HMV closing (again)

25-03-2013 04:30PM

wampyrus77 wrote: »

im not making it up have tower records in O'Connell street, dublin they charge you there for the 23% tax added at the till.

Pure and utter crap you're spouting. Grabbed some vinyl there last month and paid sticker price. There was no added tax at the till. Post up a picture of your receipt and prove it as otherwise you are a liar.

wampyrus77 · 25-03-2013 04:34PM

jaykay74 wrote: »

Sorry, thats a lie. Some proof please.

i still have the receipt

jaykay74 · 25-03-2013 04:45PM

wampyrus77 wrote: »

i still have the receipt

well then you're one step closer to backing up your point.

Technocentral · 25-03-2013 07:54PM

Ignore that wamy guy, he brought that nonsense up a few months ago and was "schooled" then too.

Technocentral · 25-03-2013 07:58PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Pure and utter crap you're spouting. Grabbed some vinyl there last month and paid sticker price. There was no added tax at the till. Post up a picture of your receipt and prove it as otherwise you are a liar.

Or if it was true bring the item(s) and receipt back to Tower for a refund, as I stated a few months back when he started this nonsense I have bought a number of vinyls there at sticker price recently, for example a Flaming Lips album that had 16.99 on the cover and was, guess what? 16.99 at the till of course.

25-03-2013 08:16PM

Technocentral wrote: »

Ignore that wamy guy, he brought that nonsense up a few months ago and was "schooled" then too.

Perhaps the employee he dealt with was a member of Cobra and wanted to get one over a real GI Joe fan.

He's repeatedly mentioned the receipt and still having it so lets hope he posts it up for us all to see or at the very least let us know what he bought so that one of us can try and buy it next time were in the store.

johnny_ultimate · 25-03-2013 08:32PM

OK folks, please report a post when you have a problem with it rather than ganging up and attacking the poster. We are keeping an eye on the thread.

wampryus, please only make accusations of this sort of if you can provide photographic proof of the receipt. Any other posts on the subject without evidence will be deleted.

pixelburp · 25-03-2013 08:44PM

Back on track: it's not directly related to HMV as such, but it seems there might yet be some respite for traders struggling with the ludicrous, upward-only rents on Grafton St

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0325/378314-bewleys-grafton-st-rent-must-fall-to-market-value/

JJ · 05-04-2013 09:06AM

According to Sky News, HMV may have a rescue plan that would include the Henry St shop re-opening:

http://news.sky.com/story/1074101/hmv-rescue-hilco-deal-to-save-jobs-and-shops

johndoe99 · 05-04-2013 10:24AM

16 shops was a bit much to keep open in our economic times, i hope they re-open at least 5 and position them about the country so they'd be within a short reach of all counties.

Greenmachine · 05-04-2013 10:29AM

JJ wrote: »

According to Sky News, HMV may have a rescue plan that would include the Henry St shop re-opening:

http://news.sky.com/story/1074101/hmv-rescue-hilco-deal-to-save-jobs-and-shops

Believe this when I see it. They stripped the irish stores of their stock to loosen the noose on the English company. Don't believe for a second that none of their Irish store were returning a profit.

Marty McFly · 05-04-2013 01:04PM

RTE reporting it aswell, there's hope yet.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0405/379808-hmv-in-the-uk-may-be-rescued-in-a-new-deal/

wampyrus77 · 05-04-2013 07:57PM

when hmv reopens they rehire all staff previous owners of the jobs were lost when it close down

Bullseye1 · 05-04-2013 08:51PM

Is the Henry St one the only one mentioned?

Marty McFly · 05-04-2013 08:59PM

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Is the Henry St one the only one mentioned?

The RTE story says landlords , they also saved 25 stores in England which were due to close. So fingers crossed they will save at least a few here.

05-04-2013 09:01PM

wampyrus77 wrote: »

when hmv reopens they rehire all staff previous owners of the jobs were lost when it close down

Not necessarily true as many of the stores in the UK are operating with smaller staff do as to cut down on costs.

Any chance you could upload the Tower Records receipt you have spoke about? Talking to a guy who works there and he's curious to see it as he will happily refund you the 23% if you really were conned

05-04-2013 09:04PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

The RTE story says landlords , they also saved 25 stores in England which were due to close. So fingers crossed they will save at least a few here.

Love to see Galway reopen, its sad that you cant walk into the city and pick up a few DVDs. Sure Xtravision has a few and there's that OMG shop but the selection in both is atrocious.

06-04-2013 03:44AM

They are launching a new website in the coming weeks which is fantastic as amazon took the closure of HMV as a reason to jack up the price of all media. New releases went up by 3 and 4 pound in some cases and further increases were to be expected given that atm Amazon pretty much have a monopoly on online music and films and haven't been afraid to cash in on it.

It also appears to be the case that they plan on reopening a number of the Irish stores and not just the one in Dublin. Would make sense for them to have 5 or 6 stores around the country, one in Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Cork, etc.

the past few months have been torturous for film fans who look outside the multiplexes for their entertainment as so many smaller distributors have had to cancel releases and without HMV their futures were in doubt. There was a good chance that had HMV been let fail we would have seen Masters of Cinema, Cine Asia, etc follow suit. Be nice to be able to head into town on a Friday afternoon, spend a few minutes browsing and come away with a few films. It's one if life's small treats and far more enjoyable than sitting at home and using amazon.

wampyrus77 · 06-04-2013 12:44PM

i reopens soon before this summer, because still stock in those stores seating up their shevles ready for selling again

06-04-2013 01:13PM

wampyrus77 wrote: »

i reopens soon before this summer, because still stock in those stores seating up their shevles ready for selling again

The stores are all cleaned out and have been for weeks.

Atlantic Dawn · 06-04-2013 01:20PM

They would be far better off letting the Grafton Street Store go, €1million plus rent being demanded is unsustainable. I'm sure there's more suitable properties in the city centre at less rent. The Grafton Street Store had rubbish stairs and layoutwise as a music store was only suitable to be levelled.

ray2012 · 06-04-2013 01:24PM

I miss HMV in Galway. Walking past the place where it used to be is quite depressing! :P

Marty McFly · 06-04-2013 01:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

They are launching a new website in the coming weeks which is fantastic as amazon took the closure of HMV as a reason to jack up the price of all media. New releases went up by 3 and 4 pound in some cases and further increases were to be expected given that atm Amazon pretty much have a monopoly on online music and films and haven't been afraid to cash in on it.

It also appears to be the case that they plan on reopening a number of the Irish stores and not just the one in Dublin. Would make sense for them to have 5 or 6 stores around the country, one in Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Cork, etc.

the past few months have been torturous for film fans who look outside the multiplexes for their entertainment as so many smaller distributors have had to cancel releases and without HMV their futures were in doubt. There was a good chance that had HMV been let fail we would have seen Masters of Cinema, Cine Asia, etc follow suit. Be nice to be able to head into town on a Friday afternoon, spend a few minutes browsing and come away with a few films. It's one if life's small treats and far more enjoyable than sitting at home and using amazon.

Here here, I do often order my Blu Rays online but there nothing better than an impromptu pop into HMV next thing you know your walking out with 5 or 6 films in a bag all set for a nights viewing

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Personally im hoping they decide to keep the one in Liffey Valley open :cool:.

wampyrus77 · 06-04-2013 06:31PM

hmv is back to reopens

http://entertainment...open/175130.htm

Fysh · 06-04-2013 10:32PM

wampyrus77 wrote: »

hmv is back to reopens

http://entertainment...open/175130.htm

The link in your post was mangled, for some reason - the page can be found here.

In saying that, there's really nothing new in that statement that hasn't already been said before - it was already known that HMV in the UK would at least partially be saved (over 100 stores, though the number has gone up from the first announcement when Hilco got involved), and they've already been talking about reviving the Irish operation.

pixelburp · 07-04-2013 11:37AM

Some news outlets have been more definitive with their language of the Grafton store re-opening than others; tbh I would be wary of any site that reports things with 100% certainty because clearly they only have the same info everyone else has; best to see how this apparent rescue plan plays out before we assume too much.

I was in town late last week and there's no doubt I miss drifting into the Grafton HMV and browsing their offers and deals. Personally I think they should pare back some of the stock & go back to basics - stick to film & music, shelve their games & gadgets sections (the games section was always pretty poorly stocked anyway)

johnny_ultimate · 07-04-2013 12:01PM

pixelburp wrote: »

I was in town late last week and there's no doubt I miss drifting into the Grafton HMV and browsing their offers and deals. Personally I think they should pare back some of the stock & go back to basics - stick to film & music, shelve their games & gadgets sections (the games section was always pretty poorly stocked anyway)

Oh God no! If HMV does return, IMO the major benefit will be making the gaming market competitive again. They were always the most attractively priced for new releases (which admittedly might not be the case if they did come back), and oftentimes the best for bargains. I work near Stephen's Green, and Gamestop is the only game store near me - and I refuse to shop there because of the outrageous pricing compared to Smyths and other stores. In the year or two before closure, I found myself turning more and more to online for film because of price and selection (the world cinema selection in HMV, for example, was always super limited) but found it a go to store for games. That's where IMO its high street presence is most missed.

Also, a lot of reports are citing the Henry Street branch as one of the more likely to be rescued in the event of a relaunch - and I had heard that they were surprisingly the most profitable of the Dublin branches despite the smaller sized premises.

pixelburp · 07-04-2013 12:19PM

Hmm, World Cinema seemed fined in Grafton last time I ran across it, or as good as any section covering every non-English-speaking region can realistically be

Tbh, I'd be the opposite to yourself: most films having been purchased in-store (TV not so much given how hard it can be to get US or discontinued shows) & I can't honestly remember the last time I bought a game offline (admittedly I don't own a console so adherence to digital purchasing is easier / more natural)

Besides, I'd much rather HMV go back to its roots, become focused & competent within the traditional band of TV & film, than try to be all things to all men again. Film & TV is still intrinsically linked with physical media and stores still have an important place within that; gaming on the other hand is clearly drifting from that model & given how much of it now exists in an online environment, I don't see the sense in HMV stocking its shelves with a crazily-expensive product that simply can't compete with digital distribution or the Tescos of this world.

Marty McFly · 07-04-2013 12:27PM

pixelburp wrote: »

Hmm, World Cinema seemed fined in Grafton last time I ran across it, or as good as any section covering every non-English-speaking region can realistically be

Tbh, I'd be the opposite to yourself: most films having been purchased in-store (TV not so much given how hard it can be to get US or discontinued shows) & I can't honestly remember the last time I bought a game offline (admittedly I don't own a console so adherence to digital purchasing is easier / more natural)

Besides, I'd much rather HMV go back to its roots, become focused & competent within the traditional band of TV & film, than try to be all things to all men again. Film & TV is still intrinsically linked with physical media and stores still have an important place within that; gaming on the other hand is clearly drifting from that model & given how much of it now exists in an online environment, I don't see the sense in HMV stocking its shelves with a crazily-expensive product that simply can't compete with digital distribution or the Tescos of this world.

I'm not big into my gaming but for HMV to dismiss that side of the market would be crazy, there is no way it's gone all digital in fact I reckon it would probably be there biggest market, more and more people are illegally downloading there films and music but games for the Xbox and PS3 they can't do that. Look at they hype the new Grand Theft Auto game is generating there will be no downloading of that and you can be sure the amount of pre orders for that will probably surpass that of any movie or music release this year.

I find there world section has always been adequate there never going to stock a lot but they do have a decent selection.

johnny_ultimate · 07-04-2013 12:36PM

Realistically though the console market is still huge, and PC - which is still an enthusiast format, let's be honest, with your occasional PopCap or Sims release excepted - is the only predominantly digital format. Obviously the shift is underway, but the new consoles are built with physical media in mind so we won't see the market disappearing just yet. In fact of all the 'entertainment' media it's probably the most currently profitable for physical retailers - a game shop is more likely to survive than a dedicated film or music one.

As for world cinema, the problem is that HMV focused on lots of stock of cheap produce. So yeah there were plenty of titles you could buy there, but of a very particular type. You'd still get all the ten year old Tartan Extreme titles, but were unlikely to find a release by Eureka or BFI (two publishers I find myself buying an awful lot of release from recently). Tower Records has a much wider, varied selection of world, classic and independent titles - unfortunately they're often much, much cheaper online.

For me HMV had become a decent place to pick up the one in a thousand mainstream or Hollywood release worth buying - but for everything else it was increasingly online.

HMV closing (again)

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