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    #3122
    Joe Hart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Joe Hart


    scudzilla wrote: »
    I bet you're one of those guys who goes to a show and boo's the second it goes to the ground, i find this idiotic as 2 guys with a great ground game rolling round is a joy to behold

    Does that happen? I can see why that would annoy purists but for the average man on the street I'm sure they want to see big standup knockouts. Can't understand the popularity of UFC in america.
    This makes no sense.
    The striking is tame in comparison to boxing or K1. These guys spend 100% of their time punching/ striking. MMA guys have to dedicate a lot of time to groundwork. MMA guys don't seem to have decent chins either and go down handy enough.


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    #3123
    Scar Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Scar Tissue


    Joe Hart wrote: »

    The striking is tame in comparison to boxing or K1. These guys spend 100% of their time punching/ striking. MMA guys have to dedicate a lot of time to groundwork.MMA guys don't seem to have decent chins either and go down handy enough.

    Wow, just.... wow.


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    #3124
    Joe Hart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Joe Hart


    Scar Tissue wrote: »
    Wow, just.... wow.

    Care to argue against my points? You have some many that only train in striking when they first converted from a wrestling discipline. Compare that to a boxer or thai boxer that has been striking since 5 years of age. You can't compare the two. There are only a certain number of hours in the day and if you spend half it on the ground your strikes are going to suffer.


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    #3125
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,150 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Joe Hart wrote: »
    The striking is tame in comparison to boxing or K1. These guys spend 100% of their time punching/ striking. MMA guys have to dedicate a lot of time to groundwork. MMA guys don't seem to have decent chins either and go down handy enough.

    Again, this makes no sense!


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    #3126
    Scar Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭Scar Tissue


    Joe Hart wrote: »
    Care to argue against my points? You have some many that only train in striking when they first converted from a wrestling discipline. Compare that to a boxer or thai boxer that has been striking since 5 years of age. You can't compare the two. There are only a certain number of hours in the day and if you spend half it on the ground your strikes are going to suffer.

    What makes you think MMA guys have poor chins? Tell that to JDs, Roy Nelson or Mark Hunt (to pick 3 very roughly off the top of my head). Ridiculous statement, though I'm not all that surprised recently pal


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    #3127
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,150 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Joe Hart wrote: »
    Care to argue against my points?

    Why would anyone argue your points? You are just saying things with absolutely no base in reality.

    If you had something to back up your statements, there might be a discussion here. But saying things like MMA fighters haven't got as good of a chin as Boxers is frankly absurd!


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    #3128
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Not to back seat mod here but people need to stop replying to Joe. Not saying he's a troll, just saying he's adding nothing to this thread/forum.


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    #3129
    Jayo_M
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Jayo_M


    Joe Hart wrote: »
    I'm more of a K1 fan. I think the striking in MMA is fairly tame and seems to be largely for show. I get instantly bored when it goes to ground.

    If you find MMA so tedious, and are so unimpressed, why are you bothered posting in this forum? Is it just to get a rise out of MMA enthusiasts? Because that is how it is coming across. It doesn't seem like you want to 'learn', because as you stated, you find it boring, so you probably don't have much interest in it?

    If you're a kickboxing fan, why not shoot over to the Martial Arts & Self Defence forum and contribute there? Not enough professional kickboxing threads over there, in my opinion. You might actually be able to contribute something over there, because you clearly can't on this forum.


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    #3130
    Be like Nutella
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    I actually still don't think the lad's a troll but jaysus he's annoying the crap outa me haha right enough Joe feckin Hart for one day... onwards and upwards


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    #3131
    RainMaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 459 ✭✭RainMaker


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    #3132
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,150 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Joe Hart is just mad because he has dandruff!


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    #3133
    Joe Hart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Joe Hart


    Jayo_M wrote: »
    If you find MMA so tedious, and are so unimpressed, why are you bothered posting in this forum? Is it just to get a rise out of MMA enthusiasts? Because that is how it is coming across. It doesn't seem like you want to 'learn', because as you stated, you find it boring, so you probably don't have much interest in it?

    If you're a kickboxing fan, why not shoot over to the Martial Arts & Self Defence forum and contribute there? Not enough professional kickboxing threads over there, in my opinion. You might actually be able to contribute something over there, because you clearly can't on this forum.

    I've already changed a few of my opinions based on some of the videos I was shown. I hope some of you are open to considering my opinions.

    Anyway....regarding chins.
    The guy CmcG fought. At that weight division going down after 70s to a debutant is fairly remarkable.


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    #3134
    Be like Nutella
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    hahahaha awww man the thing is he's givin me a good laugh at least


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    #3135
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,150 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Joe Hart wrote: »
    I've already changed a few of my opinions based on some of the videos I was shown. I hope some of you are open to considering my opinions.

    Anyway....regarding chins.
    The guy CmcG fought. At that weight division going down after 70s to a debutant is fairly remarkable.

    You're right.

    After all, a Boxer or a Kick-Boxer has never been knocked down inside 70 seconds.

    I once was blind, but now I see!


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    #3136
    darced
    Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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    #3137
    adamski8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    Joe Hart wrote: »
    I'm more of a K1 fan. I think the striking in MMA is fairly tame and seems to be largely for show. I get instantly bored when it goes to ground.

    You know one of the most prolific HW K1 champs is in the UFC and he got KO last time he fought


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    #3138
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Joe Hart wrote: »
    I'm more of a K1 fan. I think the striking in MMA is fairly tame and seems to be largely for show. I get instantly bored when it goes to ground.

    Ok you're a K1 fan, you have no respect or appreciation (it would seem) to any aspect of MMA.. Tbh I think you're on a wind up here, with that in mind I'm going to ban you from posting in this thread.

    Failure to comply with this will result in your banning from the forum.

    Everyone else, stop feeding him.


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    #3139
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users Posts: 12,430 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    I was just reading about a guy who died after an unregulated bout in Michigan on Saturday night. It doesn't say he died of his injuries or anything but that he just dropped after the fight. Very sad news anyway.

    LINK


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    #3140
    Be like Nutella
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    looks like he lasted 2 rounds, then lost by TKO in the third and walked away seemingly ok then collapsed after and wasn't revived. Not enough known yet it seems. Very sad alright. Nobody turns up at an MMA event to fight thinking they could die and no fighter has died in a regulated event ever... but either way grass roots MMA events all over the world happen all the time and I'm 100% sure SOME of the unregulated ones shouldn't happen at all for lack of experience or proper reffing or other safety concerns which I imagine are quite complex when you're running a show. Whether this had anything to do with why this fighter died we don't know yet it seems but either way it's very sad to hear somebody dying, possibly from doing what they love.


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    #3141
    Be like Nutella
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    from pics I've seen he spent time on the ground under full mount but got up under his own power after he lost. He may have been a bit older than some articles are reporting, I saw him listed at 43 years old somewhere and that may end up an important factor if he was put in with a younger guy at that level of MMA. Either way it's the refs job to stop it but I'd say it isn't easy when you've possibly got two fighters who can't stop each other and who are possibly gassed after a round. The flip side is that punches are less powerful once guys gas but then again these were heavy weights so mounted punches still bring their heavy weight down on their opponent no matter how tired they may be which makes reffing a HW grass roots MMA fight necessarily difficult and in need of a good experienced ref... I'd imagine.


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    #3142
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,542 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    TUF Spoilers!

    F*ckin hell! See what
    Uriah Hall
    did!

    Spoilers for anyone watching TUF

    http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/756246321.gif


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    #3143
    JJayoo
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Damn.


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    #3144
    Ian Whelan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Ian Whelan


    Gunnar Nelson out of UFC 160 with an injury.


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    #3145
    scudzilla
    Registered Users Posts: 11,911 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Ian Whelan wrote: »
    Gunnar Nelson out of UFC 160 with an injury.

    Pooballs


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    #3146
    SDTimeout
    Registered Users Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    You know I had just forgotten about Gunni for a few days with Conor then got so excited for his night fight. Such a shame.


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    #3147
    dave1982
    Registered Users Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    TUF Spoilers!

    F*ckin hell! See what
    Uriah Hall
    did!

    Spoilers for anyone watching TUF

    http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/756246321.gif

    **** I have my days mixed up, I thought that was tonight


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    #3148
    Lenin Skynard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    dave1982 wrote: »
    Holy **** who leaked that?:eek:

    It was on TV yesterday.


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    #3149
    dave1982
    Registered Users Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Lenin Skynard wrote: »
    It was on TV yesterday.

    Had my days mixed up :rolleyes:

    looking forward to this :D

    I thought it was leaked, last guy to leak TUF spoilers is still paying for it with Dana


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    #3150
    FreezeUp
    Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭FreezeUp


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    TUF Spoilers!

    F*ckin hell! See what
    Uriah Hall
    did!

    Spoilers for anyone watching TUF

    http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/756246321.gif

    Jesus...


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    #3151
    stuchyg
    Registered Users Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭stuchyg


    Does Gunni train in Dublin if he is working with McGregor


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