fire front doors

rogdodge · 09-02-2013 07:17PM #1

does anybdoy know where i can buy a Devielle fire front door for a fireplace with a grant fitted boiler, hursts in castlebar and stove centre are out of stock cant seem to find them anywhere else, boru dorus way too dear at over 600 euros couldnt justify that for what is only half an inset stove really, i presume Devielle are foreign made while Boru are irish and typical rip off, Devielle were retailing at 270 to 300 euros, or any other makes out there??

Marinjohn · 13-02-2013 10:49PM

check out Mazona on stovecentre ie ....looks equal quality to boru and a fraction of the price.

rogdodge · 14-02-2013 11:07AM

thanks seen them on line 350 euros, just thought somebody would know where to gt Devielle, prob go for the mazona at 350, boru prices are crazy, will post up my updates when i get the door, have you had a mazona fitted?

Marinjohn · 14-02-2013 03:09PM

I have ordered a Mazona,it looks better quality than the Deville...Mazona looks very similar to Boru but for 200 euro less has to be worth it!Will report on it when installed..

rogdodge · 14-02-2013 05:25PM

Cheers marinjohn, just got a quote from the stove shop fora hestia door 650!, and a henley from walshes in galway for 450, mazona it is, will have to get a fixture made up as my fireplace has the lombard arch, the stove centre does an insert for the san remo inset stove this might fit or i can adjust it, or just get a blacksmith to make an insert and i can fit it myself

Marinjohn · 14-02-2013 06:50PM

Best of luck with it,let me know how it works out,and I will do the sane...I am hoping to save a bit on fuel (2 euro carbon tax on bags coming in april ) and get more heat into my rads.Although 350 is a lot of money its not as bad as 650 or 550 for the boru,so its worth the risk!

paddy_joe · 14-02-2013 11:31PM

http://yolastoves.wordpress.com/yola-fire-door/

dont know the price

rogdodge · 16-02-2013 09:06PM

rang them think it was 700 for the yola !!! rip off republic at its best

Devrobia · 25-02-2013 03:09PM

600 euro for the Yola Firedoor with convection technology...Definitely one of the best doors on the market

Marinjohn · 27-02-2013 09:22PM

rogdodge wrote: »

Cheers marinjohn, just got a quote from the stove shop fora hestia door 650!, and a henley from walshes in galway for 450, mazona it is, will have to get a fixture made up as my fireplace has the lombard arch, the stove centre does an insert for the san remo inset stove this might fit or i can adjust it, or just get a blacksmith to make an insert and i can fit it myself

Installed it yesterday and so far I reckon they are a waste of time if you have a Grant back boiler...The problem is there is not enough air getting in even with both vents open to direct the heat under the boiler..So its like having the damper pushed in and will only barely heat thr rads up...I am sitting here now with the door open to try and heat the house up...And the heat in the room where the door is fitted is lovely and warm now....I suppose the only thing is with the door closed it will save you some fuel but so would leaving you fuel out in the coal bunker and not lighting your fire at all which would have nearly the same effect as using one of these fire doors...So I would say save your money or perhaps buy a stove which wont cost you much more than one of these doors..

rogdodge · 28-02-2013 01:36PM

im still waiting for engineering guy to make my fire place surround, id try taking off the meatal plate inside the door to let more air in see if that works?, also what fuel are you using, smokeless coal?

Marinjohn · 01-03-2013 09:16PM

rogdodge wrote: »

im still waiting for engineering guy to make my fire place surround, id try taking off the meatal plate inside the door to let more air in see if that works?, also what fuel are you using, smokeless coal?

Hi rodge i took of plate but to no avail...the only way the door works effectively is if i open the door slightly which defeats the purpose...beginning to wonder if the vent is large enough to let in enough air for a good draw...I use some coal,briquettes and mostly ovoids,I think they are a smokless fuel...did you order a mazona?? John

Imptech · 01-03-2013 09:44PM

Fitted the Yola Steel Fire Door 2 days ago with an adapter plate (fitted against a cast insert fire place had to remove the existing hood on the fire place 2 bolts) all good so far. Fitted door in less than 2 hours, lit a handy fire the first night to bake the paint and cure the fire cement, day 2 lit the fire at 7.30am at 8pm room temperature was 26 degrees ( room size 16' X 17' opens up to a kitchen 20' X 14' 23 degrees out here house well insulated), used 50% less fuel. Bought the door directly from the lads at Yola in Wexford

rogdodge · 02-03-2013 06:29PM

Marinjohn wrote: »

Installed it yesterday and so far I reckon they are a waste of time if you have a Grant back boiler...The problem is there is not enough air getting in even with both vents open to direct the heat under the boiler..So its like having the damper pushed in and will only barely heat thr rads up...I am sitting here now with the door open to try and heat the house up...And the heat in the room where the door is fitted is lovely and warm now....I suppose the only thing is with the door closed it will save you some fuel but so would leaving you fuel out in the coal bunker and not lighting your fire at all which would have nearly the same effect as using one of these fire doors...So I would say save your money or perhaps buy a stove which wont cost you much more than one of these doors..

I heard someone before say you have to play with the boiler damper plate ( on top of the boiler) i know with my open fire if i push it to the back of the fireplace it pushes the heat out to the room but doesnt heat the boiler too good, when i bring the damper out to the front it heats the boiler far better, yeah i bought a mazona 2 weeks ago now, waiting for plate to be made, so i cant say whats wrong with yours until i get mine in, maybe coz the weathers so mild? was in a house last night and they were complaining of the fire in their stanley stove giving no heat with no draw up the chimney

rogdodge · 02-03-2013 06:31PM

Imptech wrote: »

Fitted the Yola Steel Fire Door 2 days ago with an adapter plate (fitted against a cast insert fire place had to remove the existing hood on the fire place 2 bolts) all good so far. Fitted door in less than 2 hours, lit a handy fire the first night to bake the paint and cure the fire cement, day 2 lit the fire at 7.30am at 8pm room temperature was 26 degrees ( room size 16' X 17' opens up to a kitchen 20' X 14' 23 degrees out here house well insulated), used 50% less fuel. Bought the door directly from the lads at Yola in Wexford

how much for the yola and did they make the adapter plate, how much was that too?

Imptech · 02-03-2013 08:22PM

rogdodge wrote: »

how much for the yola and did they make the adapter plate, how much was that too?

550euro for the door, got them to throw in the adapter plate for that, the plate is only 3mm steel sprayed the same colour as the door, the plate is sandwiched between the door and the cast fireplace insert sealed with fire rope also supplied. I was dealing with Keith from Yola, he is on the ball.

rogdodge · 19-03-2013 09:12PM

Had the mazona lit now a good few times. fitted it myself, no problem with draft, heats the rads quicker and holds the heat a lot longer than open fire, only using bout half the fuel ( ecobrite smokeless) i have a big enough house so open fire wouldnt heat all the rads downstairs never mind upstairs before.looks good , not as pretty as a ceramic front but for 350 euros and 20 for adapter plate well worth it and overall am pleased with it

Marinjohn · 24-03-2013 07:09PM

rogdodge wrote: »

Had the mazona lit now a good few times. fitted it myself, no problem with draft, heats the rads quicker and holds the heat a lot longer than open fire, only using bout half the fuel ( ecobrite smokeless) i have a big enough house so open fire wouldnt heat all the rads downstairs never mind upstairs before.looks good , not as pretty as a ceramic front but for 350 euros and 20 for adapter plate well worth it and overall am pleased with it

Glad to hear its working well for you,mine is also but only when i open the door slightly,the vents have no effect at all.

slaney · 13-08-2013 01:55AM

so lads would you recommend getting a fire door after your experience, did you save much on fuel

RubyGirl · 10-09-2013 05:50PM

Looking to get one of these aswell, came across a company in Mayo with the best price for them. How is everyone getting on with theirs?

dbdee77 · 15-09-2013 12:13PM

Hi there have just bought a boru doras fire front, haven't fitted yet has anyone here got one fitted and how is it working out for you.Thanks

Bligh · 17-09-2013 02:43PM

Hi Guys,

I am thinking of a stove when I discovered this thread on the fire doors, money is tight and I have an existing open fire with back boiler, that does not really heat any of the rads very well. looks like mixed reviews on the fire doors and fronts so far. Will it provide better heat to the rads and will it provide better heat to the room, are you still not losing a lot of heat up the chimney. would be great to get some feedback on this.

Thanks

dbdee77 · 17-09-2013 04:22PM

Bligh wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I am thinking of a stove when I discovered this thread on the fire doors, money is tight and I have an existing open fire with back boiler, that does not really heat any of the rads very well. looks like mixed reviews on the fire doors and fronts so far. Will it provide better heat to the rads and will it provide better heat to the room, are you still not losing a lot of heat up the chimney. would be great to get some feedback on this.

Thanks

Hi Bligh, my understanding with these doors is that they cut down on fuel usage, you get better control of your open fire, they generate more heat to back boiler hence more heat to rads and they cut down on drafts going through house to feed open fire as you turn it into a closed unit. The door itself will not generate more heat into room there is a chance you slightly lose a bit of heat but then again you should get it in the rads, now the yola fire door has a convector chamber so basically takes in cold air and releases it as warm air. I have bought a boru doras to help with coal usage and better heat to boiler as getting a stove was to expensive and a lot of work at present minute but the stove would be a better option as it would be more controllable and generate more heat, hope this helps as i'm learning to, thanks D

Bligh · 17-09-2013 04:51PM

Many thanks D,

Thats very helpful, trying to discover which solution would be the most benefit and reduce costs in the run term is the main goal.

dbdee77 · 17-09-2013 05:45PM

Bligh wrote: »

Many thanks D,

Thats very helpful, trying to discover which solution would be the most benefit and reduce costs in the run term is the main goal.

I think if your looking at a long term solution you would probably be investing in a good boiler stove if you want it to heat the house but reading through some threads these doors seem to do the job, i'll be fitting mine Thursday after I get chimney cleaned so I will keep you posted on how I think it performs

Imptech · 17-09-2013 07:31PM

Fitted the yola fire door last year. I had a 16" open fire with a firebird back boiler, which had 20 rads (1 double = 2 rads) this was a pig on fuel. I was using a bag of coal and half a bag of slack and about 2 wheel barrows of timber a week. Fuel was costing about 30euro per week. Post fitting the door i have definatley seen a significant reduction in fuel, up to 50%, a significant increase in heat to the room ( room size 16'X17' which opens up to kitchen 20'X14'), haven't seen much of an increase in temp to the rads but that's probably down to the number of rads on the zone. One of the big advantages with the yola is the convection chamber which takes in the cold air at the bottom and spits out warm air out the top. Best 550 euro i spent and took only an hour to fit.

dbdee77 · 17-09-2013 08:31PM

Imptech wrote: »

Fitted the yola fire door last year. I had a 16" open fire with a firebird back boiler, which had 20 rads (1 double = 2 rads) this was a pig on fuel. I was using a bag of coal and half a bag of slack and about 2 wheel barrows of timber a week. Fuel was costing about 30euro per week. Post fitting the door i have definatley seen a significant reduction in fuel, up to 50%, a significant increase in heat to the room ( room size 16'X17' which opens up to kitchen 20'X14'), haven't seen much of an increase in temp to the rads but that's probably down to the number of rads on the zone. One of the big advantages with the yola is the convection chamber which takes in the cold air at the bottom and spits out warm air out the top. Best 550 euro i spent and took only an hour to fit.

Hi Imptech, my fire is similar to yours and your right they use some amount of fuel, at winter I keep my fire in 24/7 and I would go through practically 25kg of smokeless coal a day that's 3 buckets a day, now saying that the cottage would be at a nice temperature but i'm hoping when I fit this door it will ease up on the fuel usage and a bit more heat to back boiler. The yola door does look the job especially with the convection chamber I settled on the boru doras. Have you tried keeping the fire in all night with the yola as this is what I want to do with the boru

dbdee77 · 17-09-2013 08:36PM

rogdodge wrote: »

Had the mazona lit now a good few times. fitted it myself, no problem with draft, heats the rads quicker and holds the heat a lot longer than open fire, only using bout half the fuel ( ecobrite smokeless) i have a big enough house so open fire wouldnt heat all the rads downstairs never mind upstairs before.looks good , not as pretty as a ceramic front but for 350 euros and 20 for adapter plate well worth it and overall am pleased with it

Hi rogdodge, how are you getting on with the Mazona fire front?

Imptech · 18-09-2013 09:35PM

Hi dbdee77, never needed to keep the fire going all night as the house is fairly new and very well insulated, but there would be no bother loading it up before calling it a night. I looked at the boru and to be honest i didn't like it.

dbdee77 · 19-09-2013 08:40PM

Imptech wrote: »

Hi dbdee77, never needed to keep the fire going all night as the house is fairly new and very well insulated, but there would be no bother loading it up before calling it a night. I looked at the boru and to be honest i didn't like it.

Hi Imptech, I live in an old cottage so keeping it in all night and the backboiler comes in handy for me, I must admit I like the yola door to but I got a good deal on the boru. I fitted today and already I've noticed there's no draft going through room it surprised me the difference, so now I just have to get the fire going to test it finger's crossed it does what it's supposed to. Thanks D

Imptech · 19-09-2013 09:09PM

Best of look with that door, it will definatley make a difference in the pocket.......

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