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Keep Calm And Discuss Retro Generally!

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  • #7472
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I don't know, just find the whole walking from left to right with a limited move set, smacking palette swapped identikit enemies around, all a bit M'eh....
    There are a few exceptions, Aliens and Aliens Vs Predator on arcade hardware, Comix Zone, Knights of the Round, Armored Warriors, Batman Returns... ok, maybe more than a few exceptions, but the reason they are good is that there is always something interesting to looks forward to on the next screen or level.
    Final Fight, Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, Altered Beast, TMNT, Simpsons, all I find mind numbing, only the XMen is almost not dung, and that's because of an interest in the subject matter.

    But, hey, it's only like my opinion.

    Don't want to be pedantic or anything but my beloved Aliens is certainly not a scrolling beat 'em up, you do walk left to right but that's about all it has in common. Great game it is.

    Regarding scrolling beat 'em ups - never overly fond of them myself but still a decent genre. Playing Final Fight in the arcades was good fun.


  • #7473
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,754 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    You are, of course, right, and I stand corrected....
    I don't think my dislike of the genre is anything new, given that it's something that comes up a lot!
    But each to his/her/it's own.
    I used to play Aliens in the Dundrum Bowl a long long time ago, before Quazar, back in 89/90, a group of us from college would bunk off and head down there on the bus, was a blast!


  • #7474
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,435 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I don't know, just find the whole walking from left to right with a limited move set, smacking palette swapped identikit enemies around, all a bit M'eh....
    There are a few exceptions, Aliens and Aliens Vs Predator on arcade hardware, Comix Zone, Knights of the Round, Armored Warriors, Batman Returns... ok, maybe more than a few exceptions, but the reason they are good is that there is always something interesting to looks forward to on the next screen or level.
    Final Fight, Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, Altered Beast, TMNT, Simpsons, all I find mind numbing, only the XMen is almost not dung, and that's because of an interest in the subject matter.

    But, hey, it's only like my opinion.
    And, yes, I do like Halo, and lacklustre FPS on the PS2.......

    Should I beware the Ides of March?
    Will there be a coup?
    Do I have to look out for daggers and my imminent replacement?

    Thing is, there's a huge variety between scrolling beat em ups. Alien Versus Predator plays more like a Capcom fighter. Try playing as Linn, she has a huge bunch of moves.

    Then there are other amazing Capcom ones like The Punisher, Battle Circuit, Dungeons and Dragons...have you ever played IGS PGM beat em ups like Nights of Valour 2 Nine Dragons and The Gladiator?

    The good games in the genre have loads of combos, interesting upgrades and beautiful animation. You don't just walk right pressing one button, you have to get combos and play smart like in a fighter.

    How about Guardian Heroes? Fantastic game once you start to explore it a bit.

    Others (like some of the bad ones you've mentioned) hand have crap animation, no depth and were just thrown together.

    It's like any other genre. To cast it all aside saying pretty much that it's all rubbish is a bit silly to be honest. The only genre you should do that with are football management games :D


  • #7475
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    You are, of course, right, and I stand corrected....
    I don't think my dislike of the genre is anything new, given that it's something that comes up a lot!
    But each to his/her/it's own.
    I used to play Aliens in the Dundrum Bowl a long long time ago, before Quazar, back in 89/90, a group of us from college would bunk off and head down there on the bus, was a blast!

    My favourite arcade game by some margin. Massive nostalgia factor for me also.
    o1s1n wrote: »
    ...The only genre you should do that with are football management games :D

    :eek:

    All that waffle you spouted about AvP being a deep game was just erradicated by the above statement! You've obviously never played the brilliance that is Football Director on the C64. Skip to 45s for 'gameplay' footage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQHwdbTIPgI


    :pac:

    Could never understand how the younger brother could get addicted to it. :confused:


  • #7476
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,435 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The quality of the gameplay, that's incredible! I revoke my previous statement :pac:

    Seriously, just open up Excel, it's more fun!


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  • #7477
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Just the same as being a shmup doesn't necessarily mean a game is any good...being a scrolling beat em up doesn't necessarily mean a game is bad. Each to their own for sure, but damning a whle genre based on certain examples of it only mean you lose out by never playing the good ones :)


  • #7478
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,320 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Those Dungeons and Dragons games are coming to PSN and XBLA. A glorious mix of belt scroller and RPG-lite.


  • #7479
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    I will find and KILL the makers of this buggy piece of **** game.

    No joy in Vmware either:mad:




    Ds9domwars.jpg


  • #7480
    megaten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭megaten


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Kat Bailey is leaving joystiq and moving to a job with EA :( I think that completes the loss of every games journalist who I trusted in one month. She was by far the best journalist around when it came to RPGs and a fellow crusader against Legend of Dragoon. At least jeremy parish at IGN is still writing about obscure stuff.

    Massive Loss. She was one of the few reasonable sounding voices in the games press.

    Also FEZ is coming out for PC in may. What was the verdict on this? From looking at it seems like it could have gone either way.


  • #7481
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,754 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQHwdbTIPgI


    Could never understand how the younger brother could get addicted to it. :confused:

    I had a Spectrum back in the day, I never owned this but someone gave a neighbour a copy.
    This kid was not a friend of mine, and a year or to older.
    So, suddenly, he was in my house regularly for a fortnight, playing this bloody Football Manager game, Kevin Toms was the author afaik.
    And, yup, looked like a dry table of stats to me too, but to football fans it translated into bliss.

    Poor b@stards

    He finally got the message and never darkened my door again to play the game and I think I have had about 5 sentences with him since, some 30 years later.


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  • #7482
    [Deleted User]
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    ...I used to play Aliens in the Dundrum Bowl a long long time ago, before Quazar, back in 89/90, a group of us from college would bunk off and head down there on the bus, was a blast!...

    My spiritual arcade home. That was the arcade where I cut my teeth on street fighter and mortal kombat from 1991-93, although I was only doing my junior cert at that stage, so you've a few years on me. It was a great spot, there was always a buzz going on around the fighter cabs and the pool tables. I spent all my confirmation money on quasar :-)

    Shame it's gone to arcade heaven now. It was built on the same flood plane that made a mess of the Dundrum shopping centre a couple of years ago. There's a long history of businesses on that site going under (literally). It was all below ground level, and flooded in the mid 90's after a big storm and never re-opened.


  • #7483
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,614 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    megaten wrote:

    Also FEZ is coming out for PC in may. What was the verdict on this? From looking at it seems like it could have gone either way.

    Divorcing the game itself from the persona of the creator, we're left with a really interesting game that's probably not quite there but offers a lot to enjoy and appreciate. The core game itself is fun and beautifully presented, although there are times the gameplay and level design don't seem quite as rich as they could be. Your mileage will depend on how engaged you are by the truly cryptic, in-depth puzzles that open up post completion of the main story. You'll need to physically take reams of notes to figure some of them out. This does raise the concern that a lot of the puzzles are tied to old school code cracking than the gameplay mechanics themselves, but I have to admit I enjoyed my time with it (although didn't finish up a handful of the more time consuming exercises).


  • #7484
    Burkey0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭Burkey0


    Feel the fear

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf7JNzo6DZY


  • #7485
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,435 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Well this makes up for no Doom 3! :eek:

    Team Fortress 2 in the Rift
    Yes, it's true: Valve announced today that Team Fortress 2 will have a new "VR Mode" that supports the Oculus Rift, available this week!


  • #7486
    MrVestek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    I will find and KILL the makers of this buggy piece of **** game.

    No joy in Vmware either:mad:




    Ds9domwars.jpg

    I bought that when it was released. I couldn't get it to work back then either.


  • #7487
    Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iHoOK5HCHA


  • #7488
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,320 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Tower of Power cameo:

    tumblr_mjm9wmhRyP1rw70wfo1_500.png


  • #7489
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,435 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Oculus Rift dev kits have been finalized, here's what they look like. Feckin beautiful package! Great little video about half way down.

    I think they're going to be shipping soon. So I should have one to play with over the next couple of months. Going to be a must for a beers I think.

    http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/19/oculus-rift-development-kit-hands-on/


  • #7490
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    for anyone who lives in the area, there's a branch of CeX open now in Wexford town, it's listed on their website.


  • #7491
    Andrew76
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Oculus Rift dev kits have been finalized, here's what they look like. Feckin beautiful package! Great little video about half way down.

    I think they're going to be shipping soon. So I should have one to play with over the next couple of months. Going to be a must for a beers I think.

    http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/19/oculus-rift-development-kit-hands-on/

    That kit looks class, very nice!

    Didn't realise before that the goggles have a fixed resolution of 1280 x 800 - he's saying with the bigger screen the image won't look as sharp, is that right? Bit weird sending developers a temporary screen size that won't be what the consumer gets.

    Will be great to see what games get developed or optimised for it though.


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  • #7492
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    i just wanna know can you play donkey kong on it?


  • #7493
    Nerdkiller1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    Tried installing the latest Flash update on Firefox...YouTube videos won't play. I've been holding this off for this reason for the longest time, but when it said that I needed to install the latest version for security reasons, I didn't really have much choice. And yet this problem continues. I've tried everything I could, and yet I still can't get it to work. So...any help?

    Also, forgot to mention, but this seems to be a Firefox only issue. On Chrome, I have no problem watching videos.


  • #7494
    Retr0gamer
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,320 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Update Firefox?


  • #7495
    Kenjataimu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Kenjataimu


    Nerdkiller1991 wrote: »
    Tried installing the latest Flash update on Firefox...YouTube videos won't play. I've been holding this off for this reason for the longest time, but when it said that I needed to install the latest version for security reasons, I didn't really have much choice. And yet this problem continues. I've tried everything I could, and yet I still can't get it to work. So...any help?

    Also, forgot to mention, but this seems to be a Firefox only issue. On Chrome, I have no problem watching videos.

    Had something similar happen at work where firefox wouldn't read pdf's properly after the last update so I had to change the applications action in tool>options>applications.

    Cant seem to see any flash options though but I haven't looked that closely.


  • #7496
    Nerdkiller1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Update Firefox?
    I'm currently on 19.0.2. It is of no help.

    Also, I just realised something...Super Metroid's release date is the same day as my birthday...and it's my b-day today.


  • #7497
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Nerdkiller1991 wrote: »
    I'm currently on 19.0.2. It is of no help.

    Also, I just realised something...Super Metroid's release date is the same day as my birthday...and it's my b-day today.

    what age are you? :rolleyes::D


  • #7498
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056905703

    In the retro bargain thread but pop it here as well

    Normally £52 yours for £5(€6.25 delivered)

    Wives and mothers will love you forever


  • #7499
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Sparks43 wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056905703

    In the retro bargain thread but pop it here as well

    Normally £52 yours for £5(€6.25 delivered)

    Wives and mothers will love you forever

    did they not charge you the €6 delivery quoted on the site too?


  • #7500
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    the groutch wrote: »
    did they not charge you the €6 delivery quoted on the site too?

    Nope €12.50 total for 2

    And i checked my bank and 12.50 is all that will come out

    Great deal


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  • #7501
    Nerdkiller1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    the groutch wrote: »
    what age are you? :rolleyes::D
    Is it not implied in my username?

    And yes, I managed to fix the problem. All I needed to do was to update RealPlayer.


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