Farming Chit Chat

Manoffeeling · 08-03-2013 08:46PM

just do it wrote: »

By the sounds of it you're studying Arts? Forgive my ignorance but what is postmodernism?

It's very confusing. John McGahern could be described as postmodern. Seamus Heaney and Pat Baker. It isn't my favourite type of literature. More into the Romantic Period.

We study film as well which is amazingly interesting.

Manoffeeling · 08-03-2013 08:49PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Fairly anti-farmer I'd say judging from the amount of farm houses they filmed them burning down

It's very interesting the way Indians have been portrayed from the early silent movies to modern film.

Manoffeeling · 08-03-2013 08:51PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

But I like the feel of a physical book, plus they look awesome when you get a bookshelf full.

That sounds really interesting. Does it mean you get to watch a lot of John Wayne movies?:D

I'm just applying for a course starting this autumn. Fingers crossed:D

I don't really like John Wayne. J'adore Clint Eastwood.

What course are you applying for?

Kovu · 08-03-2013 08:56PM

Manoffeeling wrote: »

It's very confusing. John McGahern could be described as postmodern. Seamus Heaney and Pat Baker. It isn't my favourite type of literature. More into the Romantic Period.

We study film as well which is amazingly interesting.

Are you an AI man?

All jokes aside, I'm a big Fantasy/Sci Fi fan. I love Memoirs too esp 1930-1970s. Crime thrillers e.g. Scarpetta novels, Patterson, some of King. But absolutely anything, anything (:o) to do with traditional farming in Ireland and I'm in love with it. I just finished reading 'The Irish Draught Horse; A History' and it had such an insight into the begone era.
My own father was laughing at me reading about economic roles of the workhorse!

Manoffeeling wrote: »

I don't really like John Wayne. J'adore Clint Eastwood.

What course are you applying for?

I love Spag westerns. Sundays and Ch4! I did Journalism before....now heading for the physical animal side of things...

delaval · 08-03-2013 09:14PM

Had a good day today. I got the knacker to call for 4 calves that I had been nursing, I took one look at them this am and said no more it was the best thing really glad they're gone as they were just miserable.

Bob you'll love this. One of our landlords called me yesterday offering 24 acres of grass foc, 1300 cover up where our heifers are, he could not have timed it better as we are just out of grass for them. He had one condition that I put up a permenant electric fence and he would supply the materials. As you can imagine milked early calves done and along with student we got it done and heifers into it by 3.30pm and were back to milk at 4.30 only half an hour late, so all in all a good day

delaval · 08-03-2013 09:17PM

Was contacted last evening by our local IFA chair asking would we go to Cork tomorrow to demonstrate at Coveny's office. Anyone going, we can't as guy coming to hopefully buy the last of our heifers tomorrow.

Manoffeeling · 08-03-2013 09:28PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Are you an AI man?

All jokes aside, I'm a big Fantasy/Sci Fi fan. I love Memoirs too esp 1930-1970s. Crime thrillers e.g. Scarpetta novels, Patterson, some of King. But absolutely anything, anything (:o) to do with traditional farming in Ireland and I'm in love with it. I just finished reading 'The Irish Draught Horse; A History' and it had such an insight into the begone era.
My own father was laughing at me reading about economic roles of the workhorse!

I love Spag westerns. Sundays and Ch4! I did Journalism before....now heading for the physical animal side of things...

If you ever get the chance, read Melmoth the Wanderer. It's my all time favourite but it can be hard going. One of the best Irish books ever.

hugo29 · 08-03-2013 09:42PM

just do it wrote: »

11yo car just passed its NCT

My uncle car passed nct yesterday, 2 mile out the road, brakes went, figure that one out

hugo29 · 08-03-2013 09:44PM

whelan1 wrote: »

no this one will do us a while touch wood never had much trouble with it... my day got worse, got 2 texts for high tbc and scc and when i was doing the shopping i dropped a pack of blueberries on the floorof the shop, i just said "fook It" out loud in lidl, you could see everyone moving away quite fast... i am opening a bottle of wine verrrrrrry soon

Whelan1 I am with you on the alcohol , going to fridge for beer now

hugo29 · 08-03-2013 09:48PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Are you an AI man?

All jokes aside, I'm a big Fantasy/Sci Fi fan. I love Memoirs too esp 1930-1970s. Crime thrillers e.g. Scarpetta novels, Patterson, some of King. But absolutely anything, anything (:o) to do with traditional farming in Ireland and I'm in love with it. I just finished reading 'The Irish Draught Horse; A History' and it had such an insight into the begone era.
My own father was laughing at me reading about economic roles of the workhorse!

I love Spag westerns. Sundays and Ch4! I did Journalism before....now heading for the physical animal side of things...

Kovu read Steven erikson "a tale of the Malazan" brilliant read, or "wheel of time" by Robert Jordan

hugo29 · 08-03-2013 09:51PM

Whelan1 I got your problem, just realised tonight a calf I registered yesterday as a heifer is a bull,:eek: happy days really

Anyone follow soccer, league of Ireland starts back tonight,

Kovu · 08-03-2013 09:58PM

hugo29 wrote: »

Kovu read Steven erikson "a tale of the Malazan" brilliant read, or "wheel of time" by Robert Jordan

I'll read the Erikson but I read through the series of the others. My poor pockets!:eek: Easons really overcharge. I'm glad I got online suppliers now.

Bizzum · 08-03-2013 10:15PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

I'll read the Erikson but I read through the series of the others. My poor pockets!:eek: Easons really overcharge. I'm glad I got online suppliers now.

I only ever buy from the book depository now. Prices are good, free delivery, and I find them very reliable.
Ever read any of Temple Grandin stuff? If not, do!

bob charles · 08-03-2013 10:33PM

delaval wrote: »

Bob you'll love this. One of our landlords called me yesterday offering 24 acres of grass foc, 1300 cover up where our heifers are, he could not have timed it better as we are just out of grass for them. He had one condition that I put up a permenant electric fence and he would supply the materials. As you can imagine milked early calves done and along with student we got it done and heifers into it by 3.30pm and were back to milk at 4.30 only half an hour late, so all in all a good day

You just make my day worse with that story :mad:

Rang a guy who had a cross fat 3yr old animal to sell, too late he said as he had got the knacker man to shoot him today :mad::mad:. FFS like its hard enough to get them to live beside shooting a perfect animal. whats worse is that he is looking after an estate of a guy that died recently who I often bought cattle from. At xmas he had only 3 animals left and I said I would buy them and round them up myself. No he said leave them there. he managed to lose the two other animals in the last month(probably black quarter) and now shoot the last bullock. Some stockman

I was bring home a bunch of heifers from a farm a guy leased us winter grazing. 95% of the fields I passed on the way home I could have stopped and dropped the ramp and let them off in. Loads of grass in the fields and no animals grazing it.

bob charles · 08-03-2013 10:38PM

Had cattle breaking out of an outwintered field that I have leased and goning into another grass field of mine, mains fence is down at the moment so I taught I was cute by spreading the field with slurry 8 days ago. I might as well have spread molasses on the field as every time I pass the cattle are dotted all over it grazing away. Back in there winter quarters there is good silage, beet and grain in the feeder so its not like there winter grub is bad. They do the strangest things sometimes

moy83 · 08-03-2013 10:44PM

bob charles wrote: »

Had cattle breaking out of an outwintered field that I have leased and goning into another grass field of mine, mains fence is down at the moment so I taught I was cute by spreading the field with slurry 8 days ago. I might as well have spread molasses on the field as every time I pass the cattle are dotted all over it grazing away. Back in there winter quarters there is good silage, beet and grain in the feeder so its not like there winter grub is bad. They do the strangest things sometimes

Too much time to kill and i suppose they like a bit of rough every now and then

delaval · 08-03-2013 10:45PM

Bob you would really have to wonder what kind of knobheads some people can be. we had a guy near us, things going bad alot of stock lost due to bad stockmanship. He was down to about 50 cows in this massive cubicle house, 7 or 8 really need out of there in bad shape. We let them out to a paddock as he wanted us to help. We then organised for a guy like yourself to buy rest as they were only fit to cull. You guessed, he let cows back into shed and knacker got them all over next month. Do you think he sold to the cattle men, you guessed right. That was last spring, he now has 20 left and sold no beast in last 12 mts. Some are beyond help!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The same guy would tell you how to put a tail on a cow!

pakalasa · 08-03-2013 10:46PM

49801 is having a clearance suckler sale tomorrow in Macroom mart. (9 March 2013)
Seeing that he hasn't plugged it, i'll do it for him.:D

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4629106

delaval · 08-03-2013 10:50PM

bob charles wrote: »

Had cattle breaking out of an outwintered field that I have leased and goning into another grass field of mine, mains fence is down at the moment so I taught I was cute by spreading the field with slurry 8 days ago. I might as well have spread molasses on the field as every time I pass the cattle are dotted all over it grazing away. Back in there winter quarters there is good silage, beet and grain in the feeder so its not like there winter grub is bad. They do the strangest things sometimes

You were telling us how much better silage was compared to spring grass, your cattle are telling you something or are they cull dairy stock that know the difference?

moy83 · 08-03-2013 10:52PM

pakalasa wrote: »

49801 is having a clearance suckler sale tomorrow in Macroom mart. (9 March 2013)
Seeing that he hasn't plugged it, i'll do it for him.:D

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/beefcattle/4629106

Really nice looking bull . Good luck in the sale 49801

bob charles · 08-03-2013 11:04PM

delaval wrote: »

You were telling us how much better silage was compared to spring grass, your cattle are telling you something or are they cull dairy stock that know the difference?

they are telling me they like the taste of slurry. The silage these boys are getting would be best described as bought in fibre

delaval · 08-03-2013 11:09PM

bob charles wrote: »

they are telling me they like the taste of slurry. The silage these boys are getting would be best described as bought in fibre

Lucky bags. We are selling ours at the mo couldn't face opening more bales gettin €25/bale collected.
We are also selling our second cut as it is possibly the worst silage we ever made

mf240 · 08-03-2013 11:12PM

delaval wrote: »

Lucky bags. We are selling ours at the mo couldn't face opening more bales gettin €25/bale collected.
We are also selling our second cut as it is possibly the worst silage we ever made

be better than a snowball in their bellys next april:mad:

bob charles · 08-03-2013 11:17PM

delaval wrote: »

Lucky bags. We are selling ours at the mo couldn't face opening more bales gettin €25/bale collected.
We are also selling our second cut as it is possibly the worst silage we ever made

yip the stuff is only cheap belly fill to go with the sugar beet as they are only store bulls.

delaval · 08-03-2013 11:21PM

bob charles wrote: »

yip the stuff is only cheap belly fill to go with the sugar beet as they are only store bulls.

Do you grow your own beet. We used to grow for the cows gave up 3 yrs ago, super feed:D

freedominacup · 08-03-2013 11:28PM

delaval wrote: »

Do you grow your own beet. We used to grow for the cows gave up 3 yrs ago, super feed:D

Was it because of problems with dirt? or the labour invoved in cleaning? A local contractor was trying to talk guys into growing beet as an alternative to wholecrop/maize. He was looking at buying a washer chopper rig and ensiling the chopped beet. Would it be a workable system?

Timmaay · 08-03-2013 11:33PM

delaval wrote: »

Lucky bags. We are selling ours at the mo couldn't face opening more bales gettin €25/bale collected.
We are also selling our second cut as it is possibly the worst silage we ever made

How bad is bad?? I'm selling 50 bales of 2nd cut at the min, 68dmd, 20dm, advertised for 18quid a bale, not one call

I don't want to work out how much of a loss we are making on it, but I've been telling the 'boss' all winter to sell it while we can (I knew we had wayyy too much), but he kept saying hold on to it incase of a late spring (very very late spring!)

bob charles · 08-03-2013 11:35PM

delaval wrote: »

Do you grow your own beet. We used to grow for the cows gave up 3 yrs ago, super feed:D

grow my own as there is "natin to touch beet" for getting cheap energy into animals. Even on a bad year like last year it is still cropping well given the conditions.

freedominacup wrote: »

Was it because of problems with dirt? or the labour invoved in cleaning? A local contractor was trying to talk guys into growing beet as an alternative to wholecrop/maize. He was looking at buying a washer chopper rig and ensiling the chopped beet. Would it be a workable system?

For cows you would have to wash, I usually wash ours but will be dry cleaning this year as most only lifted in the last 2 weeks and 8 ac still to lift. The work with beet begins when it comes into the yard. will pit most of it and use during the summer.

Timmaay · 08-03-2013 11:38PM

Freedom, I heard of some shocking bad yields of beet this year, (like 50t when normally 300t), most maize crops weren't hit as bad as that around here, my neighbour got 12 or 13t/acre of a crop of maize this year despite the rain (by the sea), so I'm thinking of some maize this year to help the fat and proteins from the winter ladies.

Tipp Man · 09-03-2013 12:22AM

bob charles wrote: »

grow my own as there is "natin to touch beet" for getting cheap energy into animals. Even on a bad year like last year it is still cropping well given the conditions.

For cows you would have to wash, I usually wash ours but will be dry cleaning this year as most only lifted in the last 2 weeks and 8 ac still to lift. The work with beet begins when it comes into the yard. will pit most of it and use during the summer.

Bob whats your technique for pitting the beet? Washed and chopped i assume? With straw layers?

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