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Breaking:Large explosion at public event in Boston***Mod warning in OP**

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  • #1562
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    super_furry wrote: »
    Isn't there usually a host of groups jumping to claim responsibility for these things? The fact that no-one has come forward yet would lead me to think that it could be a home-grown nut.

    I think it's domestic too. If it was Al-Qaeda, I don't think they'd have any problem claiming responsibility.


  • #1563
    Soby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    Didnt say much about the man on the roof photo


  • #1564
    rebel girl 15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,247 ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    VinLieger wrote: »
    In work so cant watch, any more new info from the press conference?

    Number injured is over 150

    f**king Sky - cannot hear the questions because they are playing the video - I'm now watching on Al Jazerra

    Nearly a slip by the FBI SAC, sounds like they could have someone in custody. A reporter in the audience had two names, and asked if they were in hospital being guarded


  • #1565
    SB2013
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    dfx- wrote: »
    I don't quite understand the denigration of the device as "unsophisticated".

    It looks like it did exactly what it was designed to do. Low level extensive injuries and to be very visible - like the bus bomb in 2005 became the image of the attack despite the main focus of the attack being the underground.

    It means it did not require a lot of expertise to assemble.


  • #1566
    Kerrydude1981
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    I think it's domestic too. If it was Al-Qaeda, I don't think they'd have any problem claiming responsibility.

    Ya and an Al-Qaeda attack as we have seen in the past would have been more large scale,this has to be the doing of a domestic nut job.


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  • #1567
    Soby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    rebel girl 15 wrote: »
    Number injured is over 150

    f**king Sky - cannot hear the questions because they are playing the video.

    Nearly a slip by the FBI SAC, sounds like they could have someone in custody. A reporter in the audience had two names, and asked if they were in hospital being guarded

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056927108&page=157


  • #1568
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    danniemcq wrote: »
    I dunno i'm still thinking lone wolf, seeking attention for a cause. that could explain the low explosive charge. Looking for maximum pubicity for themselves.

    perhaps in biased in hoping that religion isn't involved in this but it just doesn't seem that way to me

    I'm guessing lone wolf, or at least a small unorganised group, too (but that does include religious extremists).

    Purely speculative of course.


  • #1569
    rebel girl 15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,247 ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    FBI SAC wouldn't make any mention about the device when questioned on it. EOD sweep an hour before the race did not find anything


  • #1570
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Hopefully it remains as wild speculation. There's a bit of talk about the possibility on Twitter also. Jim Allister mentioned parallels between the events of yesterday and those in the North.

    Literally anything Jim Allister says can be discounted. In fact it's pretty pathetic him pushing that agenda in light of this incident, it's about as cheap as it gets. There are no parallels, we can safely discount the IRA for any number of reasons.


  • #1571
    rebel girl 15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,247 ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Police commissioner saying 176 people injured, 17 critical with 3 fatalities

    FBI’s Richard DesLauriers: This will be a worldwide investigation, we will go to the ends of the earth to identify those involved.


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  • #1572
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »
    In moments like this I really hate Twitter. I found the following comment when I went around doing a search:



    That particular tweet has received 4,500 retweets. Job done. Thousands of people now think that a girl died. Some innocent girl has become the poster child of online 'retweet for respect' campaigns. And the above tweeter succeeded in extracting every last retweet out of the contrived situation.

    There are some absolute fools on the internet. It amazes me that people don't bother doing a quick search for information. It would take 20 seconds to find out that it was a boy and not a girl.

    I saw a tweet that happened to be retweeted by someone I was following saying:

    "For every RT we'll donate $1 to help the victims of the bombings."

    Wtf? Who the fcuk decides that they're going to try and capitalize off such a tragedy?? And thousands of people retweeted it...


  • #1573
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    All we can do now is speculate based on the evidence.
    The fact that there were at least four bombs hints at some sort of coordination and organisation. One person could not carry four gunpowder based bombs and navigate whatever security was there.
    But the fact that the damage was relatively low from the two explosions and that two did not explode tells me that this is some amateur domestic fruitcake using low technology.
    But this is just speculation.


  • #1574
    Vicar in a tutu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Vicar in a tutu


    I reckon it was a local nutcase that done this, Such a sad thing though, it makes me sick especially since a child died, so many innocent people and children caught up. Nobody would of expected this at all:( Why would anybody do this. A marathon is so unnoffensive too. Hopefully there's no more fatalities.


  • #1575
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    The fact that there were at least four bombs

    There were only two bombs, the two that detonated.

    No other bombs were discovered.


  • #1576
    rebel girl 15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,247 ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Figures from MGH

    34 patients (all spectators), 31 injured. 10 treated and release, 12 admitted, 9 transferred to walk in clinic, 5 of those treated for eye injuries.

    Of the 12 admitted, in a stable condition, some in ICU - 8 in severe condition after undergoing major operations including 4 amputations, with two more limbs at risk, severe wounds to lower body from blast effect of bomb and small metallic framents - nails and pellets. Variety of sharp objects found in patients body - mutiple metallic fragments in them. Think they came from the bomb, but cannot be exactly sure

    Nationality - all Americans. Age range 28-71.


  • #1577
    WayneMolloy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Seachmall wrote: »
    If you heard there was going to be a bomb planted on a plane and were given two suspects, one an elderly white Christian female and the other a 25 year old Saudi-born Muslim, you'd be irrational to suggest they're equally likely the culprit.

    That doesn't make you sexist, ageist, or racist. It means you've a rational and informed opinion on who poses the greatest threat in this situation.

    Exactly.

    I was abroad when I heard about 7/7. My first thoughts were - the poor victims. Second - I f*cking hope that this was not an Irish based attack.

    Does that make me racist against myself?


  • #1578
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Kerrydude1981 wrote: »
    Ya and an Al-Qaeda attack as we have seen in the past would have been more large scale,this has to be the doing of a domestic nut job.

    Yeah, I think if Al-Qaeda were going to strike in the US again, they'd go big. A marathon would be a strange choice of event for them too.

    Has the stuff on the Saudi national just turned out to be good ol' racism?


  • #1579
    donvito99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    I happened to be watching SkyNews on 7/7 as events transpired. It was originally reported as some sort of electrical fault on the tube. Obviously it unfolded very quickly after that.


  • #1580
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    I saw a tweet that happened to be retweeted by someone I was following saying:

    "For every RT we'll donate $1 to help the victims of the bombings."

    Wtf? Who the fcuk decides that they're going to try and capitalize off such a tragedy?? And thousands of people retweeted it...

    I've no idea. But whoever started the "1 like = 1 prayer" and other such crazes should be shouldering a lot of the blame. I'm religious, but that's ridiculous. The people who like those photos don't give two ****s about it.

    I've come across another disappointing trend on Twitter: that picture of the man holding the woman's head on the ground. Someone decided that it wasn't sad enough as it was so they had to add in that he was going to propose to her. Again, search for "he was going to propose" and the first tweet has 3,500 RTs.


  • #1581
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    What leads could be gathered from the two unexploded devices? I imagine they'd be key in finding out who did it?


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  • #1582
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,351 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Since it wasn't suicide bombers i doubt it was fundamentalist muslims. I'm guessing some local nutjob.


  • #1583
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    Does that make me racist against myself?
    I'm afraid it does.

    However, being as your the victim of such shocking racism, you probably get a pass.


  • #1584
    danniemcq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Seachmall wrote: »
    I'm guessing lone wolf, or at least a small unorganised group, too (but that does include religious extremists).

    Purely speculative of course.

    hey i'm not calling you out on it don't worry, at the minute speculation is all i'm doing too!


  • #1585
    rebel girl 15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,247 ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Interesting to hear that EOD did a sweep in the morning and then an hour before the first runner came through - either they missed both of the bombs, or it gives them a solid timeline to work with, and they are suggesting the bombs were brought it after that last sweep. The doctors described the devices as a crude device, pellets and nails in the device that was down low by the ground given the injuries to lower limbs that occured


  • #1586
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Witchie wrote: »
    Have had to put a post on FB asking people not to post pics of injuries etc. I dont want to see them. If they do they will be unfriended. So annoyed at some people seeming to delight in the whole tragedy.

    I understand that it's not very nice to look at, but it's essential to understand what has happened. You will know the full extent of the injuries these poor people suffered. Are you linking your last sentence to people posting pictures of the injuries?
    rebel girl 15 wrote: »
    Every officer at the press conference looking for all photographic and video evidence

    It's going to be a huge part of the investigation and could develop many leads for the FBI to investigate. When events like this happen, media is very important.


  • #1587
    Am Chile
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Am Chile


    First off my thoughts are with everyone in boston at this present moment-word has it that alex jones and some other conspiracy nuts are already claiming all sorts of conspiracies even before the facts are fully established - you have to wonder if these people actually believe half of what they claim or if they just make accusations to get hits and rating on their internet shows.


  • #1588
    WayneMolloy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I'm afraid it does.

    However, being as your the victim of such shocking racism, you probably get a pass.

    If a bombing occurred in the U.K. - thinking that it may be an Irish based attack is not racist.

    Look at the history ffs.


  • #1589
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Seachmall wrote: »
    There were only two bombs, the two that detonated.

    No other bombs were discovered.

    You had better tell Boston police commissioner Ed Davis that because he is saying otherwise.


  • #1590
    EuskalHerria
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    rebel girl 15 wrote: »
    Interesting to hear that EOD did a sweep in the morning and then an hour before the first runner came through - either they missed both of the bombs, or it gives them a solid timeline to work with, and they are suggesting the bombs were brought it after that last sweep. The doctors described the devices as a crude device, pellets and nails in the device that was down low by the ground given the injuries to lower limbs that occured

    Probably why they have made numerous calls for all photographs and videos to be sent to the FBI. Who ever is responsible must have been there shortly before they detonated and eerily, in this day and age, has inadvertently been captured by a pro or amateur photographer or on video.


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  • #1591
    EuskalHerria
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    Am Chile wrote: »
    First off my thoughts are with everyone in boston at this present moment-word has it that alex jones and some other conspiracy nuts are already claiming all sorts of conspiracies even before the facts are fully established - you have to wonder if these people actually believe half of what they claim or if they just make accusations to get hits and rating on their internet shows.

    They had one of their tin foil hat wearing lunatics at the press conference last night shouting ridiculous questions at the governor that was speaking.

    It's catch 22, they shouldn't have to respond to their idiocy but if they don't calls of censorship are made as if to back up their insane claims.


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