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Another "Freeman on the Land" Conspiracy Loon gets locked up for contempt of court

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  • #92
    I am pie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Biggins wrote: »
    So you still haven't the balls to say what your accusing me of? Right got it!

    I'm standing up and saying I despise this country being drained by BILLIONS.
    If its England, French, German or Russian Banks - I bloody object to their raping the Irish people financially.

    I make no bloody apologies for that.

    I'm not anti- any one country.
    Anyone that tries to infer that is also taking bollox!

    I did, several times. It hardly takes balls to put messages in an internet forum, you can drop that routine. Since your emotions are fogging up your ability to read and comprehend I´ll simplify matters for you.

    Your argument is lacking in any kind of facts, just emotions, bitternes and frustrations that you (or Ben the great ) signed a contract and can´t face up to the penalties outlined in that contract.

    As you frustrated by this reality and losing an argument online, in the courts and where ever else it is you carry the fight you have resorted to anti British up the Irish type nationalism which I have pointed out to you has no basis in the commercial reality of this case.

    The british HQ of this bank is not really interested in this case. It´s Irish bankers who have made the decision to repossess.

    Now I see you are using even more emotional language 'financial rape´etc, which is quite frankly a little insensitive. A contract was signed and not honoured. No one is being violently attacked against and if they are surprised at the fact their house is being repossessed it is because they have sadly not made themselves aware of the commercial realities of signing on for a mortgage and then not honouring their commitment.

    People are comparing you to a toddler, for me it´s more like bolshy teenager. I suspect you know what´s going on and why but you are confronting the situation with an angry burst of uncontrollable emotion and senseless name calling.

    Again, it really doesn´t require bollocks to talk to you on this forum. Just patience. The anti-brit nonsense is the raging against the light, the last rallying call of the doomed argument. It´s like an Irish Godwin.


  • #93
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    (By the way BG is effectively the epitome of Freeman-ism, to suggest he's not means you must define Freeman in some way that everyone else doesn't.)

    ...And again... Ben must be the first freeman in Ireland in that case to have European policies, economic policies and many others regarding national and international law that totally fly in the face of some Freeman law of the land bollox!

    ...Aaa but of course there is still this Freeman rubbish being spouted by fools that STILL cannot produce ANY evidence to prove he is one - strange also, none of us have EVER seen his full membership card!
    I guess we must ALL have been out, the night he flashed that card around! :pac:


  • #94
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Biggins wrote: »
    I've spoke with those involved in the case - and I'm NOT going into it in detail here (I'm sure the papers would love that lone).
    The 'talks' that the bank did were a bloody joke - when they even bothered their ass to even turn up on time, give copies of documents (instead of original ones) and more antics that would make an average person sick.
    Oh well if an anonymous person online claims to be intimate with the details (which they admit they got from just the one side) and won't actually pass them on then why shouldn't I accept that?
    If sending copies is the worst thing you can think of then I'm impressed with the bank's conduct. I don't really get the problem tbh.
    The banks like to screw around with people because they can, because they can get away with it and because they know most just cave over night at first attack usually - and they did get dirty!
    Very!
    Imagine if instead of waffling and bull****ting in court he went and tried to put things in the public sphere.


  • #95
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Biggins wrote: »
    I've spoke with those involved in the case - and I'm NOT going into it in detail here (I'm sure the papers would love that lone).
    The 'talks' that the bank did were a bloody joke - when they even bothered their ass to even turn up on time, give copies of documents (instead of original ones) and more antics that would make an average person sick.

    The banks like to screw around with people because they can, because they can get away with it and because they know most just cave over night at first attack usually - and they did get dirty!
    Very    !

    Hang on. I thought the campaign was stopped because Lee Wellstead got "tired"; story is changing now.


  • #96
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,306 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Biggins wrote: »
    ...And again... Ben must be the first freeman in Ireland in that case to have European policies, economic policies and many others regarding national and international law that totally fly in the face of some Freeman law of the land bollox!

    ...Aaa but of course there is still this Freeman rubbish being spouted by fools that STILL cannot produce ANY evidence to prove he is one - strange also, none of us have EVER seen his full membership card!
    I guess we must ALL have been out, the night he flashed that card around! :pac:

    To be honest Biggins if all you can do is call me and others Fools when we disagree with you then you should step away from debate for another few months.


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  • #97
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Biggins wrote: »
    ...And again... Ben must be the first freeman in Ireland in that case to have European policies, economic policies and many others regarding national and international law that totally fly in the face of some Freeman law of the land bollox!

    Before or after he decided to run for election?
    ..Aaa but of course there is still this Freeman rubbish being spouted by fools that STILL cannot produce ANY evidence to prove he is one - strange also, none of us have EVER seen his full membership card!
    I guess we must ALL have been out, the night he flashed that card around! :pac:

    ...but...but...HE put it on his own front door!!! And posted it on the web!!


  • #98
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    MadsL wrote: »
    Do you understand how banking works? Or are you seriously trying to tell me that you think that Irish banks keep money in this country????

    They don't but they hold on to some of it for home use, use some of it to give back to the people, they use some of it to seek mediation and solutions that end up being amicable to all parties and invest the rest (if there's little left) - what does the foreign banks do the vast majority of our time?

    Take our billions and shove it elsewhere.
    You know, those billions of debt that we are in now in further debt for because we had to fill their hole - for the next 47 years across 4 generations.

    Phoebas wrote: »
    You are a member of DDI, right?
    Yes.
    MadsL wrote: »
    So you can't explain it in his words. No problem, care to speculate?

    Not a bit.
    I've as much chance of being right, speculating about water on Mars as equally I do as knowing whats in anyones head without being able to read their mind!


  • #99
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    To be honest Biggins if all you can do is call me and others Fools when we disagree with you then you should step away from debate for another few months.

    I've been busy - some of us have been very busy not to be on AH regular as I'd like - sorry if that upsets you!
    Fcuk me - any excuse to bitch at another person!
    MadsL wrote: »
    Before or after he decided to run for election?

    ...but...but...HE put it on his own front door!!! And posted it on the web!!

    1. Both.
    2. So what? You can still do whatever you like - wherever you like, on your property.
    I don't see the problem here!
    MadsL wrote: »
    Hang on. I thought the campaign was stopped because Lee Wellstead got "tired"; story is changing now.

    Where has ANYONE said that? Please show it? Back your crap up!

    I said Lee Wellstead got tired of the whole battle against the bank.
    He did. The wore him and his family don't.
    For the sake of his, his wife and his kids mental health, he walked away.
    What part of this do you not get - or do wish wish to try again and state something that was never said in the first place?


  • #100
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Biggins wrote: »
    So you still haven't the balls to say what your accusing me of? Right got it!

    I'm standing up and saying I despise this country being drained by BILLIONS.
    If its England, French, German or Russian Banks - I bloody object to their raping the Irish people financially.

    I make no bloody apologies for that.

    I'm not anti- any one country.
    Anyone that tries to infer that is also taking bollox!

    So you're anti paying back loans, that people willingly entered into and agreed to the conditions?

    Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter...


  • #101
    I am pie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Biggins wrote: »
    They don't but they hold on to some of it for home use, use some of it to give back to the people, they use some of it to seek mediation and solutions that end up being amicable to all parties and invest the rest (if there's little left) - what does the foreign banks do the vast majority of our time?

    Take our billions and shove it elsewhere.
    You know, those billions of debt that we are in now in further debt for because we had to fill their hole - for the next 47 years across 4 generations.

    This is the anti-furinners nonsense I was talking about Biggins the great. It´s nonsense, it's not based in fact, it´s a lowest common denominator appeal to like minded oiks.

    Luckily it will not play with an Irish electorate. Enjoy the wastelands.


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  • #102
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Biggins wrote: »
    They don't but they hold on to some of it for home use, use some of it to give back to the people, they use some of it to seek mediation and solutions that end up being amicable to all parties and invest the rest (if there's little left) - what does the foreign banks do the vast majority of our time?

    Take our billions and shove it elsewhere.
    You know, those billions of debt that we are in now in further debt for because we had to fill their hole - for the next 47 years across 4 generations.

    You think Irish banks are somehow 'better' than other banks and "give back to the people"????????

    *facepalm

    They are for-profit commercial organisations not SVP ffs.
    Yes.

    Noted
    Not a bit.
    I've as much chance of being right, speculating about water on Mars as equally I do as knowing whats in anyones head without being able to read their mind!

    As a member could you explain the purpose of such a notice on the front door.
    Is it to avoid legal notices and escape payment of various taxes and debts?

    Do you have such a notice?


  • #103
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I am pie wrote: »
    ...It´s Irish bankers who have made the decision to repossess.

    You see here exposes just how uneducated you are in the matter regarding Lee - let me give you a clue - it was a BRITISH bank!

    DUH!!!


  • #104
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    So you're anti paying back loans, that people willingly entered into and agreed to the conditions?

    Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter...

    Have I stated I'm anti paying back loans?
    More lies being posted - show me where this has been stated!

    I am pie wrote: »
    This is the anti-furinners nonsense I was talking about Biggins the great. It´s nonsense, it's not based in fact, it´s a lowest common denominator appeal to like minded oiks.

    Luckily it will not play with an Irish electorate. Enjoy the wastelands.
    I'm not the one that can't even recognise a non-Irish bank and you think I will be the one in a wasteland?

    :pac:


  • #105
    Sergeant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    I'm rather taken by the following objectives on the DDI website.

    STOP Bondholder Payments: There is no legal liability for Irish people and their children to pay for private banking debts.
    REDUCE Family Home Mortgages: A substantial write down of personal debt to keep people in their homes and stimulate our domestic economy.
    ABOLISH All Taxes on Family Homes: “It is morally wrong, unjust and unfair to tax a persons home” – Enda Kenny, 1994.
    PROTECT Services & Allowances: Review all cuts made to essential services and people’s vital allowances.
    CUT Business Rates: Reduce costs for business to help make them more affordable and competitive thus protecting Irish jobs.
    PREVENT State Asset Stripping: Keep water, oil, gas, forestry, fisheries and mineral assets working for the people.

    Sounds idyllic. Cannot seem to find the part where they outline how they intend to come up with the spondulix to implement such proposals.


  • #106
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Biggins wrote: »
    You see here exposes just how uneducated you are in the matter regarding Lee - let me give you a clue - it was a BRITISH bank!

    DUH!!!

    Yes, I have noticed how all employees of Ulster Bank have those British accents, I was only remarking to Sinéad O'Malley, our local Bank Manager how fetching she looked in her bowler hat, and how she'd really come along in her elocution lessons.


  • #107
    blatantrereg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    Freemanism is a load of horsepoop. It's not just chancers and babies who buy into it though, unfortunately.


  • #108
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    MadsL wrote: »
    ...As a member could you explain the purpose of such a notice on the front door.
    Is it to avoid legal notices and escape payment of various taxes and debts?

    Do you have such a notice?

    I don't have such a notice - nor do I wish to.
    Can you explain the notice? You seem to know as much about it as me - more in fact!
    I don't do mind reading so nope, can't ready anyone's thoughts!


  • #109
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Biggins wrote: »
    Because its money being taking out of the country - at at time when we need all the money we have left - also our assets?
    What part of that can you not see?

    The borrowed money came into the country in the first place.
    What part of that can you not see?


  • #110
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    MadsL wrote: »
    Yes, I have noticed how all employees of Ulster Bank have those British accents, I was only remarking to Sinéad O'Malley, our local Bank Manager how fetching she looked in her bowler hat, and how she'd really come along in her elocution lessons.

    We are taking about the owners of the bank - but then you know this!


  • #111
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Biggins wrote: »
    You see here exposes just how uneducated you are in the matter regarding Lee - let me give you a clue - it was a BRITISH bank!

    DUH!!!

    Ulster Bank Ireland Limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of RBOS and is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. All commercial decisions relating to individual customers are made in their Dublin HQ.

    Its not quite a British bank, not that that would matter anyway. I didn't realise you didn't have to pay back loans from foreigners??


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  • #112
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Biggins wrote: »
    I don't have such a notice - nor do I wish to.
    Can you explain the notice? You seem to know as much about it as me - more in fact!
    I don't do mind reading so nope, can't ready anyone's thoughts!

    Well, the website does a good job.
    Where one can run into trouble with this implied right, is that so-called licence inspectors, Sheriffs, debt collectors, and other such undesirables feel that they have the right to enter into your land, approach your door, and unsolicited engage with you. This notice politely, but firmly, informs them that you grant them no such right, and better yet, lays down compensation due for anyone who exercises this right, that you have now relieved them of. Source

    Would you support such licence dodging and debt wriggling tactics?

    You don't have such a notice on your door, I wonder why you would join an organisation that advocates such tactics?


  • #113
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    from now on I refuse to use the word Freeman, and confer on them the title Bolloxologist.


  • #114
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    blatantrereg wrote: »
    Freemanism is a load of horsepoop. It's not just chancers and babies who buy into it though, unfortunately.

    The uneducated and the easily led do too, and certain people take advantage of that.:(


  • #115
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Biggins wrote: »

    3. What they didn't want was the banks to pull the rugs from underneath them without trying to come to a better accommodation - but you wish to gloss over that part?

    Why should the banks have to netogiate under anything other than what both parties legally agreed to when the loan was taken out. If I owe you money should you have to wait till im good and ready to pay it back when it suits me, regardless of what was agreed at the begining?

    Incidentally, when he signed the mortgage, was he happy to use his legal name on the states eyes or did all the changes only come up when he decided not to pay anymore?if he doesn't agree to the laws, why did he involve himself with them in the first place?


  • #116
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    Ulster Bank Ireland Limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of RBOS and is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. All commercial decisions relating to individual customers are made in their Dublin HQ.

    Its not quite a British bank, not that that would matter anyway. I didn't realise you didn't have to pay back loans from foreigners??

    Pure stupidity!

    The Bank is a subsidiary of National Westminster Bank, part of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group since 2000.
    Ulster Bank is used by RBS to deposit funds invested through the popular Royal Deposit Plan; one of RBS current structured investments.

    http://www.investors.rbs.com/download/report/NatWest_Plc_Annual_report.pdf

    Again... DUH!!!


  • #117
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Why should the banks have to netogiate under anything other than what both parties legally agreed to when the loan was taken out. If I owe you money should you have to wait till im good and ready to pay it back when it suits me, regardless of what was agreed at the begining?

    Incidentally, when he signed the mortgage, was he happy to use his legal name on the states eyes or did all the changes only come up when he decided not to pay anymore?if he doesn't agree to the laws, why did he involve himself with them in the first place?

    Because he was a traitorous muppet? I think that was the phrase used?

    In all seriousness, because they had the best rates I'd say.


  • #118
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Mod:

    I'm not sure why the DDI has just became the main topic of discussion on the thread as it wasn't mentioned in the OP.

    Keep it on topic which is the freemen stuff.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #119
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Biggins wrote: »
    If its England, French, German or Russian Banks - I bloody object to their raping the Irish people financially.

    !

    But its ok for irish people to take their money though, yeah?


  • #120
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Biggins wrote: »
    Pure stupidity!

    The Bank is a subsidiary of National Westminster Bank, part of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group since 2000.

    http://www.investors.rbs.com/download/report/NatWest_Plc_Annual_report.pdf

    Again... DUH!!!

    Essentially the same thing. And so what? As I said are contracts that where one party is foreign not enforceable?


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  • #121
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    K-9 wrote: »
    Mod:

    I'm not sure why the DDI has just became the main topic of discussion on the thread as it wasn't mentioned in the OP.

    Keep it on topic which is the freemen stuff.

    Its because DDI and freemanism are two cheeks of the same arse.


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