Would you like have the right to own a handgun in Ireland?

garv123 · 19-05-2013 03:00PM

At least here now guns have to be stored in a safe, a lot of people dont even keep the keys in the same room or the safe in the bedroom so even if someone did break in now you would have to get keys from room A and get to the safe in room B so the chances of that happening when you notice an intruder is slim..

But if you were to be allowed keep one for self defence it would lead to people storing gun and loaded magazines in bedside lockers and places close by and not store them properly.. This is how kids manage to shoot themsevles/others in america.

Owning guns for self defence will lead to reckless storage and more accidents.

Peter The Pedo · 19-05-2013 03:33PM

The concept of a gun has always weirded me out, the fact its solely designed to maim or kill... for the most part. I think Ireland is safer without them...

My friend whipped out a taser he owns at a party the other week, and that freaked the **** out of me. The sound and intensity of the spark that came off it was unbelievable, ear piercing. The fact that thats made to immobilize people and is readily sold in the States also freaks me out.

Logical Fallacy · 19-05-2013 03:50PM

Hasmunch wrote: »

No way, if I could get a hand gun then that means every little scumbag on the street has easy access to get them too. The less everyday exposure to guns the better

Scumbags can already get guns pretty easily tbh.

BattleCorp · 19-05-2013 03:55PM

Peter The Pedo wrote: »

The concept of a gun has always weirded me out, the fact its solely designed to maim or kill... for the most part. I think Ireland is safer without them...

My friend whipped out a taser he owns at a party the other week, and that freaked the **** out of me. The sound and intensity of the spark that came off it was unbelievable, ear piercing. The fact that thats made to immobilize people and is readily sold in the States also freaks me out.

Not sure if your friend in in the US or here in Ireland but tasers are illegal here in Ireland as far as I know. I think it's classed as a firearm.

Galwayguy35 · 19-05-2013 03:57PM

Yes I would like to be able to own a handgun but I can live without it as I already have a legally held shotgun.

BattleCorp · 19-05-2013 04:01PM

Here in Ireland there should be no right to have any sort of a gun.

It should be a privilege only allowed to certain people who the Gardaí deem to have a valid reason for having the gun, be of good character and prove that they are responsible and know what they are doing with the gun. They should also take steps to ensure that these guns don't fall into the wrong hands when they are not being used.

Every nutter shouldn't have a right to have a gun, any type of gun.

SeanW · 19-05-2013 04:05PM

Gatling wrote: »

And that says exactly why firearms need to be strictly controlled

Explain? How is allowing law abiding citizens access to weapons to protect themselves, their family and their property a bad thing?

TEMPLAR KNIGHT wrote: »

Nope im currently living in Oakland California. And the wide availability of handguns for crimes makes the atmosphere terrible here that and that fact that someone's shot here nearly once a week tis awful joe!!

From what I understand of Oakland, gun laws are very strict there, guaranteeing that only lawbreakers can have guns.
I also read that in Oakland the police are so underfunded that if you are calling "just" to complain about a burglary, the police won't do anything.

So the laws are clearly not worth the paper they're printed on, yet you wonder why the place is a dump?

hooradiation wrote: »

Yes, people taking the law into their own hands, a fantastic idea.

*slow clap*

When the law is only theoretical (as it is in places) what is your suggestion?

Peter The Pedo · 19-05-2013 04:19PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Not sure if your friend in in the US or here in Ireland but tasers are illegal here in Ireland as far as I know. I think it's classed as a firearm.

Yes here in Ireland, and correction... it was a stun gun, not a taser with a firing cartridge.

juice1304 · 19-05-2013 04:40PM

Peter The Pedo wrote: »

The concept of a gun has always weirded me out, the fact its solely designed to maim or kill... for the most part. I think Ireland is safer without them...

My friend whipped out a taser he owns at a party the other week, and that freaked the **** out of me. The sound and intensity of the spark that came off it was unbelievable, ear piercing. The fact that thats made to immobilize people and is readily sold in the States also freaks me out.

There are already more than 250,000 legally held firearms in Ireland just as safe as it was when you thought there wasn't.
And your friend is in possession of a prohibited item totally illegal and if found with it will be in an awful lot of trouble.

Witcher · 19-05-2013 04:40PM

Peter The Pedo wrote: »

Yes here in Ireland, and correction... it was a stun gun, not a taser with a firing cartridge.

Still illegal.

Peter The Pedo · 19-05-2013 05:22PM

Blay wrote: »

Still illegal.

I never said it wasn't. Obviously it is very illegal, by how much it freaked me out. Some arc off it bhoy..

Peter The Pedo · 19-05-2013 05:32PM

juice1304 wrote: »

There are already more than 250,000 legally held firearms in Ireland just as safe as it was when you thought there wasn't.
And your friend is in possession of a prohibited item totally illegal and if found with it will be in an awful lot of trouble.

This I know, my father's cousin died there back in February due to a self inflicted upper body shot gun wound, was found out by the cattle shed by 2 of his workers. Seemed to be accident also, found it pretty shocking personally to hear a relative died as a result of a firearm here in Ireland.

aaakev · 19-05-2013 05:50PM

Peter The Pedo wrote: »

I never said it wasn't. Obviously it is very illegal, by how much it freaked me out. Some arc off it bhoy..

So because something freaks you out its illegal??

SeanW · 19-05-2013 05:59PM

hooradiation wrote: »

... I assume you mean with your penis as you furiously masturbate to this power fantasy?

Perhaps you would prefer the poster greet the burglar, show him where the electronics, car keys and money were?

No wonder there are parts of this country ruled by scum with people like you around.

Peter The Pedo · 19-05-2013 06:00PM

aaakev wrote: »

So because something freaks you out its illegal??

Yes, you pedantic freak. :rolleyes:

Karl Stein · 19-05-2013 10:18PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Farewell Chuck Stone

He hasn't gone away you know.

Sh1tbag OToole · 19-05-2013 10:27PM

Peter The Pedo wrote: »

Yes, you pedantic freak. :rolleyes:

Says the Pedo.

Anyways a gun would be useful for a sh1tbag like me, too many enemies I have floating about the place. You never know when one of them might decide to have a go at "putting that ould sh1tbag to rest for once and for all". One in the house, one in the car, one under the saddle of my bike preferably. That should cover it, I might hand it over to the bar tender when I head for a fun night out in the local just in case word gets around that the sh1tbag is in town and someone decides to take advantage of the situation.

You might say I shouldn't have made so many enemies but It's too late now. I wouldn't take it upon myself to go around shooting people because I'm not aggressive that way. Also its worth remembering that for your average Joe its not worth the trouble of getting a gun unless you want to spend the time and the bullets learning how to use the damn thing

Sh1tbag OToole · 19-05-2013 10:31PM

Cathal Cloch wrote: »

He hasn't gone away you know.

What was the point of that? You could have at leastleft the default avatar in place and amass a half decent post count while people speculate who you might be

Karl Stein · 19-05-2013 10:52PM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

What was the point of that? You could have at leastleft the default avatar in place and amass a half decent post count while people speculate who you might be

I don't think people really give a shit who I am tbh and I'd rather people who did know me from posting here can identify me.

sdanseo · 19-05-2013 10:54PM

Gatling wrote: »

You can't have a hand gun ,

You can have large calibre rifles

Semi auto shotguns / double barrels /pumps

And apparently in some cases the dreaded( AR 15) type guns

*starts thread about whether handguns should be legalised*

Gatling: Handgus aren't allowed.

Yes, we know, that's the point of the thread.

Witcher · 19-05-2013 11:04PM

sdeire wrote: »

*starts thread about whether handguns should be legalised*

Gatling: Handgus aren't allowed.

Yes, we know, that's the point of the thread.

Again, they are legal already.

hooradiation · 19-05-2013 11:05PM

SeanW wrote: »

When the law is only theoretical (as it is in places) what is your suggestion?

Given that's nonsense, there's no need for any suggestion to be made.

But continue to make shit up, if you'd like.

sdanseo · 19-05-2013 11:06PM

Blay wrote: »

Again, they are legal already.

But you won't get a license for one unless you're the super's son or have a damn good reason

Witcher · 19-05-2013 11:07PM

sdeire wrote: »

But you won't get a license for one

Yes you will:pac: Nearly every range in the country has a pistol range and a wealth of members with pistols. A rake of people have them in my own club and I'm applying for one soon myself. As easy to get as any other firearm.

The lack of knowledge about Irish firearms laws amongst the average person amazes me sometimes.

Fr_Dougal · 19-05-2013 11:12PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Here in Ireland there should be no right to have any sort of a gun.

It should be a privilege only allowed to certain people who the Gardaí deem to have a valid reason for having the gun, be of good character and prove that they are responsible and know what they are doing with the gun. They should also take steps to ensure that these guns don't fall into the wrong hands when they are not being used.

Every nutter shouldn't have a right to have a gun, any type of gun.

Eh that's kinda how the system works at the moment...you practically have to write an essay on why you want a gun, you have to be of excellent character and if you're not a member of a gun club you need references from 3 landowners giving you permission to shoot on their land. You also require another two character references on top of that.

On top of all of that your gun needs to be secure at all times, either decommissioned and locked up or locked up in a secure safe.

Witcher · 19-05-2013 11:14PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Eh that's kinda how the system works at the moment...you practically have to write an essay on why you want a gun, you have to be of excellent character and if you're not a member of a gun club you need references from 3 landowners giving you permission to shoot on their land. You also require another two character references on top of that.

On top of all of that your gun needs to be secure at all times, either decommissioned and locked up or locked up in a secure safe.

I think Battlecorp is well aware of the licencing system here:pac:

SeanW · 19-05-2013 11:35PM

hooradiation wrote: »

Given that's nonsense, there's no need for any suggestion to be made.

But continue to make shit up, if you'd like.

How is it nonsense? There are parts of this country (Limerick, Ennis, parts of Dublin etc) where ordinary people live lives of fear because the areas, estates etc are ruled by scum. That's the reality.

The only person that's "making up shít" is you.

garv123 · 19-05-2013 11:39PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Eh that's kinda how the system works at the moment...you practically have to write an essay on why you want a gun, you have to be of excellent character and if you're not a member of a gun club you need references from 3 landowners giving you permission to shoot on their land. You also require another two character references on top of that.

On top of all of that your gun needs to be secure at all times, either decommissioned and locked up or locked up in a secure safe.

You make it sound difficult..

Of course if you're not in a gunclub you need permission off a farmer.. they have to verify you have land to shoot on and just dont want a gun for self defence.. All you do is write I, "farmers name" give "your name" permission to shoot and hunt on my lands.. Signed, address and dated..

No essay either..
I wish to get X gun to hunt and shoot x y and z animals on said land.. Theres your reason.
Character references are not a big deal either.
You also dont need to be that excellent of a character.. Just have a non violent record.

And a compulsory safe for a rifle or more than 1 shotgun is a damn good idea.

Gatling · 20-05-2013 12:01AM

Don't want pistol anymore

I'd settle for Lever Action rifle

And a Fiddy Cal

I know too many people with licenced pistols as it is

BattleCorp · 20-05-2013 09:43AM

garv123 wrote: »

You make it sound difficult..

Of course if you're not in a gunclub you need permission off a farmer.. they have to verify you have land to shoot on and just dont want a gun for self defence.. All you do is write I, "farmers name" give "your name" permission to shoot and hunt on my lands.. Signed, address and dated..

No essay either..
I wish to get X gun to hunt and shoot x y and z animals on said land.. Theres your reason.
Character references are not a big deal either.
You also dont need to be that excellent of a character.. Just have a non violent record.

And a compulsory safe for a rifle or more than 1 shotgun is a damn good idea.

Eh, sorry but I probably gave him that idea because I worded it like that in my post.

My bad.

Would you like have the right to own a handgun in Ireland?

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