves only to further alienate those members of AGS who do a dirty, dangerous & thankless job the best way they can.


  • #41
    SB2013
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Why was shatter not dragged to the nearest station to piss in a pot or have a doctor take blood when he twice failed to give a breath sample?

    Immunity to arrest
    Article 15

    13. The members of each House of the Oireachtas shall, except in case of treason as defined in this Constitution, felony or breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest in going to and returning from, and while within the precincts of, either House, and shall not, in respect of any utterance in either House, be amenable to any court or any authority other than the House itself.


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  • #42
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    bus_driver wrote: »
    where do you think the media get these stories from ( in the main ) ?

    paul Williams owes his entire career to loose tongued cops

    How does the Herald and other papers and journalists get loose tongued gardai who they call sources to provide stories for them. We saw a lot of stories from sources about the killers of Garda O'Donoghue. Why keep leaking these stories as it will only cause the killers to flee which is what happened. If the gardai had kept quiet the killers would have been arrested by now.

    As regards Shatter I remember him being very vocal in calling for Willie O'Dea to resign.


  • #43
    mb1725
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭mb1725


    I wonder if Mick Wallace knew that the Minister had the goods on him for this and maybe other matters. He did not seem one bit shocked or surprised when Shatter dropped the bombshell. You would have at least expected him to be highly indignant at the revelation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmem-yngKdY


  • #44
    bus_driver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 ✭bus_driver


    For Paws wrote: »
    The last week has been a 'slow news' week.

    Nothing much has happened here. (The goings on throughout the rest of the world don't count).

    Lazy journalists making up stuff about little enough.

    Today's Irish Independent has 'embattled Justice Minister' .. 'left to sweat'...'as the opposition scent blood'.

    Bollox. No truth, no facts, just the same rumour mongering.

    Have the Opposition nothing better to do than mouth pious innuendo at their rivals on the Govt benches ?

    Is anyone on this thread a serving Garda ?
    Does anyone on this thread know any serving Gardai ?

    Then ask them what they think about whether they exercise their power of discretion wisely.

    The rest is just speculation, and serves only to further alienate those members of AGS who do a dirty, dangerous & thankless job the best way they can.


    you,ve it all sussed out


  • #45
    bus_driver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 ✭bus_driver


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    How does the Herald and other papers and journalists get loose tongued gardai who they call sources to provide stories for them. We saw a lot of stories from sources about the killers of Garda O'Donoghue. Why keep leaking these stories as it will only cause the killers to flee which is what happened. If the gardai had kept quiet the killers would have been arrested by now.

    As regards Shatter I remember him being very vocal in calling for Willie O'Dea to resign.


    you hardly think the guards are going to name drop when it comes to the investigation into the murder of garda o Donoghue :rolleyes:

    as for the media getting info from the cops , sometimes the guards sell the info , sometimes they leak stories in order to slime someone they don't like as in the case with deputy uppity daly who dared to expose their penalty point quashing , in other instances , they might drop that delightfully vague line about how the person was known to the gardai , that could mean someone who was once done for drink driving

    the innocence of the members on this site never ceases to amaze me


  • #46
    yore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    bus_driver wrote: »
    the innocence of the members on this site never ceases to amaze me


    Wow. Never eh? After one day's membership and about 30 posts?

    :D


    I don't think anybody is wondering how the media get these stories. The questions are rhetorical


  • #47
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    bus_driver wrote: »
    you hardly think the guards are going to name drop when it comes to the investigation into the murder of garda o Donoghue :rolleyes:

    as for the media getting info from the cops , sometimes the guards sell the info , sometimes they leak stories in order to slime someone they don't like as in the case with deputy uppity daly who dared to expose their penalty point quashing , in other instances , they might drop that delightfully vague line about how the person was known to the gardai , that could mean someone who was once done for drink driving

    the innocence of the members on this site never ceases to amaze me

    My point was they leaked info that let the killers know that the gardai know who they are. I never suggested that they were going to name names.


  • #48
    CruelCoin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    wil wrote: »
    The tacky bolt on accessory is usually the driver.

    If I was buying a "lovely new car", I'd expect it to have at least the basic specs that "lovely new cars" come with these days.

    And even if it was a lovely old car, think I'd pay the little extra for the non-tacky, but discrete version of the kit.
    My retrofit on to my anything but "lovely new" is invisible and cheaper than a fine.

    Of course if you are driving a vintage Ferrari, I'd consider this

    wow, just wow.

    As bad as porchse pipes


  • #49
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Government : "We need Garda cutbacks and stations to close"

    Gardai : "So and so avoided points etc etc"

    It stinks!


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