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Why are the Irish in Oz not...

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  • #62
    IM0
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    how do you now they arent anyway?


  • #63
    ardinn
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    IM0 wrote: »
    how do you now they arent anyway?

    I dont - I just know of a few cases where it isnt, and know of none where it is!
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  • #64
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    ardinn wrote: »

    Yes money home to their own families - Sorry for the confusion!

    The eastern europians sent money home because they were sick of eating swans.

    I have a lot of polish friends and none of them send money home or eat swans anymore.


  • #65
    Dwork
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    Seachmall wrote: »
    Why do you think we're entitled to a cut of their wage?
    Pretty much every other nationalitys emigrants struggle to send home money every week. I'v a couple of lads working for me who send home half their wages every week to their parents.

    Here, it seems acceptable for gangling 22 year olds to begrudge handing over €50 a week to their parents as "rent" for staying at home. I've a nephew who has to be wrestled to the floor and poked with sharp things every friday to hand up the piddly €50 his ma asks for as his contribution for living under their roof, eating all his meals and getting his washing done. We've a right bunch of mangy me-fein feckers coming up in this country.


  • #66
    oppenheimer1
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    I'm sure people still do send money home like they always did. I would fully expect a mother or father to send money home to the parent left behind for the children.

    If you don't have anyone to send money home to why would you send it? Stick it in an envelope and just put Ireland on the front of it??


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  • #67
    Electric Sheep
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    I emigrated 30 years ago. For the first 20 years or so, I helped out my family with money. Gave one sister 20,000 for the downpayment on a house. I have never recieved any thanks or even acknowledgement for the help. I do hear from her and her children when I am coming to Ireland for a visit - I hear from them with a list of all the things they want me to bring them.

    Two years ago I stopped bringing them the things on their lists. I've worked hard all my life, and I will no longer hand my hard earned money over to my ungrateful entitlement minded sister and her kids.


  • #68
    AnonoBoy
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    Oh yes, every immigrant in this country just gets their wages at the end of the week, shoves it into an envelope and sends it straight home.

    That's what they all do aright. There's no selfish foreigners who just keep the money they earned for themselves.

    :rolleyes:


  • #69
    3ndahalfof6
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    I fell upside down, I tought I was in Australia so I kept my hands in me pockets, I also tought I was on venus, strange but true, never fall more than twee feet wid your hands in your pockets, the aussie dollar will become very strong, so hold on to it, in the next 2-3 years it will come close to par.


  • #70
    Dionysius2
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    The content of this thread reflects quite accurately imo the transition which has taken place in our nation. Traditionally and through the ages, the Irish who went abroad were penniless and they were leaving behind families and extended families who were also penniless. Invariably these emigrants did send money home or at least a high proportion of them did and they did it in good old greenback dollars, The banks have acknowledged that over time.

    Nowadays, the emigrant Irish are well educated and highly skilled and in a sense out to make their fortune with less backward glances than haunted those who stumbled along those trails in days of yore. The brashness of all youth taunts them to quip : "I owe nothing to anyone....I'm gonna make some money....sow some wild oats....settle down when I'm ready.....stay in touch with the folks .....but mainly it's about me from here on.....sorry bud if you see it differently'.

    The well recognised and ever present begrudgery feeds into that too..." oh 'tis well for ya wid yer big money but those of us who stayed behind had no such opportunities".

    One thing is for certain though. There is a different Ireland taking shape now right under our feet and many of the sacred cows (and some of them were very sacred) will be swept away forever. It will be very interesting to see the shape of things to come.


  • #71
    Electric Sheep
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    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    The content of this thread reflects quite accurately imo the transition which has taken place in our nation. Traditionally and through the ages, the Irish who went abroad were penniless and they were leaving behind families and extended families who were also penniless. Invariably these emigrants did send money home or at least a high proportion of them did and they did it in good old greenback dollars, The banks have acknowledged that over time.

    Nowadays, the emigrant Irish are well educated and highly skilled and in a sense out to make their fortune with less backward glances than haunted those who stumbled along those trails in days of yore. The brashness of all youth taunts them to quip : "I owe nothing to anyone....I'm gonna make some money....sow some wild oats....settle down when I'm ready.....stay in touch with the folks .....but mainly it's about me from here on.....sorry bud if you see it differently'.

    The well recognised and ever present begrudgery feeds into that too..." oh 'tis well for ya wid yer big money but those of us who stayed behind had no such opportunities".

    One thing is for certain though. There is a different Ireland taking shape now right under our feet and many of the sacred cows (and some of them were very sacred) will be swept away forever. It will be very interesting to see the shape of things to come.

    It is the attitude of entitlement from the ones at home that sickens me - none of them ever did anything for me, but they think I owe them and their kids money, iPads, laptops etc. While my neices spend more on their hairdos than I spend on myself in a year.


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  • #72
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    Electric Sheep wrote: »

    It is the attitude of entitlement from the ones at home that sickens me - none of them ever did anything for me, but they think I owe them and their kids money, iPads, laptops etc. While my neices spend more on their hairdos than I spend on myself in a year.

    I wouldn't put up with that shìt, if they pìss you off so much, why don't you call them on it and tell them to pìss off?


  • #73
    3ndahalfof6
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    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    The content of this thread reflects quite accurately imo the transition which has taken place in our nation. Traditionally and through the ages, the Irish who went abroad were penniless and they were leaving behind families and extended families who were also penniless. Invariably these emigrants did send money home or at least a high proportion of them did and they did it in good old greenback dollars, The banks have acknowledged that over time.

    Nowadays, the emigrant Irish are well educated and highly skilled and in a sense out to make their fortune with less backward glances than haunted those who stumbled along those trails in days of yore. The brashness of all youth taunts them to quip : "I owe nothing to anyone....I'm gonna make some money....sow some wild oats....settle down when I'm ready.....stay in touch with the folks .....but mainly it's about me from here on.....sorry bud if you see it differently'.

    The well recognised and ever present begrudgery feeds into that too..." oh 'tis well for ya wid yer big money but those of us who stayed behind had no such opportunities".

    One thing is for certain though. There is a different Ireland taking shape now right under our feet and many of the sacred cows (and some of them were very sacred) will be swept away forever. It will be very interesting to see the shape of things to come.

    EH, wrong, the Irish today are just living it large, chancing their arms, not educated but not afraid, the people who left these shores many years ago were very well educated and got to the position of power,

    the bunch leaving today or yesteryear, do it for the crack, the old Irish were the brains who helped to advance the not so well communities (countries), today most of them are true pissss heads.


  • #74
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    3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

    EH, wrong, the Irish today are just living it large, chancing their arms, not educated but not afraid, the people who left these shores many years ago were very well educated and got to the position of power,

    the bunch leaving today or yesteryear, do it for the crack, the old Irish were the brains who helped to advance the not so well communities (countries), today most of them are true pissss heads.

    Quite right just look at the CEO of Quantas, he left Tallaght in the 1980's and went to Oz. Todays emigrants are something different, spoiled brats that go on the pįss until their homeless.

    I love that tar brush, I think I got them all there...


  • #75
    Madam_X
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    ardinn wrote: »
    Sending money back home???
    I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.
    The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

    EDIT: Money being sent home as in to their own families - not the state! I was wondering why so many were against it!
    But why are you so sure none of them do? Including those who go on the piss.
    DeltaWhite wrote: »
    Have to say I have a brother in oz who took out a huge loan before he went which he was meant to pay back and was only supposed to stay a year.... 2 years later my parents are still paying the loan for him as my dad went guarantor and surprise surprise he hasn't sent a fcking cent back to us.... So yeah OP I agree with your thread...
    Well your brother's situation isn't applicable to every Irish person gone to Australia to work.
    Electric Sheep wrote: »
    It is the attitude of entitlement from the ones at home that sickens me - none of them ever did anything for me, but they think I owe them and their kids money, iPads, laptops etc.
    Who at home? Not saying you should send back money, but surely there are people at home who have done things for you?
    While my neices spend more on their hairdos than I spend on myself in a year.
    Probably not true.


  • #76
    flanders1979
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    Time to get down to the St Vincent de Paul or there will be no sheeps head for Christmas dinner.


  • #77
    Electric Sheep
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    Madam_X wrote: »
    Who at home? Not saying you should send back money, but surely there are people at home who have done things for you?

    Probably not true.

    No, there are not. It has always been a one way process - my siblings and nieces with their hands out, "needing" expensive electronics, money for holidays, money for downpayments, money for cars. A couple of years ago I put my foot down and the gravy train stopped. I think I hit my limit when one of my nieces wanted me to give her money to take a year off to go to India. I've never had a month off in my life, let alone a year off.


  • #78
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    Electric Sheep wrote: »

    No, there are not. It has always been a one way process - my siblings and nieces with their hands out, "needing" expensive electronics, money for holidays, money for downpayments, money for cars. A couple of years ago I put my foot down and the gravy train stopped. I think I hit my limit when one of my nieces wanted me to give her money to take a year off to go to India. I've never had a month off in my life, let alone a year off.

    I'd tell them to fúck off.


  • #79
    3ndahalfof6
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    Madam_X wrote: »
    Who at home? Not saying you should send back money, but surely there are people at home who have done things for you?

    Probably not true.

    I will stand and throw stones of fire, it is in me nature. I am a shiit stirer, never let it be said I give the option of, you could be right, for some reason M you decide to take the side of fight,

    I do think you are a good person, but why the negative at every stop?

    LOVE YOU.


  • #80
    HondaSami
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    Electric Sheep wrote: »
    No, there are not. It has always been a one way process - my siblings and nieces with their hands out, "needing" expensive electronics, money for holidays, money for downpayments, money for cars. A couple of years ago I put my foot down and the gravy train stopped. I think I hit my limit when one of my nieces wanted me to give her money to take a year off to go to India. I've never had a month off in my life, let alone a year off.

    You must be very wealthy or do they think you are?
    I believe in helping out if i can but not to the point of being made a fool off.


  • #81
    Electric Sheep
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    HondaSami wrote: »
    You must be very wealthy or do they think you are?
    I believe in helping out if i can but not to the point of being made a fool off.

    The attitude is that I don't have kids, so I owe their kids.


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  • #82
    HondaSami
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    Electric Sheep wrote: »
    The attitude is that I don't have kids, so I owe their kids.

    Ya that can be annoying, don't blame you for cutting it out.


  • #83
    3ndahalfof6
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    HondaSami wrote: »
    You must be very wealthy or do they think you are?
    I believe in helping out if i can but not to the point of being made a fool off.

    To be made a fool of most times is you letting someone think they are not the fool, to be made a fool of is sometimes the true device of making them be the fool, I can fly.


  • #84
    MadsL
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    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I think they get voting rights and so forth for this, Irish emmigrants get nothing.

    "Taxation without representation is tyranny" remember.


  • #85
    Madam_X
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    Smoking a big fat one 3ndahalf? :pac:


  • #86
    3ndahalfof6
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    Madam_X wrote: »
    Smoking a big fat one 3ndahalf? :pac:

    You nose me well ahhrite.:)


  • #87
    mandrake04
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    There seems to be some sort of myth that every Irish person in Australia is earning big bucks. :rolleyes:

    http://www.irishecho.com.au/2013/02/21/young-irish-lining-up-for-free-meal-at-soup-kitchen/23538


  • #88
    HondaSami
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    3ndahalfof6 wrote: »
    To be made a fool of most times is you letting someone think they are not the fool, to be made a fool of is sometimes the true device of making them be the fool, I can fly.

    who is the fool here? :p


  • #89
    3ndahalfof6
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    HondaSami wrote: »
    who is the fool here? :p

    The person who asked the question, who is the fool here, never look outside the box, you might get flamuxed.


  • #90
    FewFew
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    Sure there are plenty of charities people could give to if they were feeling grateful to the aul sod, for the education and all that lark.

    Don't think it would cross people's minds though, most people I know are either pursuing careers with a bitter "I had no choice" mode or are off partying in a "it's not my problem, I'll be back when it's over" style. No one I know seems to have any "proud to be Irish" vibe past Paddy's Day and drunken Oirishness.

    Though those of us remaining aren't much better. I probably shouldn't post, with my dislike of people in general :pac:


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  • #91
    road_high
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    DeltaWhite wrote: »
    Have to say I have a brother in oz who took out a huge loan before he went which he was meant to pay back and was only supposed to stay a year.... 2 years later my parents are still paying the loan for him as my dad went guarantor and surprise surprise he hasn't sent a fcking cent back to us.... So yeah OP I agree with your thread...

    Sorry to be blunt but your folks are fooking Mugs!!!!


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