Are you excited about the Fibre rollout on May 22nd?

Richard Dower

Yes folks, the [hopefully] dreary days of 1mb broadband will, god willing, come to an end in the next month....well, for those of us in cities and major towns at least.....(um, sorry Clonmel..... )

Eircom finally got a clue, or at least half a clue depending on if you think FTTC is good as opposed to the prefered FTTH, but we'll soon have 70mb download and a whopping 20mb upload

Course you'll need to be within 500m of a fibre cab. You know....there is a reason my join date to Boards is July 2003. It was the first day i got BB....and, Boards was the very first site i viewed that same day

I still have my old BT Zyzel modem...still works! :P , we've had a very rough ride in Ireland for 10 years starting with 512/128....took years to get to 3mb let alone 8 or the magically but rarely seen 24mb.

I see the light at the end...we're almost there


Boards.ie crowd sourcing fibre mapping project, please help! - spot a fibre cab?....map it!! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056919149

Banjo String

Richard Dower wrote: »

Yes folks, the [hopefully] dreary days of 1mb broadband will, god willing, come to an end in the next month....well, for those of us in cities and major towns at least.....(um, sorry Clonmel..... )

Eircom finally got a clue, or at least half a clue depending on if you think FTTC is good as opposed to the prefered FTTH, but we'll soon have 70mb download and a whopping 20mb upload

Course you'll need to be within 500m of a fibre cab. You know....there is a reason my join date to Boards is July 2003. It was the first day i got BB....and, Boards was the very first site i viewed that same day

I still have my old BT Zyzel modem...still works! :P , we've had a very rough ride in Ireland for 10 years starting with 512/128....took years to get to 3mb let alone 8 or the magically but rarely seen 24mb.

I see the light at the end...we're almost there


Boards.ie crowd sourcing fibre mapping project, please help! - spot a fibre cab?....map it!! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056919149

I'll reply in five mins OP.

I have to get off the internet, dad wants to use the landline to send a fax:mad:

demanufactured

Richard Dower wrote: »

Yes folks, the [hopefully] dreary days of 1mb broadband will, god willing, come to an end in the next month....well, for those of us in cities and major towns at least.....(um, sorry Clonmel..... )

Eircom finally got a clue, or at least half a clue depending on if you think FTTC is good as opposed to the prefered FTTH, but we'll soon have 70mb download and a whopping 20mb upload

Course you'll need to be within 500m of a fibre cab. You know....there is a reason my join date to Boards is July 2003. It was the first day i got BB....and, Boards was the very first site i viewed that same day

I still have my old BT Zyzel modem...still works! :P , we've had a very rough ride in Ireland for 10 years starting with 512/128....took years to get to 3mb let alone 8 or the magically but rarely seen 24mb.

I see the light at the end...we're almost there


Boards.ie crowd sourcing fibre mapping project, please help! - spot a fibre cab?....map it!! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056919149

No waiting for me..for you see I have a UPC connection.....oh its wonderful.

amacca

I'd be excited (well relieved actually at this stage) in the event of

a) this being available in my area

b) this being available at a reasonable cost


I remain sceptical of both or even one of these things coming to pass in the near future in my area given how long it took them to enable an exchange so they could overcharge me in the past

galwayrush

Dammit, i'm going to miss it, at a concert in Mnachester that night.

Hasmunch

I liad a fiber cable earlier this morning

Lando Griffin

There still has to be a story about a lad with a JCB to ruin it for a few weeks

tuxy

Richard Dower wrote: »

Yes folks, the [hopefully] dreary days of 1mb broadband will, god willing, come to an end in the next month....well, for those of us in cities and major towns at least.....(um, sorry Clonmel..... )

But Clonmel is a maor town. 16k people I think, which makes it a major town by Irish standards. Bigger than many town that are on the map

Pawpad666

18k.....give us our fibre broadband!:-/

danniemcq

I'll be excited when providers that don't start with Eir and end with com and rhymes with Eircon don't have it by themselves and other providers can use it.

Unless the guy on the street lied to me and everyone gets it at the same time

cml387

I've had 50mB broadband in Clonmel for years. Thanks UPC!

Cool_CM

Will the plumbing systems be able to survive 16k people all discovering fibre for the first time at the same time?

Einstein

No waiting here! Already got it thanks to Magnet BB

Eircon should concentrate on making even the 1MB BB available to all customers....

The fact that there's still people in this country, that can't access Broadband because of their location is an absolute joke.

RoyalMarine

I will never use another eircom service. I will also never let a family or friend do the same.

Too much trouble, shíte speeds with expensive packages, line rental is a joke in this day and age and congestion is just utter shíte come 5pm onwards. Latency ruins any chance of online gaming, and their customer service is horrendous.

I had to cancel my BB before, and the cancellation department asked me 4 times on the call if I would like to buy a phone off them.

stimpson

Richard Dower wrote: »

but we'll soon have up to*70mb download and a whopping 20mb upload. terms and conditions apply



* nowhere near

FYP

shruikan2553

RoyalMarine wrote: »

I will never use another eircom service. I will also never let a family or friend do the same.

Too much trouble, shíte speeds with expensive packages, line rental is a joke in this day and age and congestion is just utter shíte come 5pm onwards. Latency ruins any chance of online gaming, and their customer service is horrendous.

I had to cancel my BB before, and the cancellation department asked me 4 times on the call if I would like to buy a phone off them.

This, Im pretty much done with eircom unless they magically become better than UPC, even my 3 mobile broadband is better than what eircom offers

Nabber

Oh UPC, 150mb down 10 up.
average speed, 146.7mbs.

By the time eircom introduce the 70mb. UPC may be rolling out the 400mb.

kirving

Comparing a service offered by UPC in a city to that provided by eircom countrywide is ridiculous.

You could charge some rural customers hunderds every month and still never recoup the cost. I dont think people realise the cost of fibre, and that physics dictates why their copper line is rubbish.

tolosenc

So when are each of the phases beginning? I'm not till phase 4.

(I presume this goes for anyone who gets internet from not UPC, as we share exchanges/lines w/ Eircom)

Steve O

I hear the charges are 99 euro for the first 3 minutes and 9999 euro per month there after. They're calling it their next next generation broadband.

Chairman Meow

I remember the glory days of getting half a meg BB with Eircom back in 2003. Finally being able to play multiplayer games like Battlefield 1942, ah the good old days.
It makes me angry in a way when i see people in work or wherever complaining that the internet is slow if they cant download a few gigs of email in a split second, its like, bitch, back in my day if you got 5kb down and 1kb up, you were ****ing golden. That song you were downloading might 'only' take an hour at that speed.

People just dont appreciate how fast this stuff has moved. They need to go back to the days of only using the internet on the weekend cause the calls were cheaper to appreciate what we have nowadays.

sfwcork

EirCom are a pack of P ricks

When I was living at home few years back i downloaded the bruno mars album on P2P

They threated the father with court and the likes if i used p2p again

like what the fook has it to do with them..oh yeah eircom music hub

rhonin

sfwcork wrote: »

EirCom are a pack of P ricks

When I was living at home few years back i downloaded the bruno mars album on P2P

They threated the father with court and the likes if i used p2p again

like what the fook has it to do with them..oh yeah eircom music hub

Don't blame them. Wasting bandwidth on Bruno Mars should be illegal!

All that extra speed will come in real handy for legally downloading 1080p Linux distros.

senordingdong

But if it's Eircom they'll still charge through the roof because that's what they do.

UPC used to be the way forward but now they're just the best of a bad bunch.

kingtiger

Chairman Meow wrote: »

back in my day if you got 5kb down and 1kb up, you were ****ing golden. That song you were downloading might 'only' take an hour at that speed.

hehe indeed, MP3 though me bollix, for me it is was all about waiting for that 5meg .avi of Pammy and Tommy to download

Chairman Meow

kingtiger wrote: »

hehe indeed, MP3 though me bollix, for me it is was all about waiting for that 5meg .avi of Pammy and Tommy to download

300kb 30 second porno clips that would take about 5 minutes to download and were so blocky they looked like porn from the ****ing lego dimension....good times

kingtiger

Chairman Meow wrote: »

300kb 30 second porno clips that would take about 5 minutes to download and were so blocky they looked like porn from the ****ing lego dimension....good times

aye as far as I remember it was 20 minutes to download a MB

Capt'n Midnight

Kevin Irving wrote: »

Comparing a service offered by UPC in a city to that provided by eircom countrywide is ridiculous.

Read it again, the comparison is with a largish town

The national "broadband" scheme is a different kettle of fish and state subsidised. Of course up north (or above the artic circle if you live in Finland) you will get ADSL. Up north if they can't give you ADSL they will subsidise a two way satellite link.


http://www.askcomreg.ie/tell_us/universal_service_obligation___what_it_means_for_your_phone_service.264.LE.asp

As the universal service provider, what should eircom do?
...
use all reasonable efforts to make sure that connections to the publicly available telephone network can send and receive data at a rate of at least 28.8 kbit/s, if necessary by removing carrier systems equipment and increasing the data speed on certain lines,
...
The USO does not cover:

ISDN and broadband internet connections,
mobile phone services, or
directory enquiry services

Not that they can even keep that low level of service up and running
http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/30133-comreg-fines-eircom-525k-f

Eircom has been fined €525,000 for failing to meet customer service targets as set down by ComReg in its Universal Service Obligation (USO) agreement with the regulator.

Contractually Eircom are supposed to give all repairs equal status. In practice no one believes this (this is a measure of how little goodwill there is in the brand). It's like when ordering broadband you order it from eircom and then switch to the intended provider AFTER the line is installed and tested.

You could charge some rural customers hunderds every month and still never recoup the cost. I dont think people realise the cost of fibre, and that physics dictates why their copper line is rubbish.

It's not just physics, in a lot of cases it's pair gains and phantom lines and other such cost saving measures, so common that it's even explicitly stated in the USO terms if necessary by removing carrier systems equipment and increasing the data speed on certain lines,


Again I'll refer you to the National "Broadband" Scheme for rural customers and that Eircom doesn't even have to provide 33.6kb dial up in the cities.

Fibre is cheaper to the cabinet, cost of copper and all that.

Eircom spent two years "testing" DSL (around/in RTE?) before releasing it and then the price was initially set at EXACTLY the same as downloading the allowed amount of data on off peak ISDN where you paid per minute. They are still milking line rental and per minute dial up.


It's not that long ago that I've had to play "line roulette" where you order two phone lines in the hope that one of them will have a half decent connection. We ended up having to use both. 6Km from the GPO (like really rural) and having to setup failover in case either of the 2Mb lines went flaky.

http://www.cablesurf.com/ in Dungarvan show what can be done in a small town, they've had broadband down there for ages

It's got to the stage where wireless providers don't pre-advertise where they are going to roll out next because "by coincidence" eircom is likely to upgrade that exchange next.

MajorMax

This annoys me.

We live in a country with a third world health service, a justice system that has no justice and Fianna FAIL sold us to ze Germans and people are bleating that their DSL is slow

Pity about ye

krudler

RoyalMarine wrote: »

I will never use another eircom service. I will also never let a family or friend do the same.

Too much trouble, shíte speeds with expensive packages, line rental is a joke in this day and age and congestion is just utter shíte come 5pm onwards. Latency ruins any chance of online gaming, and their customer service is horrendous.

I had to cancel my BB before, and the cancellation department asked me 4 times on the call if I would like to buy a phone off them.

Same, had them once through necessity because our area wasn't set up for UPC, good jesus, often it was faster to use my phone to tether than it was their "next gen broadband". when I cancelled it they tried to tell me because they "upgraded" my service a few months earlier (without telling me) that I was in a new contract, asked where I was contacted to verbally agree or give written confirmation of this and they said it was sent out (never got it) and that by not agreeing to NOT take the recontract I was in fact agreeing to it.
I work for a company that deals with contracts all the time and called them out on it and their bullsh1t, which they quickly backpeddled on, then had to explain to one of their agents how pro-rata billing works after they tried to bill me for a month after I cancelled it.

Hands down the worst company in Ireland to deal with. between their ridiculous IVR system, their pig ignorant staff and their shady practices I'll never be with them again, I'd rather have no broadband.

krudler

MajorMax wrote: »

This annoys me.

We live in a country with a third world health service, a justice system that has no justice and Fianna FAIL sold us to ze Germans and people are bleating that their DSL is slow

Pity about ye

Decent internet is an essential for a lot of people for various reasons, its a valid complaint as any, doesnt mean nobody cared about other issues too. there's a million threads on here complaining about all the stuff you mentioned too.

Thatnastyboy

MajorMax wrote: »

This annoys me.

We live in a country with a third world health service, a justice system that has no justice and Fianna FAIL sold us to ze Germans and people are bleating that their DSL is slow

Pity about ye

Get up the fcuking yard will ye,

3rd world health service my bolix, go to a third world hospital and come back and tell me ours are the same.

There is justice in the justice system, but its flawed, like most countries, but the benefit of the doubt is given, unlike other countries where your head/hands/legs could be taken from you for fcuk all, without any evidence.

Nobody sold me buddy, or you for that matter.


Also, its a thread about broadband, not the stuff you're bolixing on about, there's plenty appropriate threads you can pour your bleeding heart into.

I hate this constant poor me poor us, better slag the banks and fianna fail, if you dont like it that much, either fcuk off outta the place or do something about it.

stimpson

krudler wrote: »

Hands down the worst company in Ireland to deal with. between their ridiculous IVR system, their pig ignorant staff and their shady practices I'll never be with them again, I'd rather have no broadband.

Ah, I won't have that! Vodafone are worse. I had the same argument about what constitutes a contract with both Eircon and Vodafone, and got a debt collection agency involved. Baxtards of the highest order.

Fun and games with both are on the Talk to threads :

http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056895700/1

http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2056834307/1

Pilotdude5

Just did a speedtest. I got 0.23Mpbs download.

Sigh.

Gummy Panda

Since getting UPC 150meg broadband, my right paw has developed into a rigid claw

holystungun9

Lando Griffin wrote: »

There still has to be a story about a lad with a JCB to ruin it for a few weeks

That'll be John Jo. I give it two weeks max.

meoklmrk91

No I'm not because I don't live in an area where I will ever get fibre and well UPC have been providing this service for years so its not like its an exiting new technology.

Also if Eircom were offering 100meg bb in my area for a tenner a month I still wouldn't go with them, they suck on every level and I would rather eat my own face than sign a contract with them.

Cantona's Collars

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

No I'm not because I don't live in an area where I will ever get fibre and well UPC have been providing this service for years so its not like its an exiting new technology.

Also if Eircom were offering 100meg bb in my area for a tenner a month I still wouldn't go with them, they suck on every level and I would rather eat my own face than sign a contract with them.

Simply go with another provider,I'm with Vodafone and I'm getting fibre next month.

kingtiger

delighted the fibre is coming


but its nuts that we have to pay line rental

even if you don't want a landline

meoklmrk91

zerks wrote: »

Simply go with another provider,I'm with Vodafone and I'm getting fibre next month.

I live in a rural area, I highly doubt that I will be getting fibre anytime before I get 4G.

wuzziwig

I live in a comms black hole too. I'm 5 miles from the biggest town in the county and all I can get is a very dodgy 3G mobile broadband service from 3. Vodafone and O2 won't work. We are on an Eircom exchange which wasn't (and never will be by the looks of it) upgraded for broadband. I get about 10 minutes surfing time before my connection falls over, the modem has to be rebooted and can be used again for another 10 minutes.

Thank God we have fibre broadband at work so at least I have some proper Internet access. Eircom should really sort out their crappy customer service and upgrade the rest of their exchanges before they start trying to play with the big boys.

MajorMax

Thatnastyboy wrote: »

Get up the fcuking yard will ye,

3rd world health service my bolix, go to a third world hospital and come back and tell me ours are the same.

There is justice in the justice system, but its flawed, like most countries, but the benefit of the doubt is given, unlike other countries where your head/hands/legs could be taken from you for fcuk all, without any evidence.

Nobody sold me buddy, or you for that matter.


Also, its a thread about broadband, not the stuff you're bolixing on about, there's plenty appropriate threads you can pour your bleeding heart into.

I hate this constant poor me poor us, better slag the banks and fianna fail, if you dont like it that much, either fcuk off outta the place or do something about it.

Well "Buddy"
you clearly haven't spent any time recently in either an emergency or court room. I have in both and what I saw and experienced beggars belief. (Off topic -I didn't know horse worrying was still a crime)
You saying that you haven't been sold is naive at best and ignores all evidence. Our children and our children's children will be paying the mortgage for our country for decades to come and like any mortgage, until you've paid it off the bank owns your house. Anything elde is wishful thinking
Stay lucky!

Super-Rush

God i hate that term "rollout"

kowloon

I'll get excited when 'unlimited' broadband packages are exactly that.

krudler

kowloon wrote: »

I'll get excited when 'unlimited' broadband packages are exactly that.

think ours is 500gb, have come close a few times but even at that your average user will never go near that. I dunno how people survive on mobile allowances, 15gb? I'd use that in a day

John.Icy

krudler wrote: »

think ours is 500gb, have come close a few times but even at that your average user will never go near that. I dunno how people survive on mobile allowances, 15gb? I'd use that in a day

Whole family on 10GB a month and have never come near it. That's with several smartphones, laptops and a desktop.

Think somebody needs a life...

Ruu

Got a letter from IOL today, getting cut off from 'Surf No Limits'.

ted1

Einstein wrote: »

No waiting here! Already got it thanks to Magnet BB

Eircon should concentrate on making even the 1MB BB available to all customers....

The fact that there's still people in this country, that can't access Broadband because of their location is an absolute joke.

Not really if you choose to live in the sticks you should accept that its make no financial sense for any company to kay fibre optics to your door

ted1

kingtiger wrote: »

delighted the fibre is coming


but its nuts that we have to pay line rental

even if you don't want a landline

If your not going to rent the line, then who will pay for it?

Fighting Irish

John.Icy wrote: »

Whole family on 10GB a month and have never come near it. That's with several smartphones, laptops and a desktop.

Think somebody needs a life...

Think someone needs to realize the amount of porn that has to be downloaded