Why are the Irish in Oz not...

ardinn

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €60m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

EDIT: Money being sent home as in to their own families - not the state! I was wondering why so many were against it!

Seachmall

Why do you think we're entitled to a cut of their wage?

€100 home to who exactly?

crockholm

their currency doesnt work here

Galwayguy35

ardinn wrote: »

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €6m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

It's their money, which in many cases they worked hard for so why should they send it back?

DrumSteve

Im assuming you have facts and figures to back this assessment up and its not just baseless ranting?

clairefontaine

Watch. They will tax the emmigrants next.

SunnyDub1

I'm going to Oz in Sept for a year, and tbh I won't be sending any money home...

Send money home to who and for what exactly?

Nodin

ardinn wrote: »

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

Why don't you write to one and ask them for a few bob. Say its for the babby.

MadsL

Have you seen the price of a beer in Perth! :eek:

Thatnastyboy

Ok so,


ALL of the eastern European citizens who came work here sent home loads and loads of money.

NONE of the emigrant Irish save money or send home money.

Who would you like them to send the money to?

Happydude
1 happy drive
Happy avenue
Co.Happy?

ardinn

ardinn wrote: »

Im not sure of the figures,

DrumSteve wrote: »

Im assuming you have facts and figures to back this assessment up and its not just baseless ranting?

No - Just ranting - But this was explained!!!

Creamy Goodness

such an upside down view on our debt problem.

ldxo15wus6fpgm

If I went over to Australia and managed to get a decent job, I'd be living it up while I could, not saving it for when I get back to Ireland!

MadsL

clairefontaine wrote: »

Watch. They will tax the emmigrants next.

The US already do. There's precedent.

Fromthetrees

Because it isn't the famine???

super_furry

Hard to send it home when you drink it all.

Mr Benevolent

ardinn wrote: »

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €6m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

Because we're not THAT poor. Most employed people are struggling because of a combination of large mortgages and health insurance plus an addiction to LED TVs and expensive phones. And the misconception that Tesco is the cheapest place to buy food.

DrumSteve

ardinn wrote: »

No - Just ranting - But this was explained!!!

Okay, well then there is no need to take this topic seriously then.

I bid you goodday.

DrumSteve

MadsL wrote: »

The US already do. There's precedent.

I think they get voting rights and so forth for this, Irish emmigrants get nothing.

Dj Stiggie

What business is it of yours what they do with their money? I live abroad and my mam wouldn't want me to send money home.

Also,

ardinn wrote: »

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €6m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

Genius maths there chief.

DeltaWhite

Have to say I have a brother in oz who took out a huge loan before he went which he was meant to pay back and was only supposed to stay a year.... 2 years later my parents are still paying the loan for him as my dad went guarantor and surprise surprise he hasn't sent a fcking cent back to us.... So yeah OP I agree with your thread...

krudler

ardinn wrote: »

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €6m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

Why should people whose futures were sold out to pay for other people's mistakes and debt be obliged to send money back here? The reason they're over there is there's fcuk all work here in the first place.

Irishcrx

There's a big differance in what other nationalities do when they come here to work and what we do when we go abroad in this day and age. When the polish , indians , romanians etc they came here with the sole reason to find work andsend money back home because...

A. Their was no well paying jobs in their country , a €200 cleaners pay packet over here would go a long long way in poland as the cost of living is a lot less. Most would have had large families with no money who were relying on this , they wouldn't be over here to live the high life, they would save the rest and be able to buy a house back home when they were finished.

B. We had a lot of work at the time available.

The reason we go abroad and don't do this is because...

A. Our cost of living is very high and the pay for most jobs in Australia/Canada isn't huge compared to here. Of course this is refering to general bar work etc
B. We aren't as bad off as we sometimes make out, certainly not on the scale of what some of the imigrants coming here were.
C. We ARE going over there to go on the rip, live it up etc and not solely to work and send money home.

It's a common thing these days , 'Oh there's no work in Ireland' I better go abroad work in a bar and get pissed for a few years...I'd be willing to bet if you stayed here and looked hard enough for a job you'd find a better one than picking apples in a vineyard half the world away.

Duggy747

Yea, if I were to live and work abroad I would in my hole send money back here.

That's like a tax for being Irish :pac:

Where To

As long as they keep blowing their wages, no matter what country they are in, the global economy will tick along nicely.

NegativeCreep

I've seen dumb threads in my time but my god this is actually ridiculous. It's made worse by the fact that I'm pretty sure OP is completely serious!!

I'm off to gouge out my mind's eye.

Where To

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I've seen dumb threads in my time but my god this is actually ridiculous. It's made worse by the fact that I'm pretty sure OP is completely serious!!

I'm off to gouge out my mind's eye.

It's not that ridiculous, don't forget yhat large swathes of this country were built almost solely on repatriated money, and still are today.

ardinn

Im not sayin to send it home to randomers ffs, But I know alot of people in oz who have families here really struggling to keep things going, yet their sons/daughters are away living it up - the attitude is they have gone and they are doing well and good look to them. I just think some families here could do with some help and I cant see why people dont help out. I'm sure many do, but I havnt seen it!

ardinn

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I've seen dumb threads in my time but my god this is actually ridiculous. It's made worse by the fact that I'm pretty sure OP is completely serious!!

I'm off to gouge out my mind's eye.

Dont be such a negative cre....

Never mind!

gobnaitolunacy

Because it's not the 1950's anymore.

Melion

My best mate is in Oz working all the hours possible to pay his mortgage, he has helped his sister out when she needed a bit of money last year, he has helped me out with a bit of money a few weeks ago. He is 30 this year and will have his mortage paid off by this time next year. Who should he send money to and why?

ardinn

Melion wrote: »

My best mate is in Oz working all the hours possible to pay his mortgage, he has helped his sister out when she needed a bit of money last year, he has helped me out with a bit of money a few weeks ago. He is 30 this year and will have his mortage paid off by this time next year. Who should he send money to and why?

Well he sent you and his sister money!!

Eh?? I dont see your point - this is exactly what I mean!

NegativeCreep

Where To wrote: »

It's not that ridiculous, don't forget yhat large swathes of this country were built almost solely on repatriated money, and still are today.

In fairness, it's ridiculous. If I went off to Australia, why the hell would I send my money back to Ireland?

Electric Sheep

ardinn wrote: »

Well he sent you and his sister money!!

Eh?? I dont see your point - this is exactly what I mean!

Funny how nothing changes over 100 years - the ones sitting on their holes at home expecting money to be sent to them for free by the ones who get up off their arse, emigrate and work hard.

Were you sending money to your relatives in America and Australia during the Celtic Bubble?

Thomas_I

ardinn wrote: »

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €60m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

They were not supporting their country, they were supporting their families and that´s a big difference. What you´re suggesting is some alimentation of the State as the Americans do by extra taxation for US Citizens working abroad.

Boombastic

To anyone in OZ, please send your money home. Here is the address


Boombastic
1 Boombastic road
Boombastic Town

IRELAND <<<Just get it to Ireland, They'll know what to do with it there :pac:

HondaSami

ardinn wrote: »

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €60m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

I'm not sure what you mean here.

Are you saying family member should send money home to their families so they can spend more here creating revenue for the country?
or you suggesting people give money to the government ? because that would be a mad idea.

giant_midget

Jasus sure if they "sent money back" what would the owner of the Tea Gardens do?...poor man would have to close the place! :pac:

http://www.teagardenshotel.com.au/gallery

SunnyDub1

Take my situation for example.

after spending 3 years studying,I am lucky enough to have full time employment here, not the ideal job for what i spent 3 years studying for but it pays.

Decided that I am gonna go to Oz in sept for the year, for travel, experience, something different and hopefully get some work in the sector I am qualified for.
while both my parents are also lucky to be in full time employment and are able to pay their who are you suggesting I send my future earned cash back here to?

Sorry but if some people of Ireland can't afford to pay their way and are struggling maybe they should get on a plane and find work. Not expect others to go work aboard and send it home to them

HondaSami

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

to?

Sorry but if some people of Ireland can't afford to pay their way and are struggling maybe they should get on a plane and find work. Not expect others to go work aboard and send it home to them

Not everyone can travel, some families have young children, children in school, it's not as easy for a family to emigrate.
It's not unusual for families to help each other out, I always sent money to my parents when I knew they needed it and my brothers and sisters still help each other out if needed.

Irishcrx

New taxes for 2014.

*Postal tax
*Transfer tax
*Immigration tax
*Reverse immigration tax
*Tax tax

SunnyDub1

HondaSami wrote: »

Not everyone can travel, some families have young children, children in school, it's not as easy for a family to emigrate.
It's not unusual for families to help each other out, I always sent money to my parents when I knew they needed it and my brothers and sisters still help each other out if needed.

That's understandable but I think it's unfair for anyone to expect the people who are fortunate enough to travel and work to send money back home here.

Don't get me wrong, if I had family that needed help financially I'd happily help. But I'm not traveling across the world to earn money for a country I no longer live in.

padd b1975

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Because it's not the 1950's anymore.

It was going on a lot more recent than the 1950s. My Dad worked away in the 80's and early 90's, without the money he worked hard for, and the basic life he lived, we, as a family would have been in serious trouble.

HondaSami

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

That's understandable but I think it's unfair for anyone to expect the people who are fortunate enough to travel and work to send money back home here.

Don't get me wrong, if I had family that needed help financially I'd happily help. But I'm not traveling across the world to earn money for a country I no longer live in.

I'm not sure what the OP actually means tbh, if he is saying give money to the country then that's silly.

kylith

It'd never get here, what with An Post regularly checking envelopes for cash.

Where To

padd b1975 wrote: »

It was going on a lot more recent than the 1950s. My Dad worked away in the 80's and early 90's, without the money he worked hard for, and the basic life he lived, we, as a family would have been in serious trouble.

Still happening today padd, I'm very grateful to the 'queen's head' for keeping me in the lifestyle I am accustomed to.

Kevhog1988

padd b1975 wrote: »

It was going on a lot more recent than the 1950s. My Dad worked away in the 80's and early 90's, without the money he worked hard for, and the basic life he lived, we, as a family would have been in serious trouble.

I work away at the moment and tbh struggle to survive.... See my son (lives in ireland) for 12 hours every two weeks with a average cost of 300 per visit home to see him (including travelling to and from airport on both sides) If i only did a flat week each week i would actually be minus 160 at the end of the month. However my time outside of them 24 hours per month is dedicated almost entirely to work, doing overtime, cash in hand bit of buying and selling cars etc. As soon as im home my dads car is filled to the brim with diesel (dads been out of work a year for the first time since he was 13 years old) and my little sister gets a few quid towards college costs depending on what i have spare. Im in the same situation as at least 5/6 people i know whos every penny goes to supporting there children and or extended family.

P_1

Why should they send money home?

old hippy

Hasn't dear old Ireland taken enough out of those of us who left?

padd b1975

theemigrant wrote: »

I work away at the moment and tbh struggle to survive.... See my son (lives in ireland) for 12 hours every two weeks with a average cost of 300 per visit home to see him (including travelling to and from airport on both sides) If i only did a flat week each week i would actually be minus 160 at the end of the month. However my time outside of them 24 hours per month is dedicated almost entirely to work, doing overtime, cash in hand bit of buying and selling cars etc. As soon as im home my dads car is filled to the brim with diesel (dads been out of work a year for the first time since he was 13 years old) and my little sister gets a few quid towards college costs depending on what i have spare. Im in the same situation as at least 5/6 people i know whos every penny goes to supporting there children and or extended family.

Yeah I understand how it can be tough to emigrate but still struggle financially.

At least back in the 80's there was good money to be made in England.

Channel tunnel and Canary Wharf to name just two well paying projects.

My Dad was far from alone in the sacrifice he made back then, basically working and sleeping in a sh1tty bedsit or onsite caravan.

No cheap flights back then either.

Basically we saw him at Christmas and summer, maybe at Easter.