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Nova..that sinking feeling..

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  • #92
    Max Headroom
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    Dub Ste wrote: »
    After listening to Marty Miller the other day when he played Duran Duran !!!!!! and Coldplay in the same hour,you'd have to ask.

    At the risk of repeating myself(I know),why do we have to wait until Sunday evenings to get a really good show on Nova,Pat James plays some fabulous stuff,stuff I've not heard in ages.


    I emailed them a while ago and asked them if they'd do a listener survey,still waiting on a reply...


    Perhaps a Boards survey....:eek:........although i dont think theres many Nova listeners on here......its funny that even though we listen to them, we all have the same complaints..........but still listen....we only have ourselves to blame..:o


  • #93
    Big Nasty
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    Max Headroom wrote: »
    Perhaps a Boards survey....:eek:........although i dont think theres many Nova listeners on here......its funny that even though we listen to them, we all have the same complaints..........but still listen....we only have ourselves to blame..:o

    We still listen because Phantom has gone to absolute sh1te and despite Nova's 20 'Best Of Album' playlist it's still the best music radio station we got. ;)


  • #94
    Max Headroom
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    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    We still listen because Phantom has gone to absolute sh1te and despite Nova's 20 'Best Of Album' playlist it's still the best music radio station we got. ;)


    And that right there says it all........how sad.....


  • #95
    [Deleted User]
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    The only word I can use to describe Nova is flaccid,
    In truth it was never hard to begin with but there playing some real ****e these days
    I just heard them play the 1975,This muck is pop music!?
    Whats goin on?


  • #96
    heybaby
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    urbanledge wrote: »
    The only word I can use to describe Nova is flaccid,
    In truth it was never hard to begin with but there playing some real ****e these days
    I just heard them play the 1975,This muck is pop music!?
    Whats goin on?

    Nova was never going to be a hardcore rock station, it couldnt survive in such a competitive market broadcasting niche rock music, what has happened since it first went to air is it has softened its edges to appeal to a broader audience base, all the while tilting its cap in a 'rock' direction. As a result you will hear questionable 'rock' songs on the station including new music such as that one from The 1975 to enable the Nova to hook in more listeners. Personally I think Nova has an Rock identity, while its not the hardcore rock station some people wanted them to be , it is still more rock than the rest of the stations out there. I also think Nova will survive where Phantom, 4FM and sunshine will fall by the wayside when they eventually run out of money. The irony with Phantom , Sunshine and 4fm is they will probably run out of listeners before they run out of cash, where is this money coming from ??? Oh and before anyone tells me 4fm have gone up in cork, can i say .. BIG Deal, without Dublin where they have a lofty 1.6% after 4 years , they are doomed.


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  • #97
    Chris 80
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    heybaby wrote: »
    Nova was never going to be a hardcore rock station, it couldnt survive in such a competitive market broadcasting niche rock music, what has happened since it first went to air is it has softened its edges to appeal to a broader audience base, all the while tilting its cap in a 'rock' direction. As a result you will hear questionable 'rock' songs on the station including new music such as that one from The 1975 to enable the Nova to hook in more listeners. Personally I think Nova has an Rock identity, while its not the hardcore rock station some people wanted them to be , it is still more rock than the rest of the stations out there. I also think Nova will survive where Phantom, 4FM and sunshine will fall by the wayside when they eventually run out of money. The irony with Phantom , Sunshine and 4fm is they will probably run out of listeners before they run out of cash, where is this money coming from ??? Oh and before anyone tells me 4fm have gone up in cork, can i say .. BIG Deal, without Dublin where they have a lofty 1.6% after 4 years , they are doomed.

    I disagree. Nova has the opportunity to play more than one popular album track per album. But they're playing it way too safe. Also, I don't know if they're trying to promote their 'personalities'. But the way things lie, there's only one person trying to promote himself, and that's Martie Miller. That's a bad thing. Cuz he sounds way too young to present on a rock station. They'll continue to do ok maybe for the next 12 months. But people will get annoyed with the repitition. It's boring.


  • #98
    Max Headroom
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    Chris 80 wrote: »
    there's only one person trying to promote himself, and that's Martie Miller. That's a bad thing. Cuz he sounds way too young to present on a rock station..



    His age has nothing to do with presenting, except if he was older he'd not put up with the stuff they "tell him" to play, but its his lack of knowledge , i could see him presenting country or jazz just as easily if it was needed.....like that Dooly one, they'll go where the job is...
    ...PJ on the other hand...;)

    BTW...if one more dj says Leonard Skynrd.................:mad:


  • #99
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    It's Marty's job to 'put up'with what he's told to play and say, same as everyone else in Nova ( and most other stations).

    The days of presenters being able to choose what they play - except sometimes during specialist shows - are gone.

    Even Marty saying his name is because he's told to, same as Greg, Pat and Dee are.

    And in his particular defence, he has a great knowledge of and passion for rock music. but Nova's policy I guess requires the presenters not to make their input too esoteric.


  • #100
    Tazz T
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    I know loads of metalheads that listen to Nova because it's the radio station that gets closest to what they want. Ready made market. I wish they'd do a 80s classic rock/metal thing on a Saturday around 6pm. Miss the Rick Wakeman show then.


  • #101
    Btr
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    Trick of the Tail wrote: »
    It's Marty's job to 'put up'with what he's told to play and say, same as everyone else in Nova ( and most other stations).

    The days of presenters being able to choose what they play - except sometimes during specialist shows - are gone.

    Even Marty saying his name is because he's told to, same as Greg, Pat and Dee are.

    And in his particular defence, he has a great knowledge of and passion for rock music. but Nova's policy I guess requires the presenters not to make their input too esoteric.[/QUOTE

    I agree , PDs and music directors tell you what to play and say and anyone who thinks otherwise has never worked in radio. Pat is an exception and I understand plays more or less what he wants. I'm surprised they don't throw a little more caution to the wind but that said, Nova are undoubtedly analyzing the day by segment ( possibly as little as ever 15 mins) and their output would be largely based on what analysis tells them. Do public know better, honestly no. Saw an interview recently with their CEO where he said they'd spent 800k on advertising - investors have to recoup and they do this by attracting what they consider to be max audience . To us it's music, to them it's an investment and that's how real world works in business


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  • #102
    Trick of the Tail
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    All true and I agree.

    I disagree that it's necessary, but I agree that it's currently true, sadly.


  • #103
    Losty Dublin
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    Chris 80 wrote: »
    IBut the way things lie, there's only one person trying to promote himself, and that's Martie Miller. That's a bad thing. Cuz he sounds way too young to present on a rock station. .

    Marty is mightly close to the 40 year mark.


  • #104
    goose2005
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    Zulu wrote: »
    ...and they've included Alana Morrisette into the play list.

    Going downhill rapidly.

    Shame.

    how ironic.


  • #105
    Max Headroom
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    800k on advertising....:rolleyes:..... they should listen to their audience and play a more varied selection ....word of mouth costs nothing.....


  • #106
    real rocker
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    Max Headroom wrote: »
    800k on advertising....:rolleyes:..... they should listen to their audience and play a more varied selection ....word of mouth costs nothing.....

    Bonehead OOPS! Bono head Murphy is their preferred taste maker.


  • #107
    [Deleted User]
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    Dont get me wrong,
    I listen to Nova 8am to 5pm.
    Theres no other option but they need to play some metal at least once a day!
    They (Pat "the cock" Courtenay) made a big deal over Metallica having the most albums in the top 50 best metal albums or something yet he only track they ever play is sandman!
    Ive never even heard them mention slayer,pantera,megadeath etc never mind play them!


  • #108
    Max Headroom
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    urbanledge wrote: »
    !
    Ive never even heard them mention slayer,pantera,megadeath etc never mind play them!



    :eek:...........are ya kiddin.....metal on Nova..."cock rock" is the closest youll get..Jon Jovi, Kiss etc........Safe rock....;)


  • #109
    prunudo
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    Max Headroom wrote: »
    :eek:...........are ya kiddin.....metal on Nova..."cock rock" is the closest youll get..Jon Jovi, Kiss etc........Safe rock....;)

    I presume there was no mention of Jeff Hanneman's passing so.

    Rip, up there with a lot of other guitar greats.


  • #110
    Max Headroom
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    jvan wrote: »
    I presume there was no mention of Jeff Hanneman's passing so.

    Rip, up there with a lot of other guitar greats.


    Bit of luck PJ will mention it on sunday night...might even play a track..;)


  • #111
    skimpydoo
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    Max Headroom wrote: »
    Bit of luck PJ will mention it on sunday night...might even play a track..;)
    PJ is doing lady singers this Sunday so I doubt he will play any Slayer or mention it. Wait till Sunday weeks show.


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  • #112
    skimpydoo
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    urbanledge wrote: »
    Dont get me wrong,
    I listen to Nova 8am to 5pm.
    Theres no other option but they need to play some metal at least once a day!
    They (Pat "the cock" Courtenay) made a big deal over Metallica having the most albums in the top 50 best metal albums or something yet he only track they ever play is sandman!
    Ive never even heard them mention slayer,pantera,megadeath etc never mind play them!

    About a year ago around 9 or so on a Saturday evening I was briefly listening into the request show. You ring in and ask for a song/artist and they play it for you. A guy had phoned in and was on live asking for the Metallica song unforgiven from the Blacl album. The DJ replied sorry I can't play that as somebody else rang in looking for (Yep you guessed it) Enter Sandman. He proceeded to play Enter Sandman and never mentioned who had rang in looking for it.

    They have a play list which they have to stick to so when it comes to who they play eg ACDC etc they will only play certain songs by them. Their best show without a doubt is the Pat James show who I think is the best dj in Ireland and the second best show is Steve Downes who is on before Pat.

    Nova in my view should be more like Planet Rock who have a playlist which is only restricted to what artist's they will play. No Duran Duran unlike Nova and the popiest stuff you will get will be Peter Gabriel mainly because of his Prog Rock routes. When an artist is on their play list any of their songs can be played. For example last Saturday afternoon I heard them play Cat scratch fever by Motorhead. On Nova that would only be played by Pat James as Nova seem to think Ace of spades is Motorhead.


  • #113
    Max Headroom
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    PJ played some excellent surf rock last sunday....nice diversion me thinks...love Dick Dale, the ventures , man or astro man etc....its like listening to John Peel again.....:)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL4-QSj5PYM


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