Are you excited about the Fibre rollout on May 22nd?

Alter-Ego · 29-04-2013 08:34PM

My parents were only able to switch from Dial-Up to a broadband option in July 2010. I have a 120Mb connection, they're still on a 1mb connection that barely even clocks that.

I'd say "first world problems" but there's probably people in rural Togo with better broadband connections than Eircon's sh1tty offerings.

Phoebas · 29-04-2013 08:55PM

So, does this fibre rollout affect Eircom customers only or are other providers using the same infrastructure.
I'm with Vodafone. I get 4 mbps tops - apparently my line can't handle any more, but there's one of those cabinet things about 200 metres does the road. Do I have to return to Eircom to benefit?

krudler · 29-04-2013 09:09PM

zerks wrote: »

A neighbour of mine has relatives in a small village in the arse end of nowhere in Eastern Europe and they get a minimum of 20Mb as standard,she laughs at the quality service we get here.

Considering this is a country that has the offices of Google,Ebay etc. the standard of broadband is shocking.

It absolutely staggers me the amount of people who don't yet have internet here, and not due to it not being available just never got around to getting it. the internet is not a new invention, it's been available here since the mid 90's.
I showed an aunt how I could pay my bills on my phone and her head nearly exploded.

Fox_In_Socks · 29-04-2013 09:12PM

krudler wrote: »

It absolutely staggers me the amount of people who don't yet have internet here, and not due to it not being available just never got around to getting it. the internet is not a new invention, it's been available here since the mid 90's.
I showed an aunt how I could pay my bills on my phone and her head nearly exploded.

You'll only go blind!

Steve O · 29-04-2013 09:16PM

krudler wrote: »

It absolutely staggers me the amount of people who don't yet have internet here, and not due to it not being available just never got around to getting it. the internet is not a new invention, it's been available here since the mid 90's.
I showed an aunt how I could pay my bills on my phone and her head nearly exploded.

Reminds me of this guy.

Chuck Stone · 30-04-2013 01:24AM

Will people on land line contacts with third parties like Vodafone be eligible for upgrade?

paddy147 · 30-04-2013 01:26AM

I just had a Fibre rollout 5 minutes ago.

And a big chunky one at that too,so lots of squeezing and pushing to roll that fibre out.:pac:

So yes,Im excited and also relieved too.:D

Duck Soup · 30-04-2013 02:31AM

Phoebas wrote: »

So, does this fibre rollout affect Eircom customers only or are other providers using the same infrastructure.
I'm with Vodafone. I get 4 mbps tops - apparently my line can't handle any more, but there's one of those cabinet things about 200 metres does the road. Do I have to return to Eircom to benefit?

No, you don't. Thanks to the regulator, eircom is required to open up the new fibre lines to competitors. So in other words, when you see other operators offering fibre broadband - or they call your home offering it - chances are they may be using the very same lines, just offering different packages.

On the debate on the launch date for the fibre roll-out, 4 other operators responded to ComReg: Vodafone, ALTO, Sky Ireland and BT Ireland. It's a fair guess that they will be marketing their services for the new fibre infrastructure.

Vodafone has already started asking customers to register an interest in the new fibre service.

http://comingsoon.vodafone.ie/register/next-generation-broadband

Duck Soup · 30-04-2013 02:32AM

paddy147 wrote: »

I just had a Fibre rollout 5 minutes ago.

And a big chunky one at that too,so lots of squeezing and pushing to roll that fibre out.:pac:

So yes,Im excited and also relieved too.:D

If you lay 200m of cable, I'd see a doctor if I were you.

beks101 · 30-04-2013 03:50AM

I saw the title and genuinely thought this thread was gonna be about brown bread.

A brown bread rollout would be pretty damn cool

Ruudi_Mentari · 30-04-2013 04:18AM

af_thefragile wrote: »

Fiber is really good for you. Keeps your bowel healthy and reduces the risk of you getting colon cancer.

I say everyone needs to have fiber!!

Agreed..... i was ****ting like a squirrel, if at all in recent times and felt fairly prone to cancer. best ween myself back onto the solid stuff i thought and sure long way to go yet but back on the porridge now, for starters

curled out like a footlong there earlier. felt essential alright; toxins need flushing too.

Ruudi_Mentari · 30-04-2013 04:48AM

Will this apply to sky.... Pierce Brosnan, and his not so secret service. I made the switch to there last wk having more than just heard about it and tbh it is getting kind of intrusive now....... you'd think Remington Steele would be plugging swish broadband so I just ran with it

mister bishi · 30-04-2013 05:27AM

im rolling out some hefty fibre as we speak

NuckingFacker · 30-04-2013 06:13AM

My download is 1.7 and my upload is 0.2. My nearest "cab" is the far side of the chinese takeaway which is FCUKING MILES AWAY. The only fibre I'm getting any time soon is a bowl of Country Store in about ten miutes if I manage to download some fresh milk.:mad:

Icyseanfitz · 30-04-2013 09:59AM

Considering where I live il get excited for fibre in 20 years, sad thing is that I actually live in a big town

Out of curiosity a while back I googled Internet speeds in some proper 3rd world countries, they all had faster speeds than I do

good job eircom good job

bnt · 30-04-2013 10:16AM

ted1 wrote: »

Not really if you choose to live in the sticks you should accept that its make no financial sense for any company to kay fibre optics to your door

Yep. Neither Eircom nor UPC or anyone else have a way round this problem. There's Fibre to your home (FTTH) - think about what that costs to put in - and then there's Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC), which is what Eircom is doing. From the Cabinet, it's back on to the analogue phone lines for what has to be a short run to the home. The protocol is VDSL2, and the performance still depends heavily on the length of the analogue line.

VDSL2 deteriorates quickly from a theoretical maximum of 250 Mbit/s at source to 100 Mbit/s at 0.5 km (1,600 ft) and 50 Mbit/s at 1 km (3,300 ft), but degrades at a much slower rate from there, and outperforms VDSL. Starting from 1.6 km (1 mi) its performance is equal to ADSL2+.[3]

So, this new service is probably not going to provide blazing speeds to people out in the sticks, and isn't expected to. There will be fewer cabinets, so you're probably going to be further away from one.

Whether you see any improvement at all will depend primarily on getting a cabinet closer to you, or so it seems to me. The last mile problem isn't going away entirely.

Loire · 30-04-2013 10:40AM

For Eircon lovers (and that's 8mb too!)
http://www.upc.ie/broadband/speed_experience/

eyeball kid · 30-04-2013 10:47AM

krudler wrote: »

think ours is 500gb, have come close a few times but even at that your average user will never go near that. I dunno how people survive on mobile allowances, 15gb? I'd use that in a day

Where I am, I use a pre paid mobile dongle where I get 3GB allowance for a bargain €34 a month.

stimpson · 30-04-2013 11:33AM

eyeball kid wrote: »

Where I am, I use a pre paid mobile dongle where I get 3GB allowance for a bargain €34 a month.

Where I am, I could download your entire allowance in less than 5 minutes...

Capt'n Midnight · 30-04-2013 12:03PM

zerks wrote: »

A neighbour of mine has relatives in a small village in the arse end of nowhere in Eastern Europe and they get a minimum of 20Mb as standard,she laughs at the quality service we get here.

Considering this is a country that has the offices of Google,Ebay etc. the standard of broadband is shocking.

That can't be right, we are the e-hub of Europe

Conbhar · 30-04-2013 12:14PM

I am like fook. I live in the country just outside Donegal Town and the only options i have for broadband are either expensive satellite types or 3.

Thatnastyboy · 30-04-2013 12:22PM

MajorMax wrote: »

Well "Buddy"
you clearly haven't spent any time recently in either an emergency or court room. I have in both and what I saw and experienced beggars belief. (Off topic -I didn't know horse worrying was still a crime)
You saying that you haven't been sold is naive at best and ignores all evidence. Our children and our children's children will be paying the mortgage for our country for decades to come and like any mortgage, until you've paid it off the bank owns your house. Anything elde is wishful thinking
Stay lucky!

I have, been in both. and have to say the wifi was lacking in speed.

Roll on fibre power.

To the rest of your reply, rhetorical regurgitated, worn out bolix as far as im concerned, And i couldnt give a fiddlers, I own my own ass, if you want to go around selling yours that's your business, Buddy.

Freddy Smelly · 30-04-2013 12:55PM

there is a very large misconception about fibre rollout

1. it is very expensive to replace all the copper network with fibre and therefore it is not cost effective to lay out miles of fibre line just for a couple of houses built in the back arse of nowhere.

this is why UPC dont do internet for people living in rural areas

2. it is a royal pain in the ass for isp's to get permit from local authorities to dig up roads to install fibre ducts. getting permits can drag on for ages cos all it takes is one ignorant numpty to lodge objections and it holds up the whole process.

this is not just restricted to upgrading networks... the ignorant numpty can also delay upgrading water services or even new road builds.

krudler · 30-04-2013 12:57PM

eyeball kid wrote: »

Where I am, I use a pre paid mobile dongle where I get 3GB allowance for a bargain €34 a month.

Sweet jesus, I get more than double that on my phone data allowance, it'd suck having such a restriction on your usage

kowloon · 30-04-2013 01:13PM

In a place in the UK the only reason we got fibre, according to the BT guy, was that the local connection was ruined by people stealing the existing copper. No idea if that's entirely true, but perhaps it'll be installed slowly as the existing network needs to be replaced?

Icyseanfitz · 30-04-2013 01:17PM

kowloon wrote: »

In a place in the UK the only reason we got fibre, according to the BT guy, was that the local connection was ruined by people stealing the existing copper. No idea if that's entirely true, but perhaps it'll be installed slowly as the existing network needs to be replaced?

Sounds like a plan to me

Capt'n Midnight · 30-04-2013 02:33PM

kowloon wrote: »

In a place in the UK the only reason we got fibre, according to the BT guy, was that the local connection was ruined by people stealing the existing copper. No idea if that's entirely true, but perhaps it'll be installed slowly as the existing network needs to be replaced?

AFAIK it would cost something like €2Bn to have bypassed Eircom and installed a parallel fibre network.

The sad part is that it would have been cheaper

cba looking up the stats, but IIRC between pensioners and disabilities etc. something like 1/4 to 1/3rd of all domestic line rentals are paid for by the state.

Eircom have a geographically monopoly over copper and are milking it for all it's worth

Freddy Smelly · 30-04-2013 02:39PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Eircom have a geographically monopoly over copper and are milking it for all it's worth

if it was upc or any other isp that owned the copper they too would do the same.

Capt'n Midnight · 30-04-2013 02:40PM

Freddy Smelly wrote: »

2. it is a royal pain in the ass for isp's to get permit from local authorities to dig up roads to install fibre ducts.

It's an even bigger pain in the ass to have to wait years for broadband because NTL were forced to roll out digital TV (which doesn't have much margin) before they were allowed to roll out data (margin = double line rental + cost per minute + whatever they could charge for offering 6,000Kb vs. 64kb ISDN )

wuzziwig · 30-04-2013 04:33PM

I'm not asking for fibre speeds where I live in the sticks. A basic 1Mb line would do me the finest. I'm a simple soul and the ability to watch a youtube video from the comfort of my own livingroom would make me a very happy bunny indeed.

Are you excited about the Fibre rollout on May 22nd?

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