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Nova..that sinking feeling..

  • 11-11-2011 10:35am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭


    I'm confused as to why ,with all the back slapping over the jnlr figures that Nova has "lost" so many dj's in its first year...Enda,Hugh,Louise..and now i hear John Power is abandoning ship.....Its clear who's really running the station...and it aint Kevin....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭real rocker


    I'm confused as to why ,with all the back slapping over the jnlr figures that Nova has "lost" so many dj's in its first year...Enda,Hugh,Louise..and now i hear John Power is abandoning ship.....Its clear who's really running the station...and it aint Kevin....

    HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY ABANDONED SHIP?
    QUICK TURNAROUND SEEMS TO BE FLAVOUR OF THE MONTH ON RADIO NOW WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭bigneacy


    HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY ABANDONED SHIP?
    QUICK TURNAROUND SEEMS TO BE FLAVOUR OF THE MONTH ON RADIO NOW WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

    No need to shout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY ABANDONED SHIP?
    .


    ..I think .."its our way or the highway"....is the attitude on Nova...wonder who'll be next to not agree with their music policy..:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    Who cares about the "in-house" politics. I rather like the Nova Music playlist at the minute.

    For me Greg Gaughran and Marty Miller are the best presenters on Nova.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    ..I think .."its our way or the highway"....is the attitude on Nova...wonder who'll be next to not agree with their music policy..:eek:


    What a strange way to run a company eh :rolleyes:

    And this thread :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭real rocker


    ..I think .."its our way or the highway"....is the attitude on Nova...wonder who'll be next to not agree with their music policy..:eek:

    Thanks for clarification. Highway To Hell anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    I'm confused as to why ,with all the back slapping over the jnlr figures that Nova has "lost" so many dj's in its first year...Enda,Hugh,Louise..and now i hear John Power is abandoning ship.....Its clear who's really running the station...and it aint Kevin....

    This is all supposition I suspect. Enda Murphy, we were told initially, had moved behind the scenes to concentrate on sales, one of his areas of expertise I understand. Bear in mind that Bay Broadcasting are shareholders in both Radio Nova and 4FM, so his move could well have been a strategic move - more for the benefit of 4FM.

    Hugh O'Brien's hallmark since the late '80s has been to be involved in the initial lineups of stations, during weekends, and leave after about a year. He has a fulltime job as solicitor. He left Century Radio before it had left the stage. He was with Lite FM for its first year and likewise with Dublin's Country 106.8.

    I thought I heard Louise Maloney's voice being used for something only yesterday, although I have to accept that she his no longer a presenter if you say so.

    I heard John Power this morning - "Flashback" now includes the slot previously occupied by Hugh O'Brien. When is John leaving Nova?

    As said by another poster, turnarounds in stations are hardly a revelation. In fact, the core lineup in Radio Nova has not changed that much - Greg Gaughren, Pat Courtenay, Marty Miller, Mike Maloney, Carol Dooley and Pat James are all still there. Rick Wakeman is still recording his bits for Saturday evenings and Barry Egan is still interviewing. That said, is Breffni Clack still involved? I haven't heard her for a while now. Initially, as well as newsreading, she presented "Flashback", but then the latter role was dropped.

    By the way, who's really running the station ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    If you go to the Nova site and click on "Programme schedule".. click on the shows..there are some that dont open up...maybe these people are next to go.....looks like theyre slowly weeding out the talent..

    BTW..Declan, you didnt mention Dee..she's a good presenter with a good knowledge of music...better than Miller anyday....and easier on the eye/ears..:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭captain caveman


    It also seems they've a huge turn-over in other staff... I see a posting for a job in production for Nova again. This must be the 3rd time this has been up since launch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    ...and they've included Alana Morrisette into the play list.

    Going downhill rapidly.

    Shame.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Zulu wrote: »
    ...and they've included Alana Morrisette into the play list.

    Going downhill rapidly.

    Shame.

    I stopped listening to Nova a few months ago, playlist is far far too repetitive and feels like it's the same bloody songs every time I put it on in the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    It also seems they've a huge turn-over in other staff... I see a posting for a job in production for Nova again. This must be the 3rd time this has been up since launch?

    TBH i think theyre all over the place...., I heard JP was leaving too.....Theyre going to be left with only a couple of DJ's soon.....maybe thats her their cunning plan...;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Sids Not wrote: »
    If you go to the Nova site and click on "Programme schedule".. click on the shows..there are some that dont open up...maybe these people are next to go.....looks like theyre slowly weeding out the talent..

    BTW..Declan, you didnt mention Dee..she's a good presenter with a good knowledge of music...better than Miller anyday....and easier on the eye/ears..:p

    I omitted Dee Woods because I was referring to the original lineup of presenters who are still there. Initially, Dee was a newsreader, or at least thats when I first heard her on Nova. Dee was the first replacement for Breffni Clack on Flashback and then replaced Enda in the evenings.

    I do like her style and indeed her looks!

    Radio Nova has to be a general catchall rock station in order to get the listeners and seems to be getting a lot of positive feedback. I know plenty of people out there who are quite happy with the general music mix. Not everybody is as precious about music as some of us here are (including me)!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Yea, but Alanis Moressette????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    !

    Radio Nova has to be a general catchall rock station in order to get the listeners and seems to be getting a lot of positive feedback. I know plenty of people out there who are quite happy with the general music mix. Not everybody is as precious about music as some of us here are (including me)!


    I know plenty of people who listen too (self included but only limited shows) but its only because its a bit different to what else thats on and they all say the same thing about the repetition...it seems the only ones not listening to Nova are Nova....
    Zulu wrote: »
    Yea, but Alanis Moressette????


    Think you'll find more tripe like this in the future playlists...a la Ms.Dooley..;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    I don't think its fair or accurate to blame the likes of A. Morisette on Carol Dooley.

    Whats in the playlist isn't part of her purview.

    A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    alinton wrote: »
    I don't think its fair or accurate to blame the likes of A. Morisette on Carol Dooley.

    Whats in the playlist isn't part of her purview.

    A.

    Very nieve of you to think this.......:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    Its not naive at all, its factual.

    Carol Dooley isn't programme controller or head of music.

    A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    alinton wrote: »
    Its not naive at all, its factual.

    Carol Dooley isn't programme controller or head of music.

    A.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Carol Dooley is PD and Greg Gaughren is the music controller. This mix of music begins to make sense when you consider Greg was with 98FM, Century Radio, Rock 104/FM1O4, Dublin's Country Mix 106.8 and East Coast FM..... a very wide spread to be expected and quite a lot of easily predicted tunes during the daytime schedule.

    Unlike us, they cannot afford to be too precious about their music, in order to keep the listeners. I would worry, though, if they sound too much like the old Rock104. Rock104 was a stage in the life of a station which was licenced to play commercial music and, as such, could stretch the meaning of "rock" as much as it wanted. Nova, on the other hand, has a more specific licence. In other words, Rock104 was a rebranded station to be rock-oriented while Radio Nova is a rock station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    Nova is not a rock station. It was branded (I think) as classic rock. There seems to be a shift recently to "guitar based" music.Just listen to their promo. So not strictly "rock".
    If I recall, Alanis Morissette has been on the playlist since the start.

    Why does Marty still need to remind us of his name and station every link? Does my head in. The weakest link IMO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Carol Dooley is PD and Greg Gaughren is the music controller. This mix of music begins to make sense when you consider Greg was with 98FM, Century Radio, Rock 104/FM1O4, Dublin's Country Mix 106.8 and East Coast FM..... a very wide spread to be expected and quite a lot of easily predicted tunes during the daytime schedule.

    Unlike us, they cannot afford to be too precious about their music, in order to keep the listeners. I would worry, though, if they sound too much like the old Rock104. Rock104 was a stage in the life of a station which was licenced to play commercial music and, as such, could stretch the meaning of "rock" as much as it wanted. Nova, on the other hand, has a more specific licence. In other words, Rock104 was a rebranded station to be rock-oriented while Radio Nova is a rock station.

    Don't think Greg was ever with 98FM or Century.......

    He was a long time veteran of the classic pirates (Nova/Q102 etc.)back in the 80's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    Given Dooley's radio experience its suprising that the music on Nova is so poor....for some reason she seems to have the last say , maybe the lads are afraid of her....:confused:
    She clearly doesnt give a "toss" about the audience....:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    Geoff O'Brien is PD.

    Your comments about Carol Dooley are clearly inaccurate and unfair.

    A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    alinton wrote: »
    Geoff O'Brien is PD.

    Your comments about Carol Dooley are clearly inaccurate and unfair.

    A.

    Andy, give her a job on Zenith then will ya ?...........:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 jaydeep


    Nova was great when it kicked off,but like all things novelty that is exactly what it becomes.

    I can't listen to the same burnt out dad rock ****e every 4 hours. Dj's that can't speak for more then 22 seconds, and the over all feel of the station for me is " I just don't want to be here".

    Nova " seriously overweight , bad body odour, balding, northside Dublin taxi driver music "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Bullshit, everyone knows thats Q102.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    IrishHomer wrote: »
    Don't think Greg was ever with 98FM or Century.......

    Greg worked afternoons on 98FM from it's opening day until the end of May 1991. He then moved to Century where he did 3PM-5:45PM weekdays and Sunday's. He was the last ever DJ on the station when they closed in November 1991.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Fuzzy Clam wrote: »
    Nova is not a rock station. It was branded (I think) as classic rock. There seems to be a shift recently to "guitar based" music.Just listen to their promo. So not strictly "rock".
    If I recall, Alanis Morissette has been on the playlist since the start.

    Radio Nova won the licence for the classic rock statipn covering Dublin and its commuter belt. Surely, that is a kind of "rock station" or am I missing something in the definition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    Think you'll find the WHOLE list of artists on here.....Alison Morrisette is a bonus track I think....:p



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    Radio Nova won the licence for the classic rock statipn covering Dublin and its commuter belt. Surely, that is a kind of "rock station" or am I missing something in the definition?

    I was being specific.:o

    If you recall when Nova started, there were a few complaints here about the lack of certain rock bands on the playlist. The reason is that many people thought it was rock station in the broad sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    Sids Not wrote: »
    Andy, give her a job on Zenith then will ya ?...........:D

    I happily would!

    :)

    A.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Definitely a woman.

    Padd b 1975 banned for 7 days for off topic rant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,101 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    Fuzzy Clam wrote: »
    I was being specific.:o

    If you recall when Nova started, there were a few complaints here about the lack of certain rock bands on the playlist. The reason is that many people thought it was rock station in the broad sense.



    I read somewhere on this forum that Nova should leave out the "classic" description..I agree ,they clearly arent a classic rock station when they include up to the minute tracks from KOL , Coldplay etc....
    Theyre playlist is so restricted that theyre pleasing none of the people all of the time..IMO..I'd like to hear more modern stuff along with the classics..say 50/50...and stop mentioning that theyre a classic rock station....:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,309 ✭✭✭✭Bard


    I read somewhere on this forum that Nova should leave out the "classic" description..I agree ,they clearly arent a classic rock station when they include up to the minute tracks from KOL , Coldplay etc....
    Theyre playlist is so restricted that theyre pleasing none of the people all of the time..IMO..I'd like to hear more modern stuff along with the classics..say 50/50...and stop mentioning that theyre a classic rock station....:)

    As with 98FM when it was "Classic Hits 98FM" and with the current station "Classic Hits 4FM", the word "classic" is taken as not necessarily having to mean "old".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭tinyjiney


    classic.......n.. repetitive, without variety, boring,nova..




    just my opinion..:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,084 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Who is pat mcmanus? Nova waffle on about him as if hes the greatest musician ever and were giving away a guitar signed by him and making a huge deal out of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    Ex-Mama's Boys, a stunning, outstanding guitarist and really nice bloke.

    Truly one of the best guitarists I've ever seen.

    A.

    p.s. Oh, the rest of his band are superb, too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Saw them in Kate Reilly's' Kitchen (possibly the only time they played Waterford and were not in the The Showboat! :p) my ears were ringing for a day or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Gaspode


    mike65 wrote: »
    Saw them in Kate Reilly's' Kitchen (possibly the only time they played Waterford and were not in the The Showboat! :p) my ears were ringing for a day or two.

    Saw Mamas Boys a few times in the 80s - definitely the loudest band I've ever heard, and I've heard a lot of metal bands over the years!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭tinyjiney


    Gaspode wrote: »
    Saw Mamas Boys a few times in the 80s - definitely the loudest band I've ever heard, and I've heard a lot of metal bands over the years!


    Was at Motorhead/Joan Jett in UCD in 80 (?)....ears still ringing.........:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    Gaspode wrote: »
    Saw Mamas Boys a few times in the 80s - definitely the loudest band I've ever heard, and I've heard a lot of metal bands over the years!

    "Needle in the groove" is a cracking tune.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    Zulu wrote: »
    ...and they've included Alana Morrisette into the play list.

    Going downhill rapidly.

    Shame.

    And if they play Smoke on the f*cking water one more time...:mad:

    I hate that song! And I used to like it before it got played 50 times a week*!



    *MAY BE an exaggeration!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    Bad Panda wrote: »
    And if they play Smoke on the f*cking water one more time...:mad:

    I hate that song! And I used to like it before it got played 50 times a week*!



    *MAY BE an exaggeration!

    NAH....that sounds about right..........;)



    I dont know if anyone else has noticed the increase in "classic rock" tunes appearing on the other stations lately...........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Simon Gruber Says


    If I hear Bloody Well Right one more time I'm going to rip the radio out of my car. I'm not a big fan of 20 minute long Pink Floyd noise solos either but that could just be me.

    In my opinion, radio in Dublin is pretty bad. Whenever I got stateside I love radio there. Firstly there is huge choice of stations in every genre you can think of, but also the quality is quite high for most places.

    Nova should take a listen to some of the decent rock stations there. They can play modern up to date stuff but also mix in more classic stuff and oldies. You're not going to like every song they play but you're guaranteed there will be good stuff on. The only stuff that is repeated often would be new releases, you're not going to hear the same 30 songs everyday for weeks.

    Whereas with Nova you can pretty much guess what songs will be on everyday and a lot of it is just old crap that was crap when it was released back then too and it's repeated day in day out. A bit of variety would be nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭tinyjiney


    Sadly the powers that be at Nova dont give a crap about their listeners...its all about the money, not the music...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Gaspode


    I like Nova and will stick with it for a while simply because it's the best of really really crap lot when it comes to music on the radio here.
    I like rock music, and this is as close as it gets in Dublin to a rock station imo.
    It does piss me off daily that they play the same songs over and over, but at least it's not the pure sh1t that's in the charts.
    It also disappoints me that they continually underestimate their over target audience - people who like rock tend (generalising here) to appreciate albums much more than singles, so just playing the most well know track by a band is really off-putting. I've yet to hear them play a Black Sabbath song that wasnt feckin boring Paranoid, easily one of the worst Sabbath songs recorded.
    Same applies to any other band you want to mention.
    They need to start putting their money where their mouth is and cater to Rock fans by playing a more diverse range of songs.

    The other change they need to make is to drop 50% of their news slots. Who the hell needs updates every 30 minutes, it's ridiculous!

    Having said all that, they still annoying me less than any other station. Go figure!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Btr


    I gave up listening to Nova shortly after it went on air. I tuned in recently and unfortunately it still sounds the same. If the list of those who left is accurate, then maybe they're pushing out more and more 94.9 imports. Its been a poor product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    Tuned in today (by mistake..:p) and my ears nearly bled...Bill (No ..thats my natural colour hair) Cullen was on praising Nova in some sort of ad thingy......Pat Courtney..yer fired................:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭giftgrub


    Sids Not wrote: »
    Tuned in today (by mistake..:p) and my ears nearly bled...Bill (No ..thats my natural colour hair) Cullen was on praising Nova in some sort of ad thingy......Pat Courtney..yer fired................:p

    Thats funny...I heard Dr Billo doing the same in an ad on 98fm;)

    Anways back to nova...I'm more of a news and current affairs person during the day so I cant really speak about their output then, but I do listen in the morning and at night.

    I like the music, i sometimes think its a pity about the links inbetween. In fact the overnight stuff is probably the best, loads of songs, not so many links


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭Sids Not


    giftgrub wrote: »
    Thats funny...I heard Dr Billo doing the same in an ad on 98fm;)

    Anways back to nova...I'm more of a news and current affairs person during the day so I cant really speak about their output then, but I do listen in the morning and at night.


    There lies the problem with Nova (imo)..its people like you that they seem to be satisfying...people who listen for a few minutes at a time during the day...its the poor sods in factories and shops that have Nova on in the background , but arent actually listening....
    It wont be long before it turns into yet another talk station with the odd rock song thrown in....oh wait thats Phantom....:p


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