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M9 motorway (general thread)

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  • #252
    Al Capwned
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    M50 -> M1 is the same isnt it?
    Not unusual at all in fairness. It'll hopefully help with the congestion there at times!


  • #253
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,537 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    It's an odd one, never seen a merge setup like it.
    Stay in the right lane & you merge as before.
    Stay in the left lane & you go half a km before you merge.

    Having 2 merging points means traffic now gets stalled twice going north, Especially on a Monday when both lanes of the M7 are full.

    Extremely common across the rest of the world. Sort-of officially called a tiger tail in the UK.

    It does actually work better than a single lane merge when people get used to it.


  • #254
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Isn't there a plan to extend the 3 Lanes from Naas back to the M7/M9 merge or did I just dream that ?


  • #255
    tonc76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Isn't there a plan to extend the 3 Lanes from Naas back to the M7/M9 merge or did I just dream that ?

    There is a plan to add an additional lane for both directions of travel between Naas and the M7/M9 interchange. Someone posted minutes of a Kildare Co Co meeting recently where it was discussed.


  • #256
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Yes there is a plan and it is quite badly needed. No actual plans online though AFAIK.


  • #257
    Quickelles
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 378 ✭✭Quickelles


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Isn't there a plan to extend the 3 Lanes from Naas back to the M7/M9 merge or did I just dream that ?

    They'l be added in the centre; there is a wide grass median from the Naas Road to the M7/9 merge.

    The new merge works won't affect anything.


  • #258
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    It might need to be modified a little as this is the point where the lane drop/gain will be.


  • #259
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    I'm surprised they didn't resurface the Emergency Vehicle run through the trees while they were down there, that mystery road saved me on more than one occasion with crashes ahead or All-Ireland Final days.

    Where is said road?


  • #260
    rameire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭rameire


    Trick of the Tail wrote: »
    Where is said road?

    if going north bound. It is just on the right before you enter the tunnel

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  • #261
    jd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    MYOB wrote: »

    It does actually work better than a single lane merge when people get used to it.

    People panic in Ireland! Similar set up coming off the Ballymun Junction to go M50 South. People swerve across the hatching to get on the main lane ASAP when it is easier to stay left and merge from a long auxiliary lane at your leisure.


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  • #262
    Quickelles
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    jd wrote: »
    People panic in Ireland! Similar set up coming off the Ballymun Junction to go M50 South. People swerve across the hatching to get on the main lane ASAP when it is easier to stay left and merge from a long auxiliary lane at your leisure.


    Indeed, just a few minutes ago I had to have severe words with herself indoors for doing that coming from Cherrywood to the M50 northbound (J16) where they have a similar double join. :cool:


  • #263
    ardmacha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Indeed, just a few minutes ago I had to have severe words with herself indoors for doing that coming from Cherrywood to the M50 northbound (J16) where they have a similar double join

    A camera situated at these locations might both reduce the deficit and increase orderly use of the road.


  • #264
    tonc76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    ardmacha wrote: »
    A camera situated at these locations might both reduce the deficit and increase orderly use of the road.

    An RSA ad, similar to the recent ones, could improve matters as these types of merges are common to most of the motorways in the country


  • #265
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    M9 " largely empty" according to the wisdom of Matt cooper. Someone should tell him much of it is busier than the M8 to his beloved cork!


  • #266
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    road_high wrote: »
    M9 " largely empty" according to the wisdom of Matt cooper. Someone should tell him much of it is busier than the M8 to his beloved cork!

    When did he say that?


  • #267
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    When did he say that?

    Heard it on the playback today. So some evening during the week. The day the new lands cross and N11 upgrades were finally announced.
    The M9 seems to be a lightening rod for this kind if thing even though its as busy as any of the others m-ways.


  • #268
    Bards
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    road_high wrote: »
    Heard it on the playback today. So some evening during the week. The day the new lands cross and N11 upgrades were finally announced.
    The M9 seems to be a lightening rod for this kind if thing even though its as busy as any of the others m-ways.

    And considering the M9 is the shortest of all the motorways i bet on a km by km basis it is far busier than the M8


  • #269
    JupiterKid
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    Bards wrote: »
    And considering the M9 is the shortest of all the motorways i bet on a km by km basis it is far busier than the M8

    Aren't the M3, M4 and M2 and M11 sections shorter than the M9?:confused: Certainly the M2 and M11 at any rate.


  • #270
    Bards
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Bards


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Aren't the M3, M4 and M2 and M11 sections shorter than the M9?:confused: Certainly the M2 and M11 at any rate.

    I'm talking about the MIU's


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  • #271
    Al Capwned
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,721 ✭✭✭Al Capwned


    MIU?


  • #272
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Main InterUrbans, what the government called the M1/6/7/8/9 when they were being pushed up until 2010.


  • #273
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    The old N9 into Carlow from the Kk side has rightly gone back up to 100kmh. Presumably a very sensible decision from the council as it was always 100kmh before the M9 opened with far more traffic. Also good ad the mobile speed camera tends to live on this stretch! Also limit up to 80 kmh outside the Dolmen too.


  • #274
    Captain Havoc
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,393 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    road_high wrote: »
    The old N9 into Carlow from the Kk side has rightly gone back up to 100kmh. Presumably a very sensible decision from the council as it was always 100kmh before the M9 opened with far more traffic. Also good ad the mobile speed camera tends to live on this stretch! Also limit up to 80 kmh outside the Dolmen too.

    That's great news.

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  • #275
    JupiterKid
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    I was a passenger in a friend's car driving Northbound along the M9 between the Balitore/Athy and Kilcullen junctions this evening when a maniac in a black Volvo coupe overtook us IN THE HARD SHOULDER doing about 110 mph - our car literally shook as he passed us, we didnt see it appriach from behind and he very nearly clipped/hit us. :-o

    Needless to say, I rang the Gardai in Naas and the told me they already had reports of this car - must gave been criminals in some sort of getaway or joyriding. Unbelievably dangerous driving!


  • #276
    linny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭linny


    reading this week in the Kilkenny people, that plans for a motorway service station have been lodged with Kilkenny county council, its to be located near paulstown co Kilkenny, hopefully this will happen


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  • #277
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    linny wrote: »
    reading this week in the Kilkenny people, that plans for a motorway service station have been lodged with Kilkenny county council, its to be located near paulstown co Kilkenny, hopefully this will happen

    The M9 badly needs one. All the other MIU's have one or two now.


  • #278
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    road_high wrote: »
    The M9 badly needs one. All the other MIU's have one or two now.
    Would agree with this.

    Used the M9 as far as south Carlow a week ago for the first time since it opened in 2010. At a layby, two lads had gotten out of a car and were running up the embankment to take a piddle on the far side.

    Not sure if it was because it was a Saturday afternoon on a fine weekend but was surprised at the amount of traffic. It was very busy as far as Carlow. Is it always like that?

    Didn't see any crazy driving myself though.


  • #279
    road_high
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    spacetweek wrote: »
    Would agree with this.

    Used the M9 as far as south Carlow a week ago for the first time since it opened in 2010. At a layby, two lads had gotten out of a car and were running up the embankment to take a piddle on the far side.

    Not sure if it was because it was a Saturday afternoon on a fine weekend but was surprised at the amount of traffic. It was very busy as far as Carlow. Is it always like that?

    Didn't see any crazy driving myself though.

    No that would be typical I'd say. Traffic volumes are greatest to Carlow and then on again between Carlow and Kk. I am on it a lot and always remark how busier it seems than others I use regularly like the M7 between Borris in Ossary and Limerick, and the M11 around Gorey. Both seem empty some days in comparison.


  • #280
    Sully
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    The M9 is busy from Carlow to Dublin. The Kilkenny - Waterford section is much quieter.


  • #281
    hi5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    I use the m9 all the time, its getting busier by the day, even the lower south Kilkenny section, I don't know why?:confused:


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  • #282
    road_high
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    Sully wrote: »
    The M9 is busy from Carlow to Dublin. The Kilkenny - Waterford section is much quieter.

    I dunno, I don't use it south of KK very often but I do find it picks up again south of Danesfort to take account of KK-Waterford traffic. Far busier than the old N9/N10 ever were I would think. The atrocious quality of the old road discouraged trade and traffic to a great extent.


  • #283
    DeiseforLiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭DeiseforLiam


    Yes I've noticed that too. Even the toll on the Waterford Bypass appears busier.


  • #284
    Jamie2k9
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    MetalMan9 wrote: »
    Yes I've noticed that too. Even the toll on the Waterford Bypass appears busier.

    The new roundabout on the quays has pushed a lot of HGV's out of the city.


  • #285
    DeiseforLiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭DeiseforLiam


    Can't say I've noticed extra HGVs on the bypass.


  • #286
    linny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭linny


    just gone up on Kilkenny coco web site, http://planning.kilkennycoco.ie/FileRefDetails.aspx?file_number=13373&LASiteID=0


  • #287
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    linny wrote: »
    just gone up on Kilkenny coco web site, http://planning.kilkennycoco.ie/FileRefDetails.aspx?file_number=13373&LASiteID=0

    For the benefit of everyone else, this is the PP request for a Motorway Service Area at (I think) J7. From the maps and description it looks like there will be access to offline traffic as well.

    https://www.google.ie/maps?q=52.679582,-7.034819&num=1&t=m&z=15


  • #288
    antoobrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    hi5 wrote: »
    I use the m9 all the time, its getting busier by the day, even the lower south Kilkenny section, I don't know why?:confused:

    Traffic usually peaks around this time of the year across the country because of tourists, day trips, back to school shopping etc.


  • #289
    Jamie2k9
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    Great to see the service area happening, its a good location on the M9 around half way mark.


  • #290
    killbillvol2
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Great to see the service area happening, its a good location on the M9 around half way mark.

    I would never think of stopping on such a short journey. I wonder how many people would?


  • #291
    fricatus
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    killbillvol2 wrote: »
    I would never think of stopping on such a short journey. I wonder how many people would?

    I take it you don't have children.


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  • #292
    Sully
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    What's the story with all these new signs on the motorway, every few hundered meters you get a small square sign with letters and numbers.


  • #293
    rameire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭rameire


    These are called Driver Location Signs. they're to assist in locating broken down cars or accidents.

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  • #294
    Chris_5339762
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    killbillvol2 wrote: »
    I would never think of stopping on such a short journey. I wonder how many people would?

    Good to have a petrol stop, if nothing else, halfway along.


  • #295
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    This isn't an online service station as such, in that it's proposed to be situated off the motorway adjacent to the R448-M9 slip road.

    It's not far off, but it is off, with no direct access to the M9 carriageways.

    There's a farm in the site right now.


  • #296
    munchkin_utd
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    fricatus wrote: »
    I take it you don't have children.
    or a pregnant wife who has a baby pushing down on her bladder!

    Of you are on a cross country journey and you are already 2+hours on the road and could do with a break which isn't possible anywhere on the M50 or south of Dublin.
    (arguably with the exception of the Citywest Topaz, but even it has only about a dozen parking spaces so far from adequate to be honest)


  • #297
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Trick of the Tail wrote: »
    This isn't an online service station as such, in that it's proposed to be situated off the motorway adjacent to the R448-M9 slip road.

    It's not far off, but it is off, with no direct access to the M9 carriageways.

    There's a farm in the site right now.

    come on, its more less is, not all motorway service stations have direct links to the motorway. Have you travelled in the UK?


  • #298
    hi5
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    That's not actually a farm, its a sandblasting business.
    If there is an entrance off the motorway slip road, then you could access the service area without encountering any traffic other than motorway traffic, that's close enough to online for me.
    mapofm9servicearea_zps41ad1f0a.png


  • #299
    Jamie2k9
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    Topaz announced a new motorway services on M9 at Junction 5. Work expected to begin next summer. We go from years of nothing to two at once.

    Can't see two together going to work.


  • #300
    redtelephone
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Topaz announced a new motorway services on M9 at Junction 5. Work expected to begin next summer. We go from years of nothing to two at once.

    Can't see two together going to work.
    Indo says planning application has been submitted for Carlow so nothing definite yet. Could be interesting.
    http://www.independent.ie/incoming/topaz-to-create-100-new-jobs-at-two-new-service-stations-29624406.html


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  • #301
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    redtelephone wrote: »
    Indo says planning application has been submitted for Carlow so nothing definite yet. Could be interesting.
    http://www.independent.ie/incoming/topaz-to-create-100-new-jobs-at-two-new-service-stations-29624406.html

    CEO has said they don't expect any problems with the application and expect to be given the go ahead. I can't see why it would be rejected.


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