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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    Weathering wrote: »
    Yeah fair enough,I wouldn't classify it as an old parlour game tho. I have mixed emotions on this subject and respect both arguments however I don't agree with thinking one side are morons or daft etc. No real proof can be gained I suppose it's just what you believe

    I don't believe it's subjective in any way, shape or form. You cannot have something which has absolutely no basis and then simply say it is a matter of choice. Until proven otherwise Ouija boards are just a game. As I said anyone trying to take anything more than entertainment from them may as well use a monopoly/chess board as the effects would be the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    I don't believe it's subjective in any way, shape or form. You cannot have something which has absolutely no basis and then simply say it is a matter of choice. Until proven otherwise Ouija boards are just a game. As I said anyone trying to take anything more than entertainment from them may as well use a monopoly/chess board as the effects would be the same.

    You are missing my whole point..proof?? Where is the proof they don't work at all ,certain people believe they have in fact worked for them where is the proof to say this hasn't happened likewise where is the proof to state it did in fact happen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    Weathering wrote: »
    You are missing my whole point..proof?? Where is the proof they don't work at all ,certain people believe they have in fact worked for them where is the proof to say this hasn't happened likewise where is the proof to state it did in fact happen

    What sort of twisted logic is that? This nonsensical thing exists until you can prove it doesn't exist? :eek: The whole point is that it is devoid of logic and common sense. Imagine the idea of dying and wandering round in the afterlife speaking to idiots sitting around a board with letters on it. Like living in a bad episode of countdown or playing scrabble for eternity.

    Yes people have said it has worked for them. At my most optimistic I could say the results would be psychosomatic. The people who buy into it are either simple, suggestible or stricken with grief and looking for answers. None of those really make a good character witness to back this bull$hit up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    Harum scarum. hokem, pokem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    What sort of twisted logic is that? This nonsensical thing exists until you can prove it doesn't exist? :eek: The whole point is that it is devoid of logic and common sense. Imagine the idea of dying and wandering round in the afterlife speaking to idiots sitting around a board with letters on it. Like living in a bad episode of countdown or playing scrabble for eternity.

    Yes people have said it has worked for them. At my most optimistic I could say the results would be psychosomatic. The people who buy into it are either simple, suggestible or stricken with grief and looking for answers. None of those really make a good character witness to back this bull$hit up.

    Yeah but your entire argument is based upon that no one should have an opinion other than it's nonsense and if they do they're just plain stupid,and that they shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion whatsoever unless they think it's rubbish. Who are you to tell someone on what they should or shouldn't believe in?

    There is no Scientific proof to claim it is true,nor is there any to prove it's fake. I can't say if it is real or not,I haven't tried it but I certainly won't belittle anyone who thinks either way. Where's is the logic in belittling someone who doesn't share your views


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    Weathering wrote: »
    Who are you to tell someone on what they should or shouldn't believe in?
    I'm a spirit, speaking to you through Ouija Boards.ie.
    There is no Scientific proof to claim it is true,nor is there any to prove it's fake. I can't say if it is real or not
    I am going to sleep tonight with the hope that scientists around the world are focusing their efforts on more important issues than looking to disprove this tripe and any other nonsensical muck.

    The fact that you think science should for some reason focus its attention on a people dying, their spirtis going on to an afterlife which is basically a waiting room until your relations call on you to leave cryptic messages on a board.
    I certainly won't belittle anyone who thinks either way. Where's is the logic in belittling someone who doesn't share your views

    The logic is simple. People who ignore reason, logic and common sense and choose an easy and stupid option of communicating with the afterlife with a piece of wood with letters on it are the bane of a civilised society and are the type of people who are actively standing in the way of human progression.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Weathering


    I'm a spirit, speaking to you through Ouija Boards.ie.


    I am going to sleep tonight with the hope that scientists around the world are focusing their efforts on more important issues than looking to disprove this tripe and any other nonsensical muck.

    The fact that you think science should for some reason focus its attention on a people dying, their spirtis going on to an afterlife which is basically a waiting room until your relations call on you to leave cryptic messages on a board.



    The logic is simple. People who ignore reason, logic and common sense and choose an easy and stupid option of communicating with the afterlife with a piece of wood with letters on it are the bane of a civilised society and are the type of people who are actively standing in the way of human progression.

    What's that they say about arguing with an Idiot...Obviously you fail to understand my point and you result to insults,cheap shots and totally enlightening views concerning your character...

    You know it all don't you. Yeah a few people who do the ouija board are standing in the way of human progression..for in your words "only a board game" holds some punch doesn't it? To have the power to stop human progression.

    Yeah Scientists are working on other more pressing matters,like that pill for knowitallsyndrome I pray they come up with a cure soon. Night babes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭EuskalHerria


    Weathering wrote: »
    What's that they say about arguing with an Idiot...Obviously you fail to understand my point and you result to insults,cheap shots and totally enlightening views concerning your character...

    You know it all don't you. Yeah a few people who do the ouija board are standing in the way of human progression..for in your words "only a board game" holds some punch doesn't it? To have the power to stop human progression.

    Yeah Scientists are working on other more pressing matters,like that pill for knowitallsyndrome I pray they come up with a cure soon. Night babes

    You what worse than someone who "knows it all" like myself? Someone who uses twisted logic and fools nobody but themselves.

    I understand what you are and were saying. That just because I am so against it doesn't mean that it may not work for others. My point is that it's not a matter of opinion. It's not subjective regardless of what you or I think.

    Also my point about standing in the way of human progression is not in merely belittling others in order to gain a few feet on intellectual high ground. Simply this and many other illogical things are black holes that suck far too many people in. It's an easy option and its a shame that in this day and age that there are still people out there that buy into this nonsense and many other forms like it.

    Your opinion and mine is irrelevant, largely due to the fact that it's simply not a matter of opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭KuriousOranj


    Messed around with a Ouija Board in the 90's as a teenager.House got burgled and my parents were in seperate car crashes all within a few days of doing it.Probably a coincidence,but I wouldn't try it again just in case!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Tried them before and it was crap.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Anyone believe that they can be used to contact the dead?

    Personally I think it's better not to mess with things we don't know anything about.

    I suppose it depends on if one believes in ghosts or not.

    I never seen a ghost in my life but i did have a strange situation while using an Ouija board once. Not sure what to make of it still to this day...

    It was one of those free gaff parties, and there were 5 of us having a few beers in the sitting room and of course someone takes out an Ouija board to try out.

    We tried it for about 30 minutes and nothing happened at all. While the rest of them gave up i started messing with a glass and moving it all over the board and (i know stupid) kept calling for satan to answer or are you there and give me a sign that you are there. I kept this up for 1 minute and then i heard an explosion which was loud enough and which came from the kitchen.

    There was no-one in the kitchen as it was around 1am and we were all in the sitting room but we all looked at each other and we went into the kitchen and had to get a torch and also turn on a separate light there to see what happened.

    When i seen what had happened i was lost. The bulb explosion in the kitchen left the metal scew-in bulb part but the glass exploded and directly below the light was a circular clump of glass. The glass did not spread out all across the floor as it should have with the explosion but it looked like it just landed directly below the light itself and landed in a perfect circle directly below the light.

    If i went in and had seen the light-bulb all over the floor in pieces everywhere then i would just have fobbed it off as a weird blowout but the glass particles where in a perfect circle under the light after we heard the blowout.

    It was just a strange one. I don't believe the Ouija board was the cause/problem, i think the verbal calling of something unknown was the problem. Just my two cent. But it happened the way i said it, so i don't know as i'm still confused till this day.

    The height of the light bulb to the ground was 8 feet so for the glass to explode and land in a perfect circle on the ground beneath it on tiles is a bit odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    zenno wrote: »

    When i seen what had happened i was lost. The bulb explosion in the kitchen left the metal scew-in bulb part but the glass exploded and directly below the light was a circular clump of glass. The glass did not spread out all across the floor as it should have with the explosion but it looked like it just landed directly below the light itself and landed in a perfect circle directly below the light.

    This happened to me a couple of months ago. Light bulb exploded, the base of the bulb melted into the socket and the glass was neatly expulsed in a circle. Nothing particularly strange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    If you contact anything it's your own subconcious, which is what they were originally marketed as, that's why they seem to know things about the people using it. The 'moving' planchette is down to the ideomotor effect. They're toys that people let freak them out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Ah, drunken threads. They're crap when you see them the next morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I personally think the game is a bit daft and it would not interest me to play it.

    The truth of the matter is no one knows for sure if there is an after life or if energy stays around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭MurdyWurdy


    No time for any of that ****e, tbh. I was watching TV the other night and came across a documentary about Ted Bundy. Everything else on was crap so I thought this, could be interesting. Until I realised 5 minutes in they were doing research on him so they could try and "reach him on the other side". It got turned off immediately, would rather start in to space then watch crap like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    I heard once a friend of a friend used one was late one night on a full moon near a cemetary an they asked the spirit to give a sign an the glass started moving and Hitler's skeleton jumped out and started running around screaming at them well they all ran and wen they called the guards da next morning the house had burned down accept for a little patch of floorboard in the shape of a swastika.
    Dont think we should mess with things we dont no anything about which is why i havent read anything about the ideomotor effect because i dont no anything bout it.
    I'm sure that anyone who believes in the existance of the human soul will know that yours died a little typing that. :pac:

    If ouija boards worked we'd all have one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    This happened to me a couple of months ago. Light bulb exploded, the base of the bulb melted into the socket and the glass was neatly expulsed in a circle. Nothing particularly strange

    Interesting. it just looked very strange to be neatly packed in a circle 8 foot under the blowout with no and i mean no particles of glass anywhere in the room, so are you sure there was no particles of glass strewn around on the floor ? It also seemed a bit strange that this occurred exactly at the time i was doing the call messing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    kryogen wrote: »
    I used one to chat to a buddy of mine in Australia, all the cool kids are doing it that way now

    I tried to Skype my dead granny. Had to have the priest bless my wi-max box afterwards. Dont mess with this shi..t!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    I personally think the game is a bit daft and it would not interest me to play it.

    The truth of the matter is no one knows for sure if there is an after life or if energy stays around.

    Well i do believe energy stay's around, because your body is made of it and everything on this planet is made of it so when you die, or anything dies, that energy has to go somewhere doesn't it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    zenno wrote: »
    Well i do believe energy stay's around, because your body is made of it and everything on this planet is made of it so when you die, or anything dies, that energy has to go somewhere doesn't it.


    Yes, energy can not be destroyed, it can change form and be recycled.

    Wither or not that energy can be in a concious form is another matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    I personally think the game is a bit daft and it would not interest me to play it.

    The truth of the matter is no one knows for sure if there is an after life or if energy stays around.

    Since there is no evidence for any of this then it's safe to assume the answer is no. And the plural of anecdote is not evidence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    zenno wrote: »
    Well i do believe energy stay's around, because your body is made of it and everything on this planet is made of it so when you die, or anything dies, that energy has to go somewhere doesn't it.

    What nuttery. Your body isn't made of energy, it's made of matter. It produces energy. When you die it stops producing energy and you start to rot and feed worms and bacteria. The end


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Yes, energy can not be destroyed, it can change form and be recycled.

    Wither or not that energy can be in a concious form is another matter.

    Exactly. it's a tough one for sure. consciousness itself is amazing as we all have it but where the hell does it come from and what energy or unknown electrical field associates itself with it or even does it associate itself with it. pondering for ever in this field.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    What nuttery. Your body isn't made of energy, it's made of matter. It produces energy. When you die it stops producing energy and you start to rot and feed worms and bacteria. The end

    But matter is energy, we are all made of matter and everything you see is matter and gives off energy so i don't understand your point.

    Nope. your brain uses electrical energy to feed your electrical neurons to function and connect healthy.

    Nuttery i.e is for people that have different views on life and when their views are not abiding to social brainwashed acceptance then they are put off into a building to contain them. but who is the real nuts ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    zenno wrote: »
    Well i do believe energy stay's around, because your body is made of it and everything on this planet is made of it so when you die, or anything dies, that energy has to go somewhere doesn't it.

    It goes into hungry worms or up a chimney.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,555 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    zenno wrote: »
    Nuttery i.e is for people that have different views on life and when their views are not abiding to social brainwashed acceptance then they are put off into a building to contain them. but who is the real nuts ?


    the ones who think a piece of wood with some fancy writing on it can help them talk to dead people?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    zenno wrote: »
    But matter is energy, we are all made of matter and everything you see is matter and gives off energy so i don't understand your point.

    Nope. your brain uses electrical energy to feed your electrical neurons to function and connect healthy.

    Nuttery i.e is for people that have different views on life and when their views are not abiding to social brainwashed acceptance then they are put off into a building to contain them. but who is the real nuts ?

    And i dont understand yours. By this logic if you blow up a rock, which is made of matter then is there an after life for rocks?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    zenno wrote: »
    But matter is energy, we are all made of matter and everything you see is matter and gives off energy so i don't understand your point.

    Nope. your brain uses electrical energy to feed your electrical neurons to function and connect healthy.

    Nuttery i.e is for people that have different views on life and when their views are not abiding to social brainwashed acceptance then they are put off into a building to contain them. but who is the real nuts ?

    Matter isn't energy, matter can be converted with energy. This is what happens when you mix a small amount of scientific knowledge with silly notions and superstition. Who is the real nuts? Indeed


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